Does anybody remmeber the Wild Cowboys era in Washington Heights?

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Carlito

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Oct 6, 2008
 
I read both The Wild Cowboys and Gangbusters book; I was a child at the time, so i don't remmeber that era. Was it as bad as the book made it seem? Does anyone remmember them? if so, tell your story and what ya'll remmeber.
RCB 168

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Nov 16, 2008
 

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It was as bad as the book describes. I went to school with Nelson. I hung out with most of the cowboys at the drag races we had in thise days in the henry hudson highway. They were vicious if you stole from them or tried to sell in their turf, but other than that they were just like any of us. But to sell alot of books they had to stretch the truth a bit.
bxjim

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Jan 9, 2009
 

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they were very much as you read about
JAO

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Feb 8, 2009
 

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I GREW UP IN THE HEIGHTS AND I KNEW ALL OF THEM!!!!!! THE BOOK IS RIGHT ON POINT WITH THE WAY THINGS WERE BACK THEN!
Kellz

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well if u wasnt living by dose times dan u lucky cuz most ppl dat went thru dat era either died or in jail dose r called da bloody come up era n da wild cowboys were jus like any other gang but wat made dem diffrent is da murders dey commited n why dey commited dem n how vicious n wild dey were ask ya parents or uncles bout wen dominicans ruled da city in da 80's n 90's lol
Was height

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Feb 28, 2009
 
Back then thier was respect we were one DR, but know we have DR killing DR for no resaon at all.Back them Thier were many of us who had balls.Back then you had a lot want be gansta, but did not have balls.These want to be gansta would voilated street LAws)If you were in the drug game you had to know that thier was two way out jail or death.I can proudly say that thier were many people who i grew up and attended GW with that went on to make us DR proud in a postive way.I chose the right path, and i put my ball in the direction. I can proudly say that I went from a NYC CO, Po and college teacher. i did lose realtives on way.So you out thier learn from this Gang and go and make Dr proud in the postive way....for all our soldiers who passed away in our war may thier all RIP but we must learn from thier mistake.We also have extremely hard working people who work 24 /7 those are the people that i admire in our commnity. God bless
Dawn

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Mar 26, 2009
 
Yes! I remenber that Era I actually live 185st between St. Nic. and Wads. Yes, They were very well organized, and had all of Washington Heights on lock. I don't think that they have amped anything up, although I have yet to read the book.
Cypress Boy

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Apr 8, 2009
 
I've live on Cypress (South Bronx) all my life and it has always been violent. The wildcowboys was just another era. The only thing different about this era was that they allowed outsiders (Nelson, Lenny, etc.) to have too much power. I grew up with the guys on cypress (Stanley, Linwood, etc.)and from what I've read in the book (The Wildcowbys) there's a whole lot more to the those stories. As far as Washington Heights, I didn't know much about the area but I did get to know the guys (Fat Danny, Flaco etc.) who hung out on my block and yes things got out of control.
Boosta kat 186st audubon

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Apr 22, 2009
 
Platano was crazy that's all that cut took a toe on him he was missing 2 my knowledge 14 screws on that big head of him. Ps: lo mio es pureeeeeeee!
Boosta kat 186st audubon

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Apr 22, 2009
 
Frankee gus know that was 1 crazy nuckle head. They use 2 call him piggi bank nose that's how much money went up that nose. Him and cubita all day in a black Lincoln cubita got lucky he got caught on time couple of more weeks In the streets his nose would had falling off. Sniffing ounces daily of garbage I mean 10 dollars a gram u tell me babypowder.
BIG T

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Apr 29, 2009
 

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your right cypress has always been violent and many people tryed to get the cowboys out of cypress like pistol pete but they could not, there was always a puerto rican vs dominican thing going on in cypress cause for one the dominicans were getting the money that rightfully belonged to the hustlers from cypress and they were also getting the pussy,
so that brung alot of hate from the hoods ganstas even though there was a few puerto ricans and blacks down with the cowboys
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I've live on Cypress (South Bronx) all my life and it has always been violent. The wildcowboys was just another era. The only thing different about this era was that they allowed outsiders (Nelson, Lenny, etc.) to have too much power. I grew up with the guys on cypress (Stanley, Linwood, etc.)and from what I've read in the book (The Wildcowbys) there's a whole lot more to the those stories. As far as Washington Heights, I didn't know much about the area but I did get to know the guys (Fat Danny, Flaco etc.) who hung out on my block and yes things got out of control.
Jay 171

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I grew up on the same block that Lenny, Nelson, Fat Danny, Pasqualito and them grew up on and went to G Dubs (George Washington HS) with most of them. I personally think they were worst than even the book made them out to be. They were ruthless. At the time to even deal drugs in the Heights you had to a real gangster and they were feared and respected by everyone, friends and foes alike. Even before Yayo introduced them to the crack business they were in a gang called the Playboys and they were shooting rival gang (the Ballbusters) members, I remember Lenny was known as Hitman Len in those early days. When Yayo had to flee to the Dominican Republic a power struggle ensued between his workers and Lenny and Nelson ruthlessly took control of the best locations. That's before the media named it crack I remember them referring to it as "based balls".

