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Music In Worship

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Mar 13, 2008
 
"What Type of Music Has God Authorized?"

http://www.thywordistruth.com/questions/qa007 ...

The lesson above is a very good one. It will also touch on generic and specific command. WE must understand this principle.

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Apr 10, 2008
 
"What About Mechanical Instruments Of Music In Christian Worship?"

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Check this out.

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Apr 10, 2008
 
"Responding To Critics On The Instrumental Music Issue"

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Apr 10, 2008
 
"History Of Instrumental Music"

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Apr 10, 2008
 
"Psallo And The Instrumental Music Controversy"

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“Aid” or “Addition”—What Is the Difference?

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Jan 8, 2009
 
I hope people will set aside their emotions and read the lessons above with good and honest hearts. Souls hang in the balance.


21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.(Mt.7:21-23)



9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.(Mt.15:9)

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Jul 2, 2009
 
BIBLICAL PROOF AGAINST INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC IN WORSHIP
The New Testament Does Not Authorize Instrumental Music.
1. Remember what Paul says in Phil. 4:9 –“If you do the things which you learned, received, saw and heard from him – and by extension the rest of the apostles – then the God of peace will be with you. What then if you do not do these things, will God be with you?

2. Paul also tells us the authority by which we should do all things, in Col. 3:17 –“And whatever you do in word and deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.” Here Christ gave no authority to play instrumental music.

3. Jesus says in John 4:24 – "God is spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and truth.”
- Spirit means sincerity of heart; with our whole efforts, putting our whole being into it.
- Truth means – in accordance to the revealed will of God through the scriptures. Jesus:“Sanctify them by your truth; your word is truth.”(Jn. 17:17).

4. Since there is no inference, command, nor example from the New Testament to follow in using instrumental music in worship, the conclusion then is clear – you cannot worship in spirit and truth and offer up instrumental music to God.

5. Since we are the actors and God is the audience, we must give to him exactly what pleases him.

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Jul 2, 2009
 
HISTORICAL PROOF AGAINST INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC IN WORSHIP
Secular History is Against Instrumental Music In Worship. Someone may insist that all of this is your opinion, what does history show concerning the use of instrumental music in worship in the first century. We will look together at a few sources…
1. Early Church Fathers. These are uninspired leaders in the early church, who did not write by inspiration but would write things pertaining to the early church. They would write between 180 AD, just after the apostles were dead, down to the 500s.
2. Everett Ferguson, a former professor at Abiline Christian University in Texas wrote in his book, Acappella Music, on page 47,“When our conclusions about the New Testament evidence concerning the use of the instruments are checked by the writing of the early church fathers, we once more find a negative result.” That is, no instruments are allowed in the worship of the church, and in fact they were even rather hostile to the use of instruments.”
3. James McKennan, who has done a great deal of research on the topic of instrumental music in worship, and also having done his dissertation for his PHd. on the topic at Columbia University in 1965, said on pages 1-2 of his work,“The fathers of the early church were virtually unanimous in their hostility toward musical instruments.”
But, granted, these men were those who have a religious interest in the Church.

Secular Historians: These are men who were theologians – that is, they don’t study the matter from a religious standpoint.
1. The writer in volume 12 of the Americana Encyclopaedia, page 626 says,“The music of the church was at first purely vocal.” That means, they only sang.
2. Paul H. Lang, who has written a book, published in 1942 called “Music in Western Civilizations”, says on page 54,“The development of western music was decisively influenced by the exclusion of musical instruments from the early Christian church.” Remember, he was not writing about religious music now.
3. A German called Hugh Leichtentritt, in his book called “Music, History, and Ideas, on page 34 observes,“Only singing, however, and no playing of instruments was permitted in the early Christian church.”
4. Richard Wagner, the famous German music composer, who died in 1883, said, writing in the Catholic Encyclopaedia, vol. 11, page 651,“To the human voice, the immediate vehicle of sacred word belongs the first place in the churches, and not the instrumental additions nor the trivial scrapings found in the church pieces today. Catholic church music can regain its former purity only by a return to the purely vocal style.”

Thanks to Jamaican Joe

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Jul 2, 2009
 
FURTHER HISTORICAL PROOF AGAINST INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC IN WORSHIP
How Did Instruments Enter the Worship Service of Churches?
1. First, not all denominations even today, use instrumental music.
- Until today, the Eastern Orthrodox Church, which split from the Roman Catholics in 1054, and which numbers about 100 million members, still does not use instrumental music in its worship services.
- As late as 1956, in Belmont, Massachussetts, Constantine Cabrinos published a work called “Byzantine Sacred Music” in which he restated the opposition of that group to instrumental music in worship.
- Some two-thirds of the Minnonite churches both in the US and abroad, do not use instrument music. So, how did it get in?

2. It was brought in because men wanted it so. We have seen already that it has no beginning in New Testament scriptures; and secular and religious history have proved that it had no beginning in the early church.

3. Chambers Encyclopaedia, vol. 7, and page 112, tells us that it was brought in by the Catholics.“The organ is said to have been introduced in the Church by Pope Vatalian-I about 660 AD And even so it is said that instrumental music was not widely used even in the Roman Catholic church up until the 10th century.

4. It was brought in over the objections of some of their best leaders.
- Many protestant leaders, including John Calvin, a Presbyterian, objected to its use. In his commentary on Psalm 33, he says,“It is no more suitable as the burning of incense, the lifting up of tapers, or the revival of the other shadows of the Law of Moses. The Roman Catholic borrowed instrumental music from the Jews.”
- Martin Luther, off whom the Lutheran church is named, despite his objection, is quoted in Clarke’s commentary, vol. 4, page 686 as saying,“The organ in the worship of God is an ensign of Baal.” So for him it smacks of idolatry.
- John Wesley of the Methodist church is also reported in Clarke’s commentary as being opposed to instrumental music. Regarding the organ, he says,“I have no objection of the organs in our chapels – as long as they are neither seen nor heard. Let them not be played, and let them even be covered up."
- Adam Clarke, himself a Methodist preacher and fine scholar who lived over 100 years ago also wrote in vol. 4, page 686 of his commentary the following:“I am an old man, and an old minister, and I hereby declare that I’ve never known instrumental music to be productive and to do any good in the worship of God and I have reason to believe that it is productive of much evil.” Music as a science I esteem and admire, but (instrumental) music in the house of God I abhor and abominate.”
- Charles, a famous Baptist preacher who preached to tens of to thousands of people in London, England, said, while commenting on I Cor. 14:15,“I would soon pray to God with machinery, as to sing to God with machinery.”
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Jul 2, 2009
 
Thanks to Jamaican Joe for his work on the lessons about instrumental music in New Testament worship.

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Nov 3, 2009
 
What people in the early years of the church thought about Instrumental Music in worship?

Instrumental music

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