NEOUCOM, UA, Akron hospitals could join together in multi-milli...

Preliminary talks among Northeast Ohio's public medical college, the University of Akron and Akron's three hospital systems could bring a multi-million-dollar medical training center to the city.

[misunderstood]

I think this would be a GREAT addition to AKRON!!

[Betamax]

Oh these guys are in luck. Currently Akron's city hall hero is runnin' a special on taxpayer owned buildin's in the downtown area.

For $1, they can be the proud owner a piece of property in the downtown area. And, as an added extra bonus, iff'n they are already in cahoots with the mayor, he will invest millions into the project for them, under the auspicious excuse that the city will be "preparin' the property" for the new facility.

[akronite]

betamax, i understand that you have the freedom of expression. however, whenever i read the posts and come to yours they're always negative. i mean, c'mon. can a person only see the negative in the situation? yes, the city of akron does some things which can be shady or wasteful. however, where would the city be if it hadn't done any of those things? i'm only 21, but i remember how there was absolutely nothing in the downtown area, and no one went there. as i have grown up, i have seen the downtown transform from a deserted shell, to a place where more people work, families come to go to restaurants or festivals or a baseball game. They're art galleries, coffeshops, nightclubs, etc. In chicago, the old mayor daley did even worse things, dealings with mobs being one of them, but he is celebrated in chicago as being one that helped chicago escape becoming a rust city like the rest of the midwest. even look at his son, he is seen as just as bad, minus mob connections, but is celebrated as bringing chicago into the new millenium and prosperity. you need to look at the whole picture when you look at a city's development, i've worked in downtown akron at a restaurant and at a youth camp at joy park, yes there are some problems there and the city should focus some more police to those areas, but i have noticed one thing that i don't think you understand, there are people in akron who are trying to create a stronger community, whether that be the city council or the mayor or the developers or even the old women who volunteer at the community centers. every time you open your mouth and only spout negative comments without looking at all aspects of the community and the wide range of people trying to create an akron we all can be proud of, you belittle yourself and you make people who read the comments from different parts of the country or world not want to come to akron or invest in akron.

[The Real Deal]

There goes that terrible University of Akron again. Spreading its cancerous growth by bringing state of the art health care and academics to our city. How dare they?

[Listen Please]

I think this would be great for Akron. They also need to partner with Akron Public Schools and their various programs like nursing, emt, etc. This would keep more of our graduates here and help remedy the nursing shortage and grow the Akron economy.

[Betamax]

akronite wrote:

betamax, i understand that you have the freedom of expression. however, whenever i read the posts and come to yours they're always negative. i mean, c'mon. can a person only see the negative in the situation? yes, the city of akron does some things which can be shady or wasteful. however, where would the city be if it hadn't done any of those things? i'm only 21, but i remember how there was absolutely nothing in the downtown area, and no one went there. as i have grown up, i have seen the downtown transform from a deserted shell, to a place where more people work, families come to go to restaurants or festivals or a baseball game. They're art galleries, coffeshops, nightclubs, etc. In chicago, the old mayor daley did even worse things, dealings with mobs being one of them, but he is celebrated in chicago as being one that helped chicago escape becoming a rust city like the rest of the midwest. even look at his son, he is seen as just as bad, minus mob connections, but is celebrated as bringing chicago into the new millenium and prosperity. you need to look at the whole picture when you look at a city's development, i've worked in downtown akron at a restaurant and at a youth camp at joy park, yes there are some problems there and the city should focus some more police to those areas, but i have noticed one thing that i don't think you understand, there are people in akron who are trying to create a stronger community, whether that be the city council or the mayor or the developers or even the old women who volunteer at the community centers. every time you open your mouth and only spout negative comments without looking at all aspects of the community and the wide range of people trying to create an akron we all can be proud of, you belittle yourself and you make people who read the comments from different parts of the country or world not want to come to akron or invest in akron.

((chucklin')) Oh gosh, 21 and worldly. What will they think of next.

Sorry kiddo, but until y'all have spent a lifetime of payin' taxes and then watchin' them frittered away on usless projects that don't bring a return on the investment, and still are an advocate for the waste, then y'all can have that sort of opinion.