Funny story, I remember the day Nelson got kicked out of G Dubs. He was in the bathroom in the cafeteria and someone had just him some money to settle their "account" when the dean/track coach Mr. Budihas (sic) walked in on them and took away a small notebook that Nelson used as a ledger to keep his business in order. As Mr. Budihas, who was a former Green Beret (and very intimidating) was walking away Nelson jumped him from behind and they started fighting. Mr.Budihas' past training served him well as he finally took Nelson down before the school's cop came over and cuffed him. I think that's the only fight Nelson lost and the end of his high school education.

I could go on and on but to answer your question, I read the book and it's pretty factual but that's only what the cops were able to prove, they were actually much worst.
OST-163rd

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Jun 12, 2009
 
Wow, brings back memories, all the talk of the playboys and ballbusters. I remember anytime you went down by the 130s kids on the block would ask you what block you were from. If you said anything with a 6 (163, 162, etc, etc) they would call you a playboy and try to jump you. Same thing uptown, if you came from the 130s playboys would assume you were a ballbuster. Funtimes. Anyone remember the Highbridge Mob, Wild Wild Wild Boys, Baby Playboys?
Jay 171

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#16
Jun 13, 2009
 
I grew up on 171 between St. Nick & Audubon too! I use to work in the Pharmacy on the corner. Big T, I'm sure I know you.
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your right about everything you said.
going back to the basedball days
I also grew up on 171 between audobon and st nick
and remember the playboy days well
nelson and lenny were always nice with there hands
and good athlets too
before crack it was called jumbos
and it was crazy in those days every block had some crazy dudes and you had to have balls if you were going to make money in the bronx cause those boris were ruthless
I am lucky to be out free and alive
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GEE

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Jun 16, 2009
 
I also read the book and remember hanging out with Lenny, Nelson, And even with Raul Vargas who used to work for El Feo on Amsterdam Ave BET 168 and 169. the book really hit home for me, but the part that confused me the most was when they mentioned Clint from 173rd st I knew his little brother David we used to fly birds together on the roof but I n the book they mention that clint was an informant for the NYPD that was disturbing because I always thought he was a stand up guy he drove that Ferrari and he was always in the game.
chicago

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#18
Jun 18, 2009
 
callen la boca esos tiempo eran los mejores talvez mucho de ustdes nos conosemos yo era de la 167 yo loconosia a todos pero yo trabaja en ese tiempo con el grupo de jose alia el feo ,chocolate,carlo,vive bien,polanco,gringo,y muchos mas yo su pe muchas historias en es libro son verdas pero no dice el respeto hacia el feo y freddy,vargas
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Jun 18, 2009
 
callen la boca esos tiempo eran los mejores talvez mucho de ustdes nos conosemos yo era de la 167 yo loconosia a todos pero yo trabaja en ese tiempo con el grupo de jose alia el feo ,chocolate,carlo,vive bien,polanco,gringo,y muchos mas yo su pe muchas historias en es libro son verdas pero no dice el respeto hacia el feo y freddy,vargas y despue de ellos viniero bobo,fransis ,black randy ,morenito,muneco
Tee171

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I could say this, I lived in the same building as one of them and across the street from Lenny and Nelson I grew up with them, We were all about stoopball, stickball and football and the occasional roundup beating up.(Form of tag)If you were to meet these guys when we were growing up, you would never think they were capable of such things, but so is life. As far as the books lots of truth and a little bit of creativity from the he said she said crowd.
In closing, from time to time i still pass through my old block and look up at our windows and remember my youth with them, they were/are a part of my life, not part of their fate.
jonn doe

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#21
Jun 30, 2009
 
there is still some plaboys out there. some are dead,and I know one that made more then 5 millons in the game.OSB FOR LIFE
BIG T

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#25
Jul 5, 2009
 
As one of hip-hop's most successful music video directors, Jessy Terrero was a natural fit to helm MGM's 2004 black urban comedy "Soul Plane" for his feature directorial debut. "Given the material and 'Soul Plane' being so specific and targeted to a market that I understood, it gave me a little bit more control because it's something they trusted that I knew -- it was so hip-hop driven," says Terrero, whose rap video credits include 50 Cent and Fat Joe. But as a Dominican-American who grew up in a Spanish-speaking home in the South Bronx, Terrero insists he is eager to helm a Latino-driven project. He optioned Robert Jackall's book "Wild Cowboys," a "Scarface"-esque tale set in Washington Heights. Terrero is currently in negotiations to direct the adaptation for a major studio's specialty division. "Somebody has to start (to make movies) for the urban Latino, and I feel like I'm one of the few guys who can speak to that market," Terrero says. "I'm speaking for every Latin American kid who was born in this country who listens to hip-hop (and dances) salsa, merengue all at the same time. That part of our culture hasn't really been represented.... I'm trying to make sure that every movie I do from now on really taps into that."

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