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Should Flouride be Forced on Water Supply? : WFMZ-TV 69News

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Donna

Bethlehem, PA

#1 Dec 3, 2007
I wish it was in our water so my son wouldn't have had to go for oral surgery when he was only 4 years old. I'm from NJ so I had no idea that he needed to take a flouride supplement and apparently the pediatricians are clueless around here too because I know 3 other children who's teeth rotted due to no flouride. I have been giving my 2 year old daughter flouride drops since she was 6 months old - wish I knew about the drops when my son was little.
Jason

Rice, MN

#3 Dec 3, 2007
Donna, you must be confusing "fluoride" with an essential vitamin or mineral.
Fluoride is neither; in fact, it is fluorosilcic acid (known in chemistry terms as H2SiF6), and no living person or animal is "fluoride deficient."
If you believe something must be added to the public water system to improve health, then why not start with something a little more useful than rat poison.
Danny

United States

#4 Dec 3, 2007
To: ALL with ‘Common Sense’ about keeping our drinking Waters CLEAN & SAFE.

URGENT!
Know that the actual 'illicit chemical cocktail' that is ‘corruptly sold’ by phosphate chemical corporations to 10’s of 1000’s of government regulated municipal water treatment plants all over North America is an USA-EPA [Environmental Protection Agency]'Regulated Potential Pollutant' of Air, Water and Land that is currently derived from primarily the Phosphate ore mining & processing industries ‘HAPS’ units [e.g. Hazardous Air Pollution Scrubbers], and as ‘Silicofluoride’ is regulatorily classified by EPA as a 'Class 1 ..'HAZARDOUS WASTE'.

Politically appointed USA-EPA highest management is primarily in ‘political complicity’ to allow Silicofluorides to be sold and metered into our precious USA drinking waters. However, recently around 7,000+ EPA professional CAREER ‘non-politically hired’ Scientists, Toxicologists, Chemists, and professional field health workers signed a Petition to EPA top Management requesting ‘fluoridation’ be stopped. Read the PR Announcement at:
http://www.world-wire.com/news/0830050001.htm...
Anita Knight

Clearwater, FL

#5 Dec 3, 2007
The chemistry of element: Fluorine, should be taught in school. The nature of this halogen gas, the most reactive of all elements, will combine with most, exception being calcium and alkalines, that in high dietary levels will form insoluble complexes and unabsorbable from the gastrointestinal tract. Dental fluorosis is occurring 22-84%, from mild, to moderate and severe, and cavities form in these weakened teeth (ref. Health Effects of Ingested Fluoride, 1993, National Academy of Sciences report for Congress).
Two important combinations that result from commercial grade Fluorosilicic Acid, and are concerns of EPA and now scientists are: EPA nominated Aluminum-fluoride for neurological studies, and the second one on PubMed: "Neurotoxicology. Sept. 28, 2007, "Effects of fluoridation and disinfection agent combinations on lead leaching from leaded-brass parts".
If anyone really thinks they need fluorides, buy soft drinks like Coca-Cola.(ref. Journal of Dental Research, Special Issue, Worldwide Symposium on Fluorides, Vol. 69, Feb. 1990, page 827).
For your edification, please request the standard for fluorides used in your area from the utilities dept. or from your library using Interlibrary load system.
Blue sky

United States

#6 Dec 3, 2007
And how do you control the dosage - the amount of water you or a child drinks? How many other sources are you getting flouride from? MANY studies indicate flouride is a threat to health, promotes disease and in reality does not prevent tooth decay. Do a little research. http://www.mercola.com/2004/jun/9/fluoride_de...
Why have European countries banned the use of flouride?
http://www.mercola.com/2002/sep/18/europe_flu...
http://www.isecureonline.com/Reports/600SCTDF...
Ever read the warning label on your tube of toothpaste? It's about time you did. If you add flouride to the water it should have the same warning label: Harmful if swallowed.
Patty

Jamison, PA

#7 Dec 4, 2007
Fluoride should not be forced on us! It is criminal to try to mass medicate us. First of all, its effectiveness has NOT been proven. Second, it has been outlawed for infants. Third, it has side effects such as dental fluorosis, cancer and bone deterioration. We all drink different amounts of water, so how can you put a medication in our water supply and expect it to work properly?
joe

Elizabeth, NJ

#8 Dec 4, 2007
We have fluoride in our water and
try everything possible to filter
the water before using it.

