Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

[NobodyYouKnow]

Mothra wrote:

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28 models? Please do tell.
I've been looking for info about climate models.

And you obvioulsy haven't been looking hard or in the sciences.

A quick read of the IPCC reports would have clued you in. Must be your blinders..

[I Am DigitaP]

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

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And you obvioulsy haven't been looking hard or in the sciences.
A quick read of the IPCC reports would have clued you in. Must be your blinders..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/64...

[thinkforyourself]

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

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And you obvioulsy haven't been looking hard or in the sciences.
A quick read of the IPCC reports would have clued you in. Must be your blinders..

Yeah the IPCC now there's a none bias source.......lol

[thinkforyourself]

suzanne wrote:

I believe the entire Global Warming is a Hoax. This is not about the enviroment But, Control and Taxes. This is an easy way for the Governments to collect more revenue. What we need to do is stop creating so much garbage. This actually does worry me. When I was a kid in a family of 5 we had 1 small aluminum garbage can and their was no recycling. We did however return our glass bottles to the store. Today my neighborhood is filled with huge plastic 55gal garbage cans. On average I would say each household has at least 2 cans, plus their recycling bins and most important Their Pile Of huge items like appliances, old cabinets, tile, carpeting ect. I am amazed every week at how much garbage is thrown out each and every week. We have become a throw away society. People dont keep things the way they used to. My parents to this day have the same furniture from when I was a kid. Yes, they have had the couch, chairs ect re-upholstered but the actual wood frame ect. is still all their. My mothers refridgerator just stopped working last year. She had the receipt it was from 1978,(yes I know it wasnt energy efficient). Nowdays I dont have one friend or neighbor that keeps their furniture for longer than 12-15yrs. It seems every week on garbage day I see more and more huge items thrown out. This is what I feel needs to be done. We need to start making things that last and stop being a disposable society. We need to end using disposable diapers (my neighbor next door just told me she goes through aprox 60+ disposable diapers a week. WHOA !! Then I think that doesnt include the wipes and the bag she uses to put the diaper in. Thats just one baby. It seems every ad on tv now states just use it and throw it away. This in my opinion is what needs to stop!! We are a throw away society and this is what the problem is. If I see one more family at the dollar store say to their kids "just pick out 3 things" and the kids get 3 toys use them for the day or weekend and then the parents throw them out !! Think about it. Look at all the packaging that is used just in food. This is what the problem is. We

If they truely cared about the enviroment and weren't looking for more control over people and industry they would offer the technology to decrease carbon emission and not simply tax people and businesses energy useage. And Algore wouldn't be using 20 times the amount of energy the average person uses in a year every month if he believed what he's saying.

[Earthling]

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

Ahh, yes. How thoughful. And the answer to getting dirty is to develop clean mud.

That was done many years ago by a guy called John Innes.

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

And the answer to disease is to develop benign bacteria.

Nature developed that already.

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

Now why didn't I think of that!

Because you probably didn't know it's happening, even though it's simple biology.

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

End of sarcasm. If we 'cleaned' up fossil fuels, they would no longer be 'cheap energy'. Regardless of whether you COULD turn them into 'clean green' fuels.

As there's no such thing as, "cheap energy" and that renewable energy isn't cheap, you may be surprised if cleaner fossil fuel is developed.

[litesong]

RayOne wrote:

I am the government.
Give me your children.

Native Tribes agree to euro & transplanted euro atrocities.

[Mothra]

NobodyYouKnow wrote:

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And you obvioulsy haven't been looking hard or in the sciences.
A quick read of the IPCC reports would have clued you in. Must be your blinders..

I wasn't asking for information about who interprets the models, but rather the models themselves.

Based on your snarky reply, I question your assertion that 28 models actually do exist.

Please provide information about them.

[Mothra]

thinkforyourself wrote:

<quoted text>If they truely cared about the enviroment and weren't looking for more control over people and industry they would offer the technology to decrease carbon emission and not simply tax people and businesses energy useage. And Algore wouldn't be using 20 times the amount of energy the average person uses in a year every month if he believed what he's saying.

