Ten year old in East Lyme arrested fo...

Ten year old in East Lyme arrested for threatening

There are 59 comments on the WTNH Hartford, New Haven and Connecticut story from Apr 1, 2008, titled Ten year old in East Lyme arrested for threatening. In it, WTNH Hartford, New Haven and Connecticut reports that:

East Lyme _ A ten year old boy faces criminal charges over a note and drawings he made in class.

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WHAT

Old Lyme, CT

#1 Apr 1, 2008
This is a ten year old kid we are talking about, crimminal charges? How about a time out, no video games for a week. The Board of Ed is acting like 9 year olds.
Jay

La Puente, CA

#2 Apr 1, 2008
Man, I would have been arrested dozens of time when I was younger for things I drew in school. Paranoia.
Soldat

Clifton Park, NY

#3 Apr 1, 2008
They arrest 5 year olds in America now. As this country regreses into a hatefull society full of fear and distrust for everyone even childeren are prisoned like adults. America is a society in decline and we all are letting it happen.

If it serves the Govt this kid could be proscuted as an adult.Remember it is to serve and to protect the Govt. The Govt owns the people.My how we let our rights just slip away.
Willy Lump Lump

Winsted, CT

#4 Apr 1, 2008
Soldat wrote:
They arrest 5 year olds in America now. As this country regreses into a hatefull society full of fear and distrust for everyone even childeren are prisoned like adults. America is a society in decline and we all are letting it happen.
If it serves the Govt this kid could be proscuted as an adult.Remember it is to serve and to protect the Govt. The Govt owns the people.My how we let our rights just slip away.
... If you hate this country so much, go back where you came from,your grammar and spelling indicate you're foreign born, or a school dropout. If this country's so bad leave. There's no other place this good.
are YOU surprised

Antioch, TN

#5 Apr 1, 2008
You cant trust anyone these days. Look at Columbine et al. This little punk needs to be taught a lesson, and made an example of.
Misunderstood

Waterbury, CT

#6 Apr 1, 2008
This poor little boy has no idea what he did or the reason he is in trouble. A person that age should have it explain to them and how serious it is. He is not an adult. I have a ten year old and would hope I have raised him not to misbehave, however when he dos wrong he is punished but he is also told why. We should not have even seen this story in the news. You want to charge someone make sure to PUNISH the man in New Britain
EL Citizen

United States

#7 Apr 1, 2008
I am embarrassed to say that I live in this town. I am embarrassed to say that these cops chose to do this. I am equally embarrassed to say that the school board thought that this was OK.
I seriously hope that this makes the National News and EL is laughed at all over the nation. I will do my best to make that happen. This story makes me sick on so many levels.

I also hope that the family of this CHILD gets an attorney, and files a suite against the school board and the police.

This should have gone no further than the school psychologist.

A few years ago, a young middle-school girl threatened to bring a gun into this school. The 'mother' of the girl, was sleeping with 2 members of the ELPD, both of those officers where married at the time and were recently promoted to Sgt.'s of the department.
NO charges were filed in that case. Perhaps this boy's mother could have offered to get on HER knee's so her son was not charged.

The police can sit there and wonder why the people of this town do not respect them, well, this is one of the reasons. Stories like these are RAMPANT, and bring down the reputation of the Officers that do an ethical and good job every time they put on their uniform...the good officers leave the department on a regular basis because of the unethical actions of some members of ELPD...

Oh, and to the Chief of ELPD....last week, one of your officers pulled over a car full of teenagers...they were smoking pot, your officer let them go...after confiscating the drugs.
Is the pot sitting in your evidence closet?
Or did you even know about it...

But yeah, bust the 10 yr old for blowing off steam, let the DUI go, leave the pot. Time for some random urine tests huh?

Names will be forwarded to Internal Affairs. I am tired of the BS some of the constables pull in this town; no wonder the prosecuters throw most of your cases away...YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY!!!!
John B

North Haven, CT

#8 Apr 1, 2008
In this time and day, a threat is a threat.

Period.

Everything has to be taken seriously, because of that one in a million chance.

