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Rica firme has become a BUISNESS...I got to admit it is a good buisness for the people that work there...the pastor is like the CEO...they do make good money of their followers....but if they r conftrable giving their money to their "church" then I guess that is their buisness...as for me I give what I can to my church which is Sacred Heart...atleast I know where my money goes...to the church itself...with all the money people at rica firme have donated I am surprised they still preach out of a bodega...but the pastor sure lives good....that's buisness for you
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member wrote:
look, everyone has they're own opinions about our church, and whether it may have its flaws or not, noone has the right to judge it, except God. People talk about this church being full of hypocrites, but these "hypocrites" have helped many people when they need someone the most during hardships, something that many of you people judging would never do for a stranger. And to say the least, no member has ever been forced to give money, those who give it do it because they have faith and are grateful. One day you might need Jesus, too, and when you want someone to help you spiritually, these "hypocrites" will be there, and during that time of need I hope you remember the things you criticized and I hope your opinions change. God Bless.
First of all, when I help someone out, I don't do it for recognition or so that I can yell it to the world about how good I am. There are a lot of non-religious organizations that help a lot more people than your church or cult, whatever you want to call it, and they don't do it for recognition. Humbleness is a badge of honor that does not suit everybody well. It is sometimes covered up by a thick layer of selfishness and grandeur. As far as me needing Jesus someday. I need him everyday. I don't have him on speed dial at my convenience. I am not very religious. I don't claim to be close to god because I am not worthy of his attention. So God Bless you too.
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well, obviously you are being tought by the OLD testament my sister and NOT the new where Jesus, being the king, left His thrown and became poor like us to be with us and teach His love to all humanity!! and always remeber that we are NOT witnessing Gods wrath because of Jesus and the cross.. so now adays, pastors can be self-appointed to any ministry and not nesseseraly comes from God. why do you think theres so many bible colleges out there, they get prepared sister. stop getting fed by the old test and jump to the new test where Jesus became from riches to raggs outta love for us!! you came throw all kinds of scriptures by SHOW me who lives in you by your actions of "agappe" love?? and Roca Firme had grown because of the doctrine the pastor teaches (which comes from G-12 and pastor Gloria- prosperity) any church that applies that doctrine will most definately grow but since the rest are NOT focused on (the more the growth, the more they tith) they teach salvation and the Cross. do the math sister and i pray that you and the rest of the RF members open their eyes. we are saved because of grace, not becasue of our works here on the earth. asi como dice el pastor gilberto "que grande es tu problema, que grande es tu siembra?" i just feel sorry for all people that get trapped with this doctrine, that shows me that there weak minded people that are being taken advantage of.
ANOTHER BRAIN WASHED..!!! DONT BLIND YOUR SELF....YOUR PASTER IS FULL OF IT..... PRAY FOR HIM ... HE'S A LIAR....ES BIEN DESPOTA..O APOCO NO??? YO MISMA TENGO AMIGOS QUE VAN A ESA IGLESIA Y TIENE QUE HACER CITA PARA VER A SU "PASTORSILLO" QUE ERA UN POBRE DE PRIMERA.... Y QUE AHORA SE HIZO UN RICO POR ROBAR LOS DIEZMOS Y LAS OFRENDAS..!!!!....Y QUE DIPLIMILLA DE G12 ...WHAT HE HECK IS THAT ???? LOL.... ESO LO SACAN EN 6 MESES...PLEASE..!!!
OPEN YOUR EYES..!!!!! NO TE CIERRES..!!!!
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San Antonio, TX