But.. but.. but Al Gore is buying carbon credits of offset his usage!

[Mothra]

litesong wrote:

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Native Tribes agree to euro & transplanted euro atrocities.

Please... the next time your prescription runs low, take a pill.

Posting here won't get you relief.

[I Am DigitaP]

thinkforyourself wrote:

<quoted text>Yeah the IPCC now there's a none bias source.......lol

We looked. When we looked again we found Mannian Statistics, Mannian Fisiks, and Jim Hansen's bale-eyed oblivousness to realities.

Like the 71 Global Cooling Scare reality
Like the 88 Global Warming Scare reality
Like the 2005 "98 Warmest U.S. Year! Then when corrected by an AMATEUR issuing a statement: the MAN who takes MONEY to KEEP: the National Temp: "Yeah well so, it doesn't really matter, anyway." You can N.O.T. make it up LoL.
2006: "it looks like...we're coming into an..El Nino, a - SUPER El NINo...[boiling Godzilla movie oceans, chunks of buildings flying past small mountains]

2008: Sunspots: "it looks like... Sunspots here ANY DAY.. coming on strongly and... probably, greater than average.." After three MONTHS of that, we enter the 6th lowest Sunspot Cycle in recorded so far..

We took a look at the people telling us the Maldives are sinking, and who held an underwater Cabinet meeting. LoL.

Oh yea: we've seen those clowns' cars, and we'll remember we set up the U.N. because they couldn't run things without it.

Now we see science in the hands of the second & third world. Have they checked Hansen and Mann's notoriously sloppy reputations?

No, we need to all agree to dismantle society.

LoL. No, cause if nothing else we'll be back to wooden boats and we know the English will go around scaring the shit out of people in them.

So your IPPC "Stamp of Approval" is stamped

D.E.N.I.E.D.

Your kooky scientists, who hide rather than notifying people on tv, radio etc, and "get you the news that's too sensitive for N.A.S.A. on our WEB SITE for cryin out loud.. although one of the guys RUNS part of NASA and the other one's his boy toy..

D.E.N.I.E.D.

Kooky Cults in general:

D.E.N.I.E.D.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/64...

[Florida]

Mothra wrote:

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But.. but.. but Al Gore is buying carbon credits of offset his usage!

buying carbon credits of offset his usage??

Gore buys his carbon off-sets from himself--the Generation Investment Management LLP, "an independent, private, owner-managed partnership established in 2004 with offices in London and Washington, D.C." of which he is both chairman and founding partner.

The Poison of Liberalism

[thinkforyourself]

I Am DigitaP wrote:

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We looked. When we looked again we found Mannian Statistics, Mannian Fisiks, and Jim Hansen's bale-eyed oblivousness to realities.
Like the 71 Global Cooling Scare reality
Like the 88 Global Warming Scare reality
Like the 2005 "98 Warmest U.S. Year! Then when corrected by an AMATEUR issuing a statement: the MAN who takes MONEY to KEEP: the National Temp: "Yeah well so, it doesn't really matter, anyway." You can N.O.T. make it up LoL.
2006: "it looks like...we're coming into an..El Nino, a - SUPER El NINo...[boiling Godzilla movie oceans, chunks of buildings flying past small mountains]
2008: Sunspots: "it looks like... Sunspots here ANY DAY.. coming on strongly and... probably, greater than average.." After three MONTHS of that, we enter the 6th lowest Sunspot Cycle in recorded so far..
We took a look at the people telling us the Maldives are sinking, and who held an underwater Cabinet meeting. LoL.
Oh yea: we've seen those clowns' cars, and we'll remember we set up the U.N. because they couldn't run things without it.
Now we see science in the hands of the second & third world. Have they checked Hansen and Mann's notoriously sloppy reputations?
No, we need to all agree to dismantle society.
LoL. No, cause if nothing else we'll be back to wooden boats and we know the English will go around scaring the shit out of people in them.
So your IPPC "Stamp of Approval" is stamped
D.E.N.I.E.D.
Your kooky scientists, who hide rather than notifying people on tv, radio etc, and "get you the news that's too sensitive for N.A.S.A. on our WEB SITE for cryin out loud.. although one of the guys RUNS part of NASA and the other one's his boy toy..
D.E.N.I.E.D.
Kooky Cults in general:
D.E.N.I.E.D.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/64...