Since: Mar 07

Mount Bethel, PA

#9 Dec 4, 2007
I have my own well and there is no fluoride in our water...my kids had no dental bills growing up, and Dr. always commented on how strong the dentin on their teeth was...they are parents now and their kids do not have fluoride in their well water either...

Donna, I have to ask what kind of diet your kids are on and what as put in their bottles besides formula...I see a lot of mothers actually putting soda, kool-aid, juice w/high sugar contents...and then blaming dental decay on other things...
Alaina

Ellwood City, PA

#10 Dec 4, 2007
I am adult who drank drinking water containing fluoride water from birth to age 30 when I moved to a town without fluride in the water. Unfortunately, the damage is done: I have mild, permanent dental fluorosis. If fluoride is put in the water, I will be purchasing a reverse osmosis filter to take it out of my water to minimize my childrens' risk of developing dental fluorisis.

Donna, this is from the ADA website:
"Parents and caregivers should carefully monitor the use of all fluoride-containing dental products by children under age six because ingestion of higher than recommended levels of fluoride by children has been associated with an increased risk of very mild to mild dental fluorosis, in developing, unerupted teeth. This type of fluorosis is a cosmetic effect with no known health consequences.

To get the optimal benefits of fluoride, place only a pea-sized amount of fluoride toothpaste on a young child's toothbrush at each brushing. Young children should be supervised while brushing and taught to spit out, rather than swallow, the toothpaste. Consult with your child's dentist or physician if you are considering using fluoride toothpaste before the child reaches age two. Additionally, the use of fluoride mouth rinses is not recommended for children under six years of age because they may swallow the rinse."

If fluoride is so safe, why the warning on toothpaste? Because, toothpaste with fluoride can be fatal if swallowed.

The warning on fluoridated toothpaste states "Keep out of the reach of children under 6 years of age. If more than used for brushing is accidently swallowed, get medical help or contact a Poison Control Center right away."

Be careful with your children. In addition, the American Dental Association now recommends infants now not be given formula made with fluoridated water. They even suggest using water from reverse osmosis:
"But fluoride intake above optimal amounts creates a risk for enamel fluorosis as teeth develop before they erupt through the gums. The ADA’s interim guidance contains recommendations to simply and effectively reduce fluoride intake from infant formula reconstituted with water containing fluoride.

Water labeled as purified, distilled, deionized, demineralized, or produced through reverse osmosis is known to be low in fluoride. Most other types of bottled water contain low fluoride concentrations but variations exist and some brands may contain optimal or higher levels. If you have questions about the fluoride content in the bottled water you use, check the label or contact the bottler."

I hope for your sake your 2-year old daughter doesn't develop dental fluorosis from too much fluoride intake. Please educate yourself on this topic; you may be surprised on what you find.

Since: Mar 07

Mount Bethel, PA

#11 Dec 4, 2007
Alaina....Thanks for all that great info....Water labeled "spring water" has NO fluoride in it....and if one would take notice, as I have grandbabies too, pediatricians do not tell parents anymore (not ours anyway, to give the babies fluoride drops like they used to.
Dubious Maximus

Weslaco, TX

#12 Dec 4, 2007
The FDA warning on fluoride toothpaste tells parents to "contact a Poison Control Center immediately" if their child swallows more than a pea-sized amount of toothpaste. The CDC says there's a mere quarter milligram of fluoride in that dab of toothpaste. That's the same dose of fluoride in about only ONE CUP of fluoridated water!

Insist that any legislator favoring mandatory water fluoridation explain how it can be safe to swallow fluoride when it's in water, but poisonous to swallow the same amount of fluoride when it's in toothpaste.
Dubious Maximus

Weslaco, TX

#13 Dec 4, 2007
The Safe Drinking Water Act says , "No national primary drinking water regulation may require addition of any substance for preventive health care purposes unrelated to contamination of drinking water."