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LOL X2 wrote:
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ANOTHER BRAIN WASHED..!!! DONT BLIND YOUR SELF....YOUR PASTER IS FULL OF IT..... PRAY FOR HIM ... HE'S A LIAR....ES BIEN DESPOTA..O APOCO NO??? YO MISMA TENGO AMIGOS QUE VAN A ESA IGLESIA Y TIENE QUE HACER CITA PARA VER A SU "PASTORSILLO" QUE ERA UN POBRE DE PRIMERA.... Y QUE AHORA SE HIZO UN RICO POR ROBAR LOS DIEZMOS Y LAS OFRENDAS..!!!!....Y QUE DIPLIMILLA DE G12 ...WHAT HE HECK IS THAT ???? LOL.... ESO LO SACAN EN 6 MESES...PLEASE..!!!
OPEN YOUR EYES..!!!!! NO TE CIERRES..!!!!
G-12 es una doctrina compuesta por un pastor de Colombia nombrado por Cesar castellanos. its a doctrine that acording to him, God gave him this vision on how to go from a small church, to a mega-church in months. you can call it a tactic. thats basically how RF grew from a small church, to what it is today! you wanna know the pastors formula??[G-12 + prosperity = more money comming into the church] or the pastors pockets.
yeah right

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#26
Jan 8, 2010
 
porke te pones el nombre de un siervo de Dios? acaso no tienes otra cosa ke hacer ke hablar mal recuarda que solo Dios es el ke toma venganza y tu ni yo podemos juzgar a los demas mejor pnte a orar y pedirle a Dios que si Roca Firme es una mentira que se sepa pronto y ke como tu dices dejate de ninerias y deja de hablar que no vez que solo estas dando mas importasncia a la iglesia y segun tu que no vale la pena la iglesia ni el pastor y tu eres la o el ke esta diciendo todo esto mejor guardatelo y ORA !!!
Gracias Dios te Bendiga!!!
Alberto Gloria wrote:
Mira Pepe Ávila Nosotros no somos ningunos ignorantes conocemos muy bien la palabra a si como tú. Tú mismo hace hablado mal de tu mismo pastor (tu Autoridad) y los demás líderes rete bien que abren la boca para hablar de su PAPITO; incluso tu mismo también quieras salir de la iglesia. Pero como ahora te paga muy buena lana para que lo defiendas y seas su títere! Para predicar lo que le con viene a él: Que él le llama Visión de la iglesia; Pero más bien debería llamarse visión de Gilberto para hacer lana para él. Ahora dices que somos ignorantes! Para el colmo! Gente muy bien educada profesionales en lo que desempeñan en lo secular, han salido de la falsa doctrina de Roca Firme. Y tú los llamas ignorantes!! Mira Pepe tú no eres ningún BOBO pero el dinero te tiene horcado y inmóvil, también a Ricardo, a Maribel y a los demás. Si los Profetas que te han dado profecía son verdaderos donde está el complimiento de las tuyas? Acuérdate que se te profetizo que tendrías tu propia iglesia? O todavía no es el tiempo? O tu Papi el Apóstol no te deja? O es la lana que te da por debajo del agua que no te permite actuar? A la mejor si lo haces tú también va hacer EL SEGUENTE REBELDE, MALDECIDO, IGNORANTE, HERIDO, EL QUE NUNCA FUE DE NOSOTROS POR ESO SE FUE, EL QUE TAN POCO SE QUISO SOMETER A LA AUTORIDAD. Mira cuando ustedes dejen de andar con niñerías de decir a todo mundo que los que salemos de Roca Firme nos va a ir muy mal; que es una grande mentira. Entonces nosotros dejaremos te defendernos de los ataques de ustedes, que están muy bien manipulados por Gilberto porque él los usa a ustedes como títeres porque él no tiene los suficientes pantalones y la humildad para confrontar todo el mal que hecho su doctrina. Y porque sabe que el 98% de lo que se ha dicho aquí de él es verdad.
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LA VERDAD DE TODO ESTE BLOG... ES QUE TODOS SON UNAS PINCHES MARICAS... POR QUE NO TIENEN LOS SUFICIENTES WEVOS PARA DECIR SU NOMBRE REAL...TODOS SE ESCONDEN TRAS UN NICK NAME... SI