I'm sure Dylan Kleibold's parents thought the same things.
Joe

New Haven, CT

#9 Apr 1, 2008
In my mind, this 5th grader deserves some time with the School Psychologist or social worker, not the State Police. and the fact that these school boards condone such drastic action is as disturbing or more. Not everything is so black and white...... sorta reminds me of the New Haven Board of Education candy caper or recent days.....Just my opinion
ren

Niantic, CT

#10 Apr 1, 2008
Too bad...this is the result of taking God out of our education system and public life. Before, children were taught the golden rule, the 10 commandments and how to pray. The result of this was an internalized "rule" system within each person that governed their behavior and they knew the difference between right and wrong...(i.e. in hunting seasons most of the boys used to bring their guns to school in bygone days...there were no school shootings). Because there is no more internalized morality in this country (people controlling themselves), we are forced to put up with more and more silly rules from the government that restrict people's freedom and would be totally unnecessary if people knew right from wrong and had self control.
therewasnothreat

United States

#11 Apr 1, 2008
John B wrote:
In this time and day, a threat is a threat.
Period.
Everything has to be taken seriously, because of that one in a million chance.
I'm sure Dylan Kleibold's parents thought the same things.
Direct Quote from Sgt. Crooks; Resident State Trooper at ELPD...
www.theday.com
“We don't believe he had the intent to cause harm to the school,” Crooks said.
and
Crooks said there was no indication of a threat to the students or staff at the school and at no time were students at risk. Students were not evacuated and classes were not disrupted.
I hope those words come back to haunt the ELPD. The Sgt. stated himself that there was NO THREAT.
No threat ='s no basis for an arrest. just posturing on the part of ELPD. If they wanted to make headlines, then they should bust the people who are breaking into homes....
He is ten

Wolcott, CT

#12 Apr 1, 2008
Hello, the child is 10. A threat is a threat pleeese. To arrest a 10 year old child is nuts! I have an 11 year old that draws all the time, should I now make sure he doesn't draw the school or if in fact he does it is to blow it up! I have to agree with Joe, lets figure out why it was drawn. Either we are too soon to arrest or not soon enough.
West Haven

West Hartford, CT

#13 Apr 1, 2008
John B wrote:
In this time and day, a threat is a threat.
Period.
Everything has to be taken seriously, because of that one in a million chance.
I'm sure Dylan Kleibold's parents thought the same things.
I understand how things escalate in today's society, BUT...I think this would have been better handed at the school psychologist's office rather than a police station. Let's not forget...he's 10. The first course of action should have been to find out why he did what he did if there was no threat, as the police have admitted.
Jen

New York, NY

#14 Apr 1, 2008
Folks, what part of zero tollerance don't you understand. Age 5,8 10, 15 or 18 this young man drew a floor plan with threatening comments on it. As a parent, I would be alarmed. With all the crap on television these days, trust nobody. Not to mention, he may have older friends - they may know a little more than the 10 year old. Trust me 10 year olds are having sex - don't be naive.
makesmesick

United States

#15 Apr 1, 2008
For years there has been a rampant bullying problem in this school system. About 6 years ago, my child was being bullied in the middle-school (where this took place)...I tried to get something done, but the VP at the time, Mr. Buck, refused to do anything...flat out refused.(funny how this man got promoted....)

The police also refused. even though assault was involved. These kids physically assualted other kids...and ELPD REFUSED to do anything.

Fast forward a few years later...while on vacation, a communty members house was broken into and destroyed. Teenagers thought it would be a good idea to have party's at this house..they stole cars, they ransacked the house, stole things...and pretty much ruined the houses.

Those kids who ruined the houses were the kids who were bullying in the middle-school. The parents had 'money'...so they were never held accountable for the violent actions as middle-school students. They were not given the chance to get help before they got out of control, the school board and police department were too busy being affected by the financial status of some of the students parents.

That is yet another incident where not only school administraters, parents, local PD and others completly dropped the ball.

So, now, here we have a 10 year old kid..who by the Sgt.'s OWN ACCOUNT, posed no threat to anyone..he is being arrested.

And all he did was draw.

My kid? One of the kids who was bullied and assaulted?
Not so much as a detention in three years of high school....he knew about the party...however, I brought him up to be a gentleman, and he refered to this group of hoodlums as...losers.

Now, another thing I would like to address...

