Penev gets 16 years for abusing teen

Penev gets 16 years for abusing teen

There are 175 comments on the Democrat & Chronicle story from Apr 25, 2007, titled Penev gets 16 years for abusing teen. In it, Democrat & Chronicle reports that:

Gymnastics coach Marian Asenov Penev today accepted a lengthier prison sentence to avoid a trial on charges that he used the Internet to entice a 13-year-old student into having sex with him. via Democrat & Chronicle

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Mary

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#1 May 6, 2007
16 years is not long enough!
Here we go again

Rochester, NY

#2 May 17, 2007
Mary wrote:
16 years is not long enough!
16 yrs for consensual relations, give me a break!!!
Disgusted

Buffalo, NY

#3 Jun 7, 2007
to "here we go again"....now you say it is consensual - you are one sice individual! she was a little girl at the time, there is no excuse for penevs sick behavior. stop make excuses for him!! what if it was your little girl???? would you still think it was ok to abuse her?
A Parent

Rochester, NY

#4 Jun 7, 2007
Do you really beleive that there is anything such thing as consensual sex with a 12 year old girl! To "here we go again" I beleive that I know who you are, and if I am correct you have two little girls of your own and I am wondering if it would have been consensual if it was one of your girls? Maybe if the new owner wasn't so busy sneaking around to have consensual sex with Youlia, maybe one of you would have seen the signs of what was going on. Then again maybe you did know and thought that it was ok. And one more question why would Marion have to have sex with a minor when his wife looks like a twelve year old!
here we go again

Rochester, NY

#5 Jun 12, 2007
A Parent wrote:
Do you really beleive that there is anything such thing as consensual sex with a 12 year old girl! To "here we go again" I beleive that I know who you are, and if I am correct you have two little girls of your own and I am wondering if it would have been consensual if it was one of your girls? Maybe if the new owner wasn't so busy sneaking around to have consensual sex with Youlia, maybe one of you would have seen the signs of what was going on. Then again maybe you did know and thought that it was ok. And one more question why would Marion have to have sex with a minor when his wife looks like a twelve year old!
Interesting, one can not help but notice the dislike and/or envy of Youlia. Yes, she is of small stature and a well toned body, and quite attractive. I guess if I were a woman, I might be jealous of that too.

The only reason I mention "consensual", is that he did not force her into do doing anything.

Take a look at some of the sentences for women convicted of the same offence. They rarely get any jail time....WHY? Society chooses to be quite harsh for some things, but others are not punished. Many years ago women of that age would often be married. No one thought anything of it.

Unfotunately, kids start a lot of stuff way too early for my liking. I don't feel this is an excuse for Marion's part in this...but I do believe 16 years in prison, along with everything else he has already lost is excessive.

If you really need to point fingers, how about parents of this girl doing a better job of teaching their children some values, and morals, this family did not!
A Parent

Buffalo, NY

#6 Jun 20, 2007
As for Youlia being of small stature and well toned women whom obviously you find attractive, I am not jealous! I am also of small stature and well toned and far more attrative then Youlia. I am still wondering what you would say if it was one of your girls? I do agree that the parents should have been more aware of what their daughter was doing, but he was her coach whom she spent alot of time with and I am sure her parents trusted him! He is a grown adult and she is a little girl who is just now figuring out her body. i do understand that she is far more developed than most girls her age but her mentality was still that of a 12 year old child. As far as her parents teaching her morals I am sure that they did their best, but as I am sure you will find out soon enough,you can teach your kids anything that you want but their comes a point in time when your kids will figure out that they have a mind of their own and will start making their own decisions whether they are wrong or right. I am assuming that with all the defending you are doing of Youlia and Marian that you are the one who is now keeping Youlia warm at night and taking over Marian's position at the gym!
here we go again

Rochester, NY

#7 Jun 22, 2007
A Parent wrote:
As for Youlia being of small stature and well toned women whom obviously you find attractive, I am not jealous! I am also of small stature and well toned and far more attrative then Youlia. I am still wondering what you would say if it was one of your girls? I do agree that the parents should have been more aware of what their daughter was doing, but he was her coach whom she spent alot of time with and I am sure her parents trusted him! He is a grown adult and she is a little girl who is just now figuring out her body. i do understand that she is far more developed than most girls her age but her mentality was still that of a 12 year old child. As far as her parents teaching her morals I am sure that they did their best, but as I am sure you will find out soon enough,you can teach your kids anything that you want but their comes a point in time when your kids will figure out that they have a mind of their own and will start making their own decisions whether they are wrong or right. I am assuming that with all the defending you are doing of Youlia and Marian that you are the one who is now keeping Youlia warm at night and taking over Marian's position at the gym!
To A Parent
I am not a perfect person, therefore I would not want to have my entire life put under the public micoscope.