If the feds (and common sense) tell us it's not safe to put meds in our drinking water, why is the state trying to do so?
Tom Petrie

New Canaan, CT

#14 Dec 5, 2007
I've been studying the fluoride issue for over 30 years now and something has crossed my mind that I'd lilke to share with you. First, most folks who have an opinion have spent barely ANY time studying the issue and if they are favorable to the measure, can change their minds once they study the issue further. In other words--they're open minded ( http://tompetrie.net/id14.html--on being a great thinker).

So if you want to know how dangerous fluorides really are and why artificial fluoridation should NOT be implemented--anywhere, please click this link: http://tompetrie.net/id6.html .

Good luck and happy studying!

Tom Petrie,
Nutritionist

Since: Mar 07

Mount Bethel, PA

#15 Dec 5, 2007
Tom Petrie wrote:
I've been studying the fluoride issue for over 30 years now and something has crossed my mind that I'd lilke to share with you. First, most folks who have an opinion have spent barely ANY time studying the issue and if they are favorable to the measure, can change their minds once they study the issue further. In other words--they're open minded ( http://tompetrie.net/id14.html--on being a great thinker).
So if you want to know how dangerous fluorides really are and why artificial fluoridation should NOT be implemented--anywhere, please click this link: http://tompetrie.net/id6.html .
Good luck and happy studying!
Tom Petrie,
Nutritionist
Thanks alot..Linked you into "my favorites" for more then one reason...
Janet Reed Pettit

Jacksonville Beach, FL

#16 Dec 5, 2007
Any city contemplating adding fluuoride to their water system should also consider the possibility of being the recipient of what is mounting as the mother of all class action lawsuits against those cities who have deliberately added an untested, cumulative, toxic, unrefined substance more hazardous than lead that even our federal Health Dept reminds us can be detrimental to the unhealthy, the elderly and the very young and the CDC has warned should not be used in infant formulas. Water should be safe for everyone.

How do you defend against ignoring the Nuremburgh Code which prohibits experimenting without the consent of the experimentee since no animal nor human studies have ever been done on the silicofluorides used in fuoridation and no one has the right to force another to bathe in a chemical which is easily absorbed through the skin, let alone having to drink it?

How do you defend against putting a prescription medication into the public water supply defying the medical profession's law to fit the dose to the person yet declare that the substance competely safe for all to take for a lifetime and in unregulated amounts in defience of the Health Dept.'s and the CDC's own admission defying this decree of safety ?

How do you defend against the law which states that any manufacturer who sells a product (water has been declared a "product") which has the potential to harm its consumers (see: USPHS and CDC statements above) must warn those consumers? What if these cnsumers have no financial wherewithall to protect themselves from its dangers?

What community wants to take the chance that they won't be sued by those who have their teeth permanently damaged requiring thousands of dollars in repair work when their teeth begin to crumble, erupt with no enamel or are permanently stained?

How can they justify adding fluoride when there are valid scientific data showing that incidences of bone cancers are up to 7 tiimes higher, violent crime and ADHD are 2 and a half times higher in fluoridated areas, and Alzheimers can be shown to be caused by the combination of aluminum and fluoride?

How can any ethical public official in good conscience take the chance of destroying the health of some of their most vulnerable citizens? Are they prepared to undo the damage to every affected water consumer??
Gene Burke

United States

#17 Dec 5, 2007
The U.S. EPA has acknowledged they can identify NOT ONE long-term study that verifies toxicologically the health safety or effectiveness for any of the fluoridation products.
That's just part it. NONE of the perceived "health authorities" promoting fluoridation can find such a study either. That includes the CDC, ADA, Dept of Health and Human Services, et al.
How come? Amazingly, because such a study does not exist.
Does the public know this? No. Why not? Mainstream media with all of its enormous talent and investigative resources have not checked this out and exposed it ((yet?).
Could it be that simple? In my view,YES.
G.Burke
Environmental Health Specialist
Santa Monica, CA

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