Union sues to halt Pratt & Whitney job cuts

The Machinists union asked a federal judge Tuesday to block Pratt & Whitney from moving 1,000 jobs from Connecticut, accusing the jet engine maker of negotiating in bad faith.

[Justin]

Get over it!

[Tman]

Thanx Ct Dems for taxing all business so much that they cannot be competitive, better start giving tax breaks to business and cut expenses of govermnt before we lose all manufacturing to other states...or countries

[old geezer]

I find it interesting that our reps in DC are silent on this issue which involves sending maintenance work for military aircraft offshore

[Brian]

Justin

Your attitude is what is wrong with America. You probably blame the Union also for negotiating the best wages and bennefits it could for its members while the company was making record profits. We wont get overthis and we wont stop fighting for our members until this BullSh#t of shipping our jobs overseas to increase their profits is looked upon in America as an act of treason. I wonder if the Board of directors pledges allegience to the flag. But don't let patriotism get in the way of capitalism. Wake the F#*k up.

[Huh]

Justin wrote:

Get over it!

Why should "Asia" get any of this work? We need to keep the work right here in the U.S. I agree that attitudes like yours are what is wrong with the country.

[fenster]

Brian wrote:

Justin
Your attitude is what is wrong with America. You probably blame the Union also for negotiating the best wages and bennefits it could for its members while the company was making record profits. We wont get overthis and we wont stop fighting for our members until this BullSh#t of shipping our jobs overseas to increase their profits is looked upon in America as an act of treason. I wonder if the Board of directors pledges allegience to the flag. But don't let patriotism get in the way of capitalism. Wake the F#*k up.

hey, they are americans in georgia and north carolina too. they don't have the same wages or taxes as we have, so the cost of business is much less there. that's why businesses are pulling out of ct.

[Tom]

Bingo, fenster. This union endorsed the entitlement mentality, and now paid for the attitude.

Boo Hoo.

[PROUD USA]

JUST WONDERING...HOW MANY OF YOU UNION PEOPLE ARE DRIVING CARS MADE IN THE USA? INTERESTING DONT YOU THINK.....

[lil slut]

the democrates in Hartford don't want free enterprize, look at the public housing giveaway.They could care less about a few jobs.they only want votes to stay in power.We have become the great socialist state of amerika.

[Yahweh]

fenster wrote:

<quoted text>hey, they are americans in georgia and north carolina too. they don't have the same wages or taxes as we have, so the cost of business is much less there. that's why businesses are pulling out of ct.

For an old fart who spends his days on Topix, you are terribly uninformed.

The southern states are just a temporary stop, next comes foreign factories. Examples abound. The brass mills that once lined the Naugatuck Valley all moved south in the 1950's and '60's. Within a few years, they moved offshore. Same with the textile mills in the Northeast. Remember Bigelow Mills in Enfield?? First to the south, then to Mexico and other foreign nations. Same with the rubber industry.

You're expecting CT to compete with nations that have labor costs like we had 80 years ago. It's not possible. Corporate Amerika decided to put profits ahead of patriotism, and we will all pay a heavy price for it. We are bankrupt, have few natural resources, and civil unrest is coming - soon.

The riots of the late '60's will seem pale by comparison. A man will do whoever he needs to in order to feed his children.

If you think you can sit back and watch others suffer while you maintain your existing lifestyle, you are delusional. With hungry people heavily armed, the Police won't even be a speedbump on the way to your suburban hideaway. And you're old and weak.

We're all in this together, and when the spit hits the fan, we will all be splattered.

[fenster]

Yahweh wrote:

<quoted text>
For an old fart who spends his days on Topix, you are terribly uninformed.
The southern states are just a temporary stop, next comes foreign factories. Examples abound. The brass mills that once lined the Naugatuck Valley all moved south in the 1950's and '60's. Within a few years, they moved offshore. Same with the textile mills in the Northeast. Remember Bigelow Mills in Enfield?? First to the south, then to Mexico and other foreign nations. Same with the rubber industry.
You're expecting CT to compete with nations that have labor costs like we had 80 years ago. It's not possible. Corporate Amerika decided to put profits ahead of patriotism, and we will all pay a heavy price for it. We are bankrupt, have few natural resources, and civil unrest is coming - soon.
The riots of the late '60's will seem pale by comparison. A man will do whoever he needs to in order to feed his children.
If you think you can sit back and watch others suffer while you maintain your existing lifestyle, you are delusional. With hungry people heavily armed, the Police won't even be a speedbump on the way to your suburban hideaway. And you're old and weak.
We're all in this together, and when the spit hits the fan, we will all be splattered.

yep, i do have to partially agree with you, civil unrest is lurking around the corner, but it can all be staved off by reversing the trends established many years age. how can we in ct attract skilled manufacturing back? the answer is obvious."change is coming in the wind"

[Tom]

"The southern states are just a temporary stop, next comes foreign factories. Examples abound. The brass mills that once lined the Naugatuck Valley all moved south in the 1950's and '60's. "

Really: Please explain Casco Products still maintaining a plant in Morgantown, Ky. As opposed to Bridgeport, Ct.