If youlia has managed to have someone that is helping her through this devistating experience, I say good for her. But at least I am wise enough to know it's simply none of my business.

As for Marian, he will pay a pretty severe price for his part in this. He has lost his children, his wife, he is finacially broke, he has lost his home, his business, he will most likely be a registered sex offender for the rest of his life and on top of all that they want to add another 6 years and have it be 16 years in prison. I just think that is too much.

The only good thing for Marian is that this judge makes lots of mistakes, if youv'e seen any of the recent articles. So at least Marion will have a chance at being treated farely. First Siragusa gets Marian to publicly plead guilty for a ten year sentence, and then he rejects the plea....that's real fare. How does one get a fare trial now?
wtf-r-u-nuts

Redford, MI

#8 Jul 21, 2007
Funny how "here we go again" talks about the "fare" (by the way it is FAIR) treatment the Penev may or may not get, yet no mention of the innocent 12 year old's treatment by that pedophile. My plans for him, had it been my child would have ensured that he who cannot keep it in his pants would not have anything to keep. He lost his children, his wife, his money his home and I am supposed to feel sorry for him...why? There are consequences to one's actions. He has to pay them.
Please don't try to bring up female abusers and their light if not non-existent punishments. No one agrees with that either except men who wish they'd had the opportunity themselves.
way back to GTC

Brookline, MA

#9 Jul 21, 2007
these posts are pathetic, but i couldn't help but add one as well.
what happened is awful.
marian & youlia were my coaches for 10 years, an amazing team they led. we had a blast, they seemed happy, they worked us hard....we worked hard and did well and felt good.
and i think marian lost it. and i'm so so so sorry for the family that is going thru everything. i have kids now, can't even imagine how i would feel.
but i think he just lost it. and i think maybe youlia did too. i remember coming back to see them when they were at eastside, she seemed so unhappy. and i think the girls on the team may have felt that.
it sucks that it came down to something like this. this is the worse possible scenario.
but i can't help but think about the larger picture too, it just seems (from a far) that the ball was dropped multiple times... and then it came to this.
i hope everyone is seeking therapy.
and i hope people outside of the direct situation can take a step back and realize how lucky they are. and continue to support eachother. and talk to eachother. and be honest with eachother.
and not go back and forth on message boards.
because theres more to it folks.
and our lives, families, and communities are precious. its time to refocus
HWGA

Rochester, NY

#10 Jul 23, 2007
wtf-r-u-nuts wrote:
Funny how "here we go again" talks about the "fare" (by the way it is FAIR) treatment the Penev may or may not get, yet no mention of the innocent 12 year old's treatment by that pedophile. My plans for him, had it been my child would have ensured that he who cannot keep it in his pants would not have anything to keep. He lost his children, his wife, his money his home and I am supposed to feel sorry for him...why? There are consequences to one's actions. He has to pay them.
Please don't try to bring up female abusers and their light if not non-existent punishments. No one agrees with that either except men who wish they'd had the opportunity themselves.
It's not a matter of me wanting people to feel sorry for him...simply put; I believe that the punishment is excessive and I don't think it's fair(thanks for the correction) that the judge changed his mind based on a couple of letters from the family and a pschologist after all parties had agreed to the terms. How many times does the family get to change their minds on this.

I for one, totally support Marian pleadeing not-guilty for the State charges, and take this thing to trial. There is a ton of evidence that will come out about these charges that will suprize the public. If you are familiar with all the parties concerned in this, then you already know what I am talking about!!

The only good thing that is coming of of these rather protracted proceedeings, is the Siragusa's amateurish handling of this case will surely give Marian a plethora of opportunities and options for his appleal.
HWGA

Rochester, NY

#11 Jul 23, 2007
way back to GTC wrote:
these posts are pathetic, but i couldn't help but add one as well.
what happened is awful.
marian & youlia were my coaches for 10 years, an amazing team they led. we had a blast, they seemed happy, they worked us hard....we worked hard and did well and felt good.
and i think marian lost it. and i'm so so so sorry for the family that is going thru everything. i have kids now, can't even imagine how i would feel.
but i think he just lost it. and i think maybe youlia did too. i remember coming back to see them when they were at eastside, she seemed so unhappy. and i think the girls on the team may have felt that.
it sucks that it came down to something like this. this is the worse possible scenario.
but i can't help but think about the larger picture too, it just seems (from a far) that the ball was dropped multiple times... and then it came to this.
i hope everyone is seeking therapy.
and i hope people outside of the direct situation can take a step back and realize how lucky they are. and continue to support eachother. and talk to eachother. and be honest with eachother.
and not go back and forth on message boards.
because theres more to it folks.
and our lives, families, and communities are precious. its time to refocus
Why do you seem so focussed on everyone losing it. I think Youlia's reaction to all of these accusations and the character she exibited was incredible. Put yourself in her shoes....getting news like that!!!