Here's your word of today "sarcasm" look it up and read what I posted again.

[I Am DigitaP]

thinkforyourself wrote:

<quoted text> Here's your word of today "sarcasm" look it up and read what I posted again.

My bad, it was to dipstick up there who said we obviously didn't check the IPCC reports.

I'm having to work and type this week so I'm hurrying sorry.

[daytimedrama]

AL Gore puts off so much carbon dioxide in the air when he does speeches they have to put 4 full grown Redwoods next to him just to offset the effects his breath is having on global warming.

[Pachelbel]

Man Made Global Warming wrote:

The role of human activity in accelerating climate change is beyond doubt. The fourth assessment report (4AR) of the UN scientific body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), confirmed that an overwhelming majority of scientists now accept the impact of human (anthropogenic) activity on our climate and fear that, if left unchecked, this could lead to runaway warming.
While previous changes in the climate have been a result of natural causes alone, this is not true of the present warming. Current human behaviour is leading to global warming by accentuating the greenhouse effect.

Surely, since your are from Shirley, you must know Hand of God from Shirley. Or perhaps you are one and the same. In any case surely Shirley and the other Shirley are surely two peas in a pod.

[Pachelbel]

litesong wrote:

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AGW theory has accounted for solar cycles, even more accurately than you can ever calculate. Deniers, of course, demean decades of high science because deniers are.......deniers, people with republican, conservative TV, radio & propaganda websites background.
Again, I remind all deniers, AGW theory strengthened & solidified under 3 administrations that were business & energy oriented, receiving funding by those administrations. It has been demonstrated that the conservative administrations did not like the results of developing AGW science & took steps to turn & twist AGW conclusions. But the science could NOT be refuted & continued to strengthen. Deniers on these present topix AGW forums are only the last steps of dying denial.

You continue to have an excessively narrow view of the influence of the Sun. Even the small incremental changes you refer to have HISTORICALLY accounted for changes you would consider disproportionate. What I have read of solar effects on earths climate encompasses much more and with greater impact. The interaction on the Earth's geomagnetic field is one such area, feedbacks (I'm sure you know about those for AGW science) also come into play enhancing or weakening otherwise moderate shifts, etc.

[Pachelbel]

thinkforyourself wrote:

<quoted text> Here's your word of today "sarcasm" look it up and read what I posted again.

It takes a highly skilled writer to consistently carry off the subtleties of sarcasm in the written word. It's usually best to spell it out and avoid misunderstandings.

[Algore praise his name]

Oct 2009 according to NOAA:

The average October temperature of 50.8°F was 4.0°F below the 20th Century average and ranked as the 3rd coolest based on preliminary data.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/...

How many Leftist American Industry Hating Nut jobs are on this site anyway?

What is wrong with Nuclear Power again? Oh yes, Hanoi Jane did a movie about that as well. You creeps need to realize just because your favorite Leftist does a movie (Algore, Hanoi, or that Fat Slob Anti-American), doesn't make it the truth.

Get out, meet a Girl (or Guy), make money, and have fun. Quit all this envy of what other people have, which is really what this is, and live your lives.

[RayOne]

There are lots of haters out there. When they emerge, they call themselves new and earth changers. The net has a memory, until the cyberCzar gets his staff in place.
They have already scrubbed the history of Hassan, next week his actions will be known as the action of a disgruntled employee.

[I Am DigitaP]

Pachelbel wrote:

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It takes a highly skilled writer to consistently carry off the subtleties of sarcasm in the written word. It's usually best to spell it out and avoid misunderstandings.

Actually I'd grabbed the wrong guy's quote I apologized