A few months back, at the homecoming dance, a group of kids were found with alcohol..some were arrested.(mind you, on school property)
Some were allowed to represent our town on the football field the very next week.(although, because of rampant alcohol and drug abuse amongst the MAJORITY of the football team...the team sucks, and having the little hoodlums play was representative of the team as a whole...) Yet another group of kids my kid refers to as losers...

Money talks....criminals walk.

But yeah...let's arrest the 10 year old.....really now.

The IQ of this 'blue ribbon' school is dropping rapidly.
OPINION

Greens Farms, CT

#16 Apr 1, 2008
get them while their young...they will onyl grow up to be bigger criminals and cause harm to innocent persons.
Groton CT

United States

#17 Apr 1, 2008
It’s not only East Lyme arresting children. Groton for the past 5 years has been arresting 10 year children for basic child like behavior. Children under the age of 18 years of age have even been convicted and sent to prison. Yes, PRISON not juvenile hall on first time offenses.
Is it the police officers judgment to blame or is it really the judges and prosecutors for allowing this miscarriage of judgment to continue.
Parents heed this warning unless you have raised perfect children, at anytime your child can be arrested. It could be from throwing a rock, wrestling and another child receives any injury from a cut to a bruise, or property destroyed including a scratch or dent.
Now drawing a picture…

“Don't Get Mad, Get Silly”

Since: Mar 08

God Bless Our Troops

#18 Apr 1, 2008
EL Citizen wrote:
I am embarrassed to say that I live in this town. I am embarrassed to say that these cops chose to do this. I am equally embarrassed to say that the school board thought that this was OK.
I seriously hope that this makes the National News and EL is laughed at all over the nation. I will do my best to make that happen. This story makes me sick on so many levels.
I also hope that the family of this CHILD gets an attorney, and files a suite against the school board and the police.
This should have gone no further than the school psychologist.
A few years ago, a young middle-school girl threatened to bring a gun into this school. The 'mother' of the girl, was sleeping with 2 members of the ELPD, both of those officers where married at the time and were recently promoted to Sgt.'s of the department.
NO charges were filed in that case. Perhaps this boy's mother could have offered to get on HER knee's so her son was not charged.
The police can sit there and wonder why the people of this town do not respect them, well, this is one of the reasons. Stories like these are RAMPANT, and bring down the reputation of the Officers that do an ethical and good job every time they put on their uniform...the good officers leave the department on a regular basis because of the unethical actions of some members of ELPD...
Oh, and to the Chief of ELPD....last week, one of your officers pulled over a car full of teenagers...they were smoking pot, your officer let them go...after confiscating the drugs.
Is the pot sitting in your evidence closet?
Or did you even know about it...
But yeah, bust the 10 yr old for blowing off steam, let the DUI go, leave the pot. Time for some random urine tests huh?
Names will be forwarded to Internal Affairs. I am tired of the BS some of the constables pull in this town; no wonder the prosecuters throw most of your cases away...YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY!!!!
Uh oh, sounds like another department may be having serious problems. After reading about Madison's PD, nothing surprises me. If you don't mind sharing, I am curious to know how you know about the pull-over w/ confiscated pot, if you don't mind sharing that info. It doesn't sound like you were in the car.
elparent

United States

#19 Apr 1, 2008
Groton CT wrote:
It’s not only East Lyme arresting children. Groton for the past 5 years has been arresting 10 year children for basic child like behavior. Children under the age of 18 years of age have even been convicted and sent to prison. Yes, PRISON not juvenile hall on first time offenses.
Is it the police officers judgment to blame or is it really the judges and prosecutors for allowing this miscarriage of judgment to continue.
Parents heed this warning unless you have raised perfect children, at anytime your child can be arrested. It could be from throwing a rock, wrestling and another child receives any injury from a cut to a bruise, or property destroyed including a scratch or dent.
Now drawing a picture…
Disgusting isn't it?

This is what the taxpayers pay the school psychologists for...but again, more underqualified over paid school officials. They do not want to do thier job, so give the job to the police to handle.

sad...very sad
spasegrl

Lexington Park, MD

#20 Apr 1, 2008
I had to deal with the middle school staff when my kid was there, and let me tell you they left a lot to be desired. It doesn't surprise me that they acted like idiots in this situation. A sense of overinflated importance permeates the attitude of the admin.
As far as the police go in this town, not all but some do practise some morally reprehensible behavior. They like to live by the credo "Do as I say not as I do".

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