To old

Jackson, MO

#118 May 11, 2012
NOT wrote:
shouldnt call him a pastor, thats not a pastor. thats a devil in sheep clothing , the bible said they would be here. and they are arriving at a steady pace. with obama the leader of our country, have you ever really thought about that.? He is Our Leader, a Role model for The United States of America approving gay and lesbian lifestyle!!! you better get your house in order cause God will not tolerate these sins much longer. Jesus Is Coming. Soon and Very soon.
Gay and lesbian don't molest children. What is it your book says about judging ?If I were going to follow the Christian form of religion it would be the part that say love everyone, or maybe the one about who gets to throw the first stone. I really could go on bet Why? I know beyond any doubt you are wrong.
Non-politician

Silex, MO

#119 May 11, 2012
NOT wrote:
shouldnt call him a pastor, thats not a pastor. thats a devil in sheep clothing , the bible said they would be here. and they are arriving at a steady pace. with obama the leader of our country, have you ever really thought about that.? He is Our Leader, a Role model for The United States of America approving gay and lesbian lifestyle!!! you better get your house in order cause God will not tolerate these sins much longer. Jesus Is Coming. Soon and Very soon.
Do you really think everything would be better if Romney or McCain was President? As for gays and lesbians, it wasn't them that hurt those children. It was the act of one sick and disturbed person. As of right now that person is in jail.
a lady

Pulaski, TN

#120 May 11, 2012
NOT wrote:
shouldnt call him a pastor, thats not a pastor. thats a devil in sheep clothing , the bible said they would be here. and they are arriving at a steady pace. with obama the leader of our country, have you ever really thought about that.? He is Our Leader, a Role model for The United States of America approving gay and lesbian lifestyle!!! you better get your house in order cause God will not tolerate these sins much longer. Jesus Is Coming. Soon and Very soon.
amen the real christians recognise this satan is rampant becaue he knows the time better than we do
a lady

Pulaski, TN

#121 May 11, 2012
amen the real christians recognise this satan is rampant he know the time better than we do god warned us of this in the latter days don't blame him satan is the counterfiet
Guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#122 May 11, 2012
Does anyone not find it interesting that Donnie Fisk wa arrested today for basically the same thing? Perhaps the preacher is trying repent in his own way?
Ep guest

Addison, IL

#123 May 11, 2012
What about the wife did she know any of this was going on?
guest

United States

#124 May 11, 2012
Ep guest wrote:
What about the wife did she know any of this was going on?
i believa so, how could she not
Ep guest

Addison, IL

#125 May 11, 2012
I believe she should get the same punishment that he gets he's a sick person
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#126 May 11, 2012
Guest wrote:
Does anyone not find it interesting that Donnie Fisk wa arrested today for basically the same thing? Perhaps the preacher is trying repent in his own way?
You don't know what you're talking about. Fisk has one misdemeanor... Kenny Allen will have 50+ felonies in 3 states before its all said and done.
Ep resident

Jackson, MO

#127 May 12, 2012
This is a sad situation. This has a big impact on the east prairie society itself. Its a tradition for kids to look up to preachers, because they preach the WORD of GOD. But when things like this happen. It brings parents to worry over kids going to small churches.
Former Resident

Silex, MO

#128 May 12, 2012
Ep resident wrote:
This is a sad situation. This has a big impact on the east prairie society itself. Its a tradition for kids to look up to preachers, because they preach the WORD of GOD. But when things like this happen. It brings parents to worry over kids going to small churches.
This has nothing to do with the size of the church. These types of abusive behaviors can happen at a large church just as easily.

What is important is that when churches seek pastors, youth leaders, and other staff, it is important for search committees to do extensive background checks. This should not be limited to simply the 'references' on a resume. You have to contact the denomination to see if there has been a pattern of possible misconduct in other churches which the leader served.

There is no doubt that it will take a long time for the victims as well as the rest of the congregation to heal. What this church must not do is "quickly" find a replacement pastor.

It should bring in an "interim" pastor with skills in crisis care to oversee this church for at least a year, maybe two.

Pray for this congregation but don't judge it or any church simply based on the action of one man.
Ep resident

Jackson, MO

#129 May 12, 2012
Well large churches too. Happy
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#130 May 12, 2012
Former Resident wrote:
<quoted text>This has nothing to do with the size of the church. These types of abusive behaviors can happen at a large church just as easily.

What is important is that when churches seek pastors, youth leaders, and other staff, it is important for search committees to do extensive background checks. This should not be limited to simply the 'references' on a resume. You have to contact the denomination to see if there has been a pattern of possible misconduct in other churches which the leader served.