As a close friend, I can assure you that she was very happy whith how things were going in the new gym, and with her family and friends.

I think you may be losing it??
way back to GTC

Jamaica Plain, MA

#12 Jul 26, 2007
yer right. i'm losing it.
nah, Marian lost it though--he had to have.

Youlia is a super strong person, always has been. i didn't mean to talk any smack on her. i was just referring to something that i shouldn't have brought up on this message board.

i'll stop now, shouldn't have even gotten into this whole message board thing.
way back to GTC

Jamaica Plain, MA

#13 Jul 26, 2007
ps-
thank you for being such a solid support system for Youlia & Eddie
HWGA

Rochester, NY

#14 Jul 27, 2007
way back to GTC wrote:
yer right. i'm losing it.
nah, Marian lost it though--he had to have.
Youlia is a super strong person, always has been. i didn't mean to talk any smack on her. i was just referring to something that i shouldn't have brought up on this message board.
i'll stop now, shouldn't have even gotten into this whole message board thing.
Total agreement here, can't imagine what Marian was thinking...although he will have ample time to sort that out for himself...
Your conscience

Chandler, AZ

#15 Sep 3, 2007
All of you people make me SICK with this crap. I goddamn hope you can all sleep well at night knowning an innocent man is paying the price for some stupid adolescent b***h!
WTF

Fairport, NY

#16 Sep 5, 2007
Your conscience wrote:
All of you people make me SICK with this crap. I goddamn hope you can all sleep well at night knowning an innocent man is paying the price for some stupid adolescent b***h!
Innocent men don't have sex with thirteen year old girls...you moron! YOU MAKE ME SICK!!!
Gymmom

Gloversville, NY

#17 Sep 7, 2007
WTF wrote:
<quoted text>
Innocent men don't have sex with thirteen year old girls...you moron! YOU MAKE ME SICK!!!
I could not agree more. Further, "Innocent men" do not admit-in open court-to having sex with a 12 year old. "Innocent men" do not AGREE to accept a greater sentence rather than withdraw that guilty plea and go to trial. Let's not forget Penev faced BOTH State charges for RAPING this kid, and Federal charges for using the internet to facilitate his sick behavior. Neither the DA nor the US Attorney was bound by any promise made to this deviant by the other. Finally, there is nothing "consentual" about a 40 year old man having sex with a 12 year old girl. Penev is NOT an "innocent man." He is a pedophile and I am confident he is learning the distinction between consentual and non-consentual sexual relations in prison.
Predator not pedophile

Rochester, NY

#18 Sep 10, 2007
Hopefully someday when the victim is stronger and wants her voice heard, she will inform people of what a predator truly means. Marian was a predator!! He sought out his victim and coerced her into his sick fantasies. I don't know how supporters of Penev can say it was consensual? Because he claims it to be so...?? You listen to a man that proclaimed his innocence in the face of DNA evidence and computer evidence. How can you believe anything he says. He is a pathological liar/manipulator. You really should do some serious soul searching about.
Predator not pedophile

Rochester, NY

#19 Sep 10, 2007
Your conscience wrote:
All of you people make me SICK with this crap. I goddamn hope you can all sleep well at night knowning an innocent man is paying the price for some stupid adolescent b***h!
Marian chose to go to prison for 16 years for what he did! He could have gone to trial, He is obviously NOT INNOCENT!! There is NO EXCUSE for IGNORANCE!!
HWGA

Rochester, NY

#20 Sep 10, 2007
It's kind of funny seeing the comments from various people who think they know what really happened with these two people. By definition if he did not force her to commit these acts, then it must have been consensual.

I think your letting your dirty little imaginations get the best of you!

As far as I know, their has been no final sentencing yet...Marian only had ten minutes in court to make a choice, take 16 yrs or face 30 or more years, he may just change his mind. If this does go to trial, "ALL" will be public.

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