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Renter in Penn Township
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I understand the saftey issue, but what about carbon monoxide detectors in housing with combustables such as natural gas or oil. The registration and inspection fees are too high and they are just going to be passed onto the tenant. With gas costing around $3.50 a gallon I don't know how the Commissioners think we are going to come up with the extra money. Good ole Penn Township going after the little man!!!
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Dan
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Excellent work Penn Township! Proof of citizenship should also be required for all renters.
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Landlord
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I warned all of you on the York Springs post. Less rights and in your pocket again. We're getting more like the Soviet Union all the time.
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Penn Township Landlord
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This is extremely outragous! We are property owners of 7 apartments in Penn Township. If Penn Township thinks we are just made of money to be able to constantly have to pay these outragous fees you are way off the mark. We try to keep our rents reasonable for the tenants but you make us have to continously increase the rent to break even. I live in a home that has 5 acres I pay less taxes on this property than I do on the apartments. OUTRAGOUS!! I make sure my tenants are safe w/smoke detectors & make sure the apartments are clean to live in. No wonder people say Penn Township is like living in a dictatorship township. Just we need another tax that was not approved by the residents/landowners of Penn Township
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concerned landlord
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I am just absolutely appalled at the fact that the Penn Township government can due this to the property owners . The economy is straining all of our budgets and now they are reaching into your pockets again . When will this nonsense stop ! I say lets hold a genereal election and vote on it or just plain fire all of these tax and spend idiots . Vote them all out and start over come on people lets send these idiots a message !!!!
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Harry Smith
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I support the rental property inspections. I live near several rental units and have to put up with the loud noise, the litter, the unsupervised brats, and the related crime. Meanwhile the landlords collect the cash and live a happy life far from the problems they create. Good job Penn Twp.
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and your point
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How do you think it is that fire and safety inspections will eliminate the loud noise, the "brats" as you call them, the crime and the litter? The inspection is held once a year so 364 days you are still left to deal with all of the above. It makes no sense to me whatsoever how ANYONE can agree to ANY MORE TAXES then we ALL are facing already, unless your pockets are lined with gold??? If that is the case, how about I give you $5 for every inspection and reinspection YOU pay for out of your pocket?? Deal?? I mean come on....if you are foolish enough to believe the inspections will eliminate what makes you "pro-Inspection".... .then you have to be foolish enough to accept my offer. I say....NO TAXES, VOTE NEW PEOPLE INTO OFFICE AND BOOT THESE MONEY HUNGRY VULTURES OUT. Noone has any compassion for anyone anymore and it's sickening. Here's a thought for you to ponder awhile...when the landlord sticks the tenant for the inspection fees via raised rents....you'll really see the trash piling up.........as they won't be able to afford trash removal. You need to realize, most tenants are strapped for cash as it is, hence the reason most are renting to begin with. The more you TAKE from renters......the less they will GIVE, that is a certainty. Your reason for WANTING inspections is out of anger toward YOUR neighboring renters..........but the inspections don't only apply to the landlord of the building housing the tenants YOU have the problem with. If it's as unruly as you say it is.....report them over and over until someone does something but don't you dare take your frustration with a group of tenants and one landlord and think for a second this is okay for ALL TENANTS and ALLL LANDLORDS in the area. That is selfish if I've ever seen it. But then again..your obviously just one more man who thinks nothing of noone but YOU, YOU, and YOU. That is the jist of what I personally got out of your post. Harry Smith wrote: I support the rental property inspections. I live near several rental units and have to put up with the loud noise, the litter, the unsupervised brats, and the related crime. Meanwhile the landlords collect the cash and live a happy life far from the problems they create. Good job Penn Twp.
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Fred
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I agree with and your point is. What I don't understand is that the voters didn't see through the men running for Commissioner in the last election.
I seen this coming and if you think this is the end of it your very wrong! There is going to be a lot more that will come to light and it won't be long before everyone will see that every promise that was made was only a ploy to get elected to office.
Now that their in office we the working people will have to pay and keep paying until we can vote these guys out of office and get people voted in that Honestly care about the people of Penn Township.
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Pennsygal
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This can't help but keep landlords more honest--especially absentee landlords who are often the worst offenders--no offense, B'moreans. I know a single parent family with small children, who can't get their landlord to repair anything, despite promises. The roof leaks and windows need to be repaired or replaced. I wish their township had Penn's forward thinking. And by the way--Penn's ruling passed unanimously and with no comment. Where were all you landlords crying foul?
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Pennsygal
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I've lived on a street that changed to about 25 percent rental properties. Landlords charged a pretty penny for people to live in the rentals because this was supposedly a "desirable" neighborhood, but they did not maintain their properties or seem to have their tenants do upkeep. It didn't take long for those houses and yards to be unfit. For the thousands $$ that investment landlords make in profit, Penn's $30 inspection fee is a drop in the bucket. Boo Hoo.