There is no doubt that it will take a long time for the victims as well as the rest of the congregation to heal. What this church must not do is "quickly" find a replacement pastor.

It should bring in an "interim" pastor with skills in crisis care to oversee this church for at least a year, maybe two.

Pray for this congregation but don't judge it or any church simply based on the action of one man.
This guy would've passed a background check. He had no prior criminal history.

It's common sense though, that you shouldn't let your kids spend the night with strangers.

If you've known him for 4 years, which is 10% of his life, he's a stranger. Preacher or not.
important

Chicago, IL

#131 May 12, 2012
Hello wrote:
You know it is very very sad that you people are trying to crucify this man. Have you not ever known of anyone being falsly accused and this man may be. I don't know as well as you guys don't. I don't know him personally but I have talked to him a few times as well as his wife and mother. I really didn't see this kind of man in him. He needs lots of prayer. Kids cam lie to get their way or for attention. If he really did do this I pray he gets what's coming to him but if he didn't I pray he gets out of it. If he is truly a man of God he will be taken care. But before anyone cast any stones they need to make sure you know the truth. It's sad either way whether he is guilty or not. And if all this is true my prayers go out to all the victims.
true can be falsly accused but when your little boy has different boxers than he had on and lotion on the boxes what would u think cause this happened
guest

Chicago, IL

#132 May 12, 2012
this man makes me sick
Former Resident

Silex, MO

#133 May 12, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
This guy would've passed a background check. He had no prior criminal history.
It's common sense though, that you shouldn't let your kids spend the night with strangers.
If you've known him for 4 years, which is 10% of his life, he's a stranger. Preacher or not.
From what some of the other posts indicate, this man was watching kids of families whose parents were working at night.

In an ideal world, there would be family members or friends who could help watch the kids. However, it appears some of the victims did not have those options. Likewise, there are "relatives" you can't trust because they, too, are sexual predators.

Given those options, what is a family that needs child care to do? If the parent stays home and can't work, and they wind up on public assistance, then everyone starts complaining and calling them "bums".

With respect to churches, we have a policy at the church my family attends which says there will always be a minimum of two adults present per every six kids during our youth activities. Furthermore, the events are always held at the church or in a public place. We do this in addition to extensive background checks of staff and volunteers who work with children.

Bottom line: you can't fully trust strangers, but you have to trust some people to a point. For example, do you not send your kids to school because you don't know the teachers?
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#134 May 12, 2012
Former Resident wrote:
<quoted text>From what some of the other posts indicate, this man was watching kids of families whose parents were working at night.

In an ideal world, there would be family members or friends who could help watch the kids. However, it appears some of the victims did not have those options. Likewise, there are "relatives" you can't trust because they, too, are sexual predators.

Given those options, what is a family that needs child care to do? If the parent stays home and can't work, and they wind up on public assistance, then everyone starts complaining and calling them "bums".

With respect to churches, we have a policy at the church my family attends which says there will always be a minimum of two adults present per every six kids during our youth activities. Furthermore, the events are always held at the church or in a public place. We do this in addition to extensive background checks of staff and volunteers who work with children.

Bottom line: you can't fully trust strangers, but you have to trust some people to a point. For example, do you not send your kids to school because you don't know the teachers?
At school, kids have 5-7 teachers in a given day, and a 1:30 staff to student ration.

I'd never trust someone with my kids if they don't have kids of their own.
guest

Chicago, IL

#135 May 12, 2012
Former Resident wrote:
<quoted text>From what some of the other posts indicate, this man was watching kids of families whose parents were working at night.

In an ideal world, there would be family members or friends who could help watch the kids. However, it appears some of the victims did not have those options. Likewise, there are "relatives" you can't trust because they, too, are sexual predators.

Given those options, what is a family that needs child care to do? If the parent stays home and can't work, and they wind up on public assistance, then everyone starts complaining and calling them "bums".

With respect to churches, we have a policy at the church my family attends which says there will always be a minimum of two adults present per every six kids during our youth activities. Furthermore, the events are always held at the church or in a public place. We do this in addition to extensive background checks of staff and volunteers who work with children.

Bottom line: you can't fully trust strangers, but you have to trust some people to a point. For example, do you not send your kids to school because you don't know the teachers?
Are you condoaning this idiots actions?
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#136 May 12, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>Are you condoaning this idiots actions?
Hell no. I'm saying a background check is not all-telling.
Grace

Chicago, IL

#137 May 12, 2012
Let the courts handle this and pray the children's be ok wwjd!!!!!!! Pray

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