Downtown Akron hasn't changed much in the last 15 years, so y'all must have had a photographic memery from the womb, to recall downtown ever bein' vacant.

Downtown Akron has little to offer beyond a few bars. The spaghetti warehouse probably draws in more folks than all of the other venues altogether.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the only folks that are currently investin' into Akron, are the ones that get sum-thin' for nuthin'. Those folks will always flock, like a newbe on welfare, to the freebee's.

[The Big Lebowski]

Don't listen to Betamax. The closest he gets to downtown Akron is the Erie Station Grille in Tallmadge.

[Dr Kavorkavinker]

Beta should move in next door to OMGrump, that would an interesting site.
They could sit around drinkin' beer, and talk about mayor Don. Then slap the hell out of each other before they go to bed each night.

[JUST AN OBSERVER]

ON THE SURFACE THIS SURE SOUNDS NICE. SO DID BASS PRO SHOPS, THE TAX INCREASE FOR POLICE, AND PROBEBLY OTHERS, WHICH ESCAPE MEMORY. SO, MY CINACLE SIDE REARS IT'S UGLY HEAD TO ASK - WHAT'S THIS GOING TO COST, AND RETURN TO, TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF AKRON ?

[MJJ]

thats kwy they are practicing...

[go figure]

Betamax wrote:

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((chucklin')) Oh gosh, 21 and worldly. What will they think of next.
Sorry kiddo, but until y'all have spent a lifetime of payin' taxes and then watchin' them frittered away on usless projects that don't bring a return on the investment, and still are an advocate for the waste, then y'all can have that sort of opinion.
Downtown Akron hasn't changed much in the last 15 years, so y'all must have had a photographic memery from the womb, to recall downtown ever bein' vacant.
Downtown Akron has little to offer beyond a few bars. The spaghetti warehouse probably draws in more folks than all of the other venues altogether.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the only folks that are currently investin' into Akron, are the ones that get sum-thin' for nuthin'. Those folks will always flock, like a newbe on welfare, to the freebee's.

I'm a little older than 21, amigo, and you are an outright liar.

First of all, for most of the 1980's, and into the early 90s', downtown was almost completely deserted, except for a couple of small stores, government offices and a small library, art musem, and 2 struggling hotels. Block after block was boarded up and vacant.

Not so anymore. Almost every week, new businesses are opening all over downtown, offering everything from live entertainment to cleaning services.

To say otherwise is a blatant, provable falsehood.

Second, the folks investing in downtown akron are taking a rather large risk. It isn't easy to revitalize an area once it's depressed (especially against a tide of naysayers like you) but a hearty band of developers have ventured forth in partnering with city government to make it happen.

You can croak and creak all you want to about waste and such, but in the end it is the developers, city hall, and business patrons who are making it happen.

The real waste is the likes of you.

[Tularecito]

Betamax wrote:

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((chucklin')) Oh gosh, 21 and worldly. What will they think of next.
Sorry kiddo, but until y'all have spent a lifetime of payin' taxes and then watchin' them frittered away on usless projects that don't bring a return on the investment, and still are an advocate for the waste, then y'all can have that sort of opinion.
Downtown Akron hasn't changed much in the last 15 years, so y'all must have had a photographic memery from the womb, to recall downtown ever bein' vacant.
Downtown Akron has little to offer beyond a few bars. The spaghetti warehouse probably draws in more folks than all of the other venues altogether.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the only folks that are currently investin' into Akron, are the ones that get sum-thin' for nuthin'. Those folks will always flock, like a newbe on welfare, to the freebee's.

You're vision must be getting worse as you age if you can't see the changes in downtown Akron over the last 15 years.

[Idiot Police]

Betamax wrote:

Downtown Akron hasn't changed much in the last 15 years, so y'all must have had a photographic memery from the womb, to recall downtown ever bein' vacant.

How stupid you are. Downtown has VERY MUCH changed in the past 15 years. 15 years ago, Downtown was pretty much vacant and boarded up from Exchange to Market.

It is NOT the case now. STFU BetaMoron. You were proven wrong once again. But being the old, ignorant and stubborn black male that you are who thinks you're always right, you'll backpeddle your way out of this one too. Only to make yourself even more ignorant than you already are.