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what a joke
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So are landlords responsible for making sure there is toilet paper in the bathroom and food on the table too? This expense will get passed right on to my tenants. How long until someone is crying that there is no affordable rentals in the area?????$50 and $30 is no big fee but if these inspectors are anything like the idiot crew the township currently has this is going to be a real joke. Hats off to Penn Township for coming one step closer to a communist government.
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Jerry
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The article states there were no comments or concerns when they passed the ordinance. Was the public unaware of the meeting? I think the posters against the ordinance weren't invited!
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what a joke
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Harry,
You are dead on "and your point". I do hope you realize Harry that this will not fix the problem with crime or brats that are loud. It will only increase the rent so you will probably be getting new neighbors a lot more often.
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knew this was coming
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Pennsygal,
Obviously you don't know what mortgage payments, insurance and taxes cost. If you have a short term loan (15 years or less) you probably aren't making any profit on your rental. And I hope you aren't naive enough to think that $30 is all landlords will pay when it's all said and done. That fee will increase each year and who knows what these yahoo's will "find" that needs to be fixed. It will start out as fire detectors and soon they will be making sure your steps are ADA compliant and that your carpet is replaced every 3 years. Just wait and see. I know how Penn Township is and when I see P Township written anywhere I think the P stands for pricks.
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what a joke
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Pennsygal,
For every bad landlord there are 10 bad tenants that trash your place and you should see how hard it is in some areas to kick tenants out. In some areas it can take months to get rid of someone that isn't paying rent and trashing your house. You seem to be anti landlord for some reason but without us where would people that can't or don't want to buy a house live? Why does no one care if I have a fire detector in my own house? If you have a landlord that isn't fixing up his place MOVE and get one that does. You can't pick your parents but you do have some say in your landlord.
If every landlord from the township showed up at that meeting it wouldn't have changed a thing. The township is going to be rolling in the money on these inspections and local businesses will profit from the "forced" work that will need to be done. Just like everything else Penn Township is moving in the wrong direction and making poor decisions. If people care about their safety and their family's safety they should hit Walmart and pay for a smoke detector and pass on the cigs that month.
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Always There
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What a Joke is the correct name when you match a safety issue such as toilet paper to a smoke alarm. I ceratinly don't like the fee for registration of rental property and don't belive that probably wa son the mind of the fire department but more of a safety issue or courtesy inspection. Since when did the lack of toilet paper cause the life of a resident in Penn Township?
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what a joke
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It was a joke but there are tons of safety issues and when will they be addressed and how much will that cost me? Anytime something like this is started it only gets out of hand. The door is open now and the fees will increase and what is "up to date" will change and soon I'll have to build a bus pad so the kids of my tenants are safe waiting for the bus. What about carbon monoxide, radon, mold and second hand smoke coming through the window. I'm telling you this got Penn Township in the door and things will only go downhill from here.
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what a joke
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Always There,
A friend of mine owns a rental property in MD and they started this BS years ago in that town. It was to save the life of a child but guess what, last summer he had to miss work to talk with an inspector and he had a spouting that was rusty that needed to be replaced, needed stones added to the driveway and had other repairs to fix that were CAUSED by the tenants. I believe his final repair cost was around $400 because he couldn't make all the repairs himself he had to hire someone. For those of you that aren't landlords this sounds like a great thing because they wrap these BS inspections around child safety. If you can afford a cell phone and cable and internet then you can afford a smoke detector without having some yearly inspection take place. Smoke detectors will be the first thing on the checklist but only one of about 100 things.
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wakeupPeeps
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The meetings are advertised with the content, so landlords would have had notice. Again they chose not to participate but complain on here after the fact. Boo-hoo and remember this is for safety of tenants and if you slum lords cant afford 30.00 a year hmmmm - lets break that 30.00 into 52 weeks??? wow .58 per week plus its a legal tax write off. Maybe since now the tennants can have a better home and safer since the one I live in never gets anything repaired when I contact my landlord so I am for the fire chief and commissioners good job guys we and our family will vote for you all again. THANK YOU Jerry wrote: The article states there were no comments or concerns when they passed the ordinance. Was the public unaware of the meeting? I think the posters against the ordinance weren't invited!
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what a joke
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Is anyone familiar with the idiotic resident inspectors we currently have in Penn Township? Some of the violations my neighbors and I have received in the past:
1. Leaving tree limbs curbside (stockpiling). This happens every year when people put out their limbs a few days too early or when the pick up crew starts before the date posted in the newsletter. So basically the Township wants to fine you for putting limbs out that they told you to put out.
2. Grass or weeds growing in the crack between the road and curb. This crack is caused by poor construction when the road was built. It's a visual hazard to have grass growing in a crack in the road but apparently having RV's and boats sitting in your backyard looks good.
3. Driving along the grass off the shoulder of the road when you try to get off a busy roadway and into your driveway. The violation letters usually come in mid winter and give you a few weeks to establish grass.
This is the type of BS you get from our current crop of inspectors so I can only imagine what's coming with these new house inspections.
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