News flash: The quantity of ex-Ct mfg plants in RTW states is quite large.

Casco is but one example.

P&W is not investing in Ga to lose the millions required to start up there after a few months or years. Corps don't do major projects with a short-term view.

[Bob Lavoie]

We all knew about this for a long time. If all the smart union types saved all their OT money instead of buying all the toys they would be set like me and my wife. Stop complaining and get over this Pratt was a great place to work and everyone made allot of money there. You cant get a job right out of high school that pays 70k plus year with OT. We were very lucky...... the party is over and thanks UTC

[Bob Lavoie]

This is why our rates are so high we take everyone to court.

[Yahweh]

Tom wrote:

"The southern states are just a temporary stop, next comes foreign factories. Examples abound. The brass mills that once lined the Naugatuck Valley all moved south in the 1950's and '60's. "
Really: Please explain Casco Products still maintaining a plant in Morgantown, Ky. As opposed to Bridgeport, Ct.
News flash: The quantity of ex-Ct mfg plants in RTW states is quite large.
Casco is but one example.
P&W is not investing in Ga to lose the millions required to start up there after a few months or years. Corps don't do major projects with a short-term view.

Please explain why furniture and textile manufacturers have shipped thousands of jobs that were in the south to China and Indonesia.

There may be some plants who stayed in the USA, but based on unemployment numbers in North and South Carolina, as well as Georgisa and Tennessee, it would appear the job drain is still going on.

For every plant you mention that moved from the northeast to the south that is still based in the USA, I can give you 5 that have moved the jobs offshore. From southern 'non union' states.

How about the counties in Georgia and other southern states that are overrun by illegal immigrants working in these factories?? Protected by politicians on the take.

The south is even losing chicken processing plants, bankrupting whole communities.

I lived in Kentucky for several years. You needn't try to blow smoke up my ass about how well they're doing down there. If it weren't for meth labs and growing pot, the south would starve.

[Tom]

Yahweh, Many moved offshore, but for the ones that moved to other states, get to the root cause. Before it's too late. The states with lower costs will pull out of the recession, the institute which best predicted severity of recession expects Ct job recovery to occur post 2015.

Hold onto your P & W(s).

BTW, the South is not simply rural Ky, Nissan hq is in Nashville metro, which was named Relocation America's #1 city of choice 3 times in 10 years. 31 Fortune 1000 corps put hq or regional hq there in a 36 month span.

Where was Bridgeport on the list?

[too bad]

PROUD USA wrote:

JUST WONDERING...HOW MANY OF YOU UNION PEOPLE ARE DRIVING CARS MADE IN THE USA? INTERESTING DONT YOU THINK.....

How many shop at walmart and homedepot.These are two companies that pushed union and non union jobs to china and mexico.

[Fed Up with the Socialism]

Yahweh wrote:

<quoted text>
For an old fart who spends his days on Topix, you are terribly uninformed.
The southern states are just a temporary stop, next comes foreign factories. Examples abound. The brass mills that once lined the Naugatuck Valley all moved south in the 1950's and '60's. Within a few years, they moved offshore. Same with the textile mills in the Northeast. Remember Bigelow Mills in Enfield?? First to the south, then to Mexico and other foreign nations. Same with the rubber industry.
You're expecting CT to compete with nations that have labor costs like we had 80 years ago. It's not possible. Corporate Amerika decided to put profits ahead of patriotism, and we will all pay a heavy price for it. We are bankrupt, have few natural resources, and civil unrest is coming - soon.
The riots of the late '60's will seem pale by comparison. A man will do whoever he needs to in order to feed his children.
If you think you can sit back and watch others suffer while you maintain your existing lifestyle, you are delusional. With hungry people heavily armed, the Police won't even be a speedbump on the way to your suburban hideaway. And you're old and weak.
We're all in this together, and when the spit hits the fan, we will all be splattered.

Oh, so its patriotic for me to have to pay for your inflated, union extorted salaries and benefits. I think its more patriotic for me to tell you to get off your fat a$$ and work hard for a fair wage dictated by the market and not by union thugs backed up by a corrupt US Labor Department.

[Fed Up with the Socialism]

old geezer wrote:

I find it interesting that our reps in DC are silent on this issue which involves sending maintenance work for military aircraft offshore

The military do their own overhaul and repair work. This is all commercial work. There will be no impact on the military because of this necessary business decision. What do people expect to happen when airlines don't order new airplanes. No orders, no revenue. No revenue, reduce costs. Layoff workers or move jobs to Georgia and Asia. Are any of the workers at Cheshire prevented form going to Georgia?

[Tom]

Bingo, Fed Up.

P & W sent yet another wake up call to the 1942 ish style of thinking.