And I won't bother checking back to see what chucklin' response you put forth.

[Betamax]

go figure wrote:

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I'm a little older than 21, amigo, and you are an outright liar.
First of all, for most of the 1980's, and into the early 90s', downtown was almost completely deserted, except for a couple of small stores, government offices and a small library, art musem, and 2 struggling hotels. Block after block was boarded up and vacant.
Not so anymore. Almost every week, new businesses are opening all over downtown, offering everything from live entertainment to cleaning services.
To say otherwise is a blatant, provable falsehood.
Second, the folks investing in downtown akron are taking a rather large risk. It isn't easy to revitalize an area once it's depressed (especially against a tide of naysayers like you) but a hearty band of developers have ventured forth in partnering with city government to make it happen.
You can croak and creak all you want to about waste and such, but in the end it is the developers, city hall, and business patrons who are making it happen.
The real waste is the likes of you.

((chucklin')) Alas, yet another cheerleader for city hall.

Any-buddy who has spent any amount of time downtown knows that there was quite a bit more than y'alls doom and gloom example, i.e.{{except for a couple of small stores, government offices and a small library, art musem, and 2 struggling hotels}}

Durin the 70's and 80's the city was on a campaign to buy up real estate in the downtown area, those of which they did, they raised the rents to the then current occupants and drove them out of the downtown area, ergo creatin' y'alls empty properties. Since then they have either sat on the properties, sold them for a song to friends, or tore them down and planted grass.

I have no problem with redevelopement, except when the taxpayers have to foot the bill. Downtown has cost the taxpayers over $500 million since the city hall hero has taken charge, as well as the city havin' their bond ratin' reduced because of the city hall hero's spendin' habits.

Today, we have a ballpark that rarely gets filled, and we're still payin for it, a new library for the homeless to frequent ( more folks went to the main branch when it was on tallmadge av ), a new museum that's quickly lost it's charm, and a few new bars for the college crowd to frequent ( and those have been comin' and goin' quick often lately ).

Keep beatin' them pompoms, it's the only thing y'all have goin' for y'alls argument.

[Betamax]

Tularecito wrote:

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You're vision must be getting worse as you age if you can't see the changes in downtown Akron over the last 15 years.

((chucklin')) And y'all best check y'alls psych medicines iff'n y'all think what's there is a vast improvement. There isn't.

What I see is an $800 million + debt with little to show for it for the taxpayer investment.

[Tularecito]

Betamax wrote:

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((chucklin')) And y'all best check y'alls psych medicines iff'n y'all think what's there is a vast improvement. There isn't.
What I see is an $800 million + debt with little to show for it for the taxpayer investment.

"Downtown Akron hasn't changed much in the last 15 years..."

That's what you said in your post and that's what I was commenting on.

Whether or not you think it's a good change wasn't my point, moreso that downtown has changed dramatically.

[True Patriot]

Tularecito wrote:

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"Downtown Akron hasn't changed much in the last 15 years..."
That's what you said in your post and that's what I was commenting on.
Whether or not you think it's a good change wasn't my point, moreso that downtown has changed dramatically.

You have just experienced a classic "Beta N' Switch" move. He makes a comment, you respond to it, and then he changes the subject.

[Meg]

Newman wrote:

<quoted text>I agree. They should knock down Garfield High and put it there. The kids there only walk around and start fights and smoke pot. They break into vacant garages and smoke pot as it happened to my neighbor. That is a bad school! Plus that site is close to Akron U.

You need to look up the address to Garfield High School, in Firestone Park. Not as close as you think.

[Betamax]

Tularecito wrote:

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"Downtown Akron hasn't changed much in the last 15 years..."
That's what you said in your post and that's what I was commenting on.
Whether or not you think it's a good change wasn't my point, moreso that downtown has changed dramatically.

Let me clarify for y'all then, to me, change means improvement. I haven't seen any improvements, jes' more of the same.

The biggest change is the city's debt.

[Tularecito]

Betamax wrote:

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Let me clarify for y'all then, to me, change means improvement. I haven't seen any improvements, jes' more of the same.
The biggest change is the city's debt.

So by your definition, the city's debt has improved. Try reading what you write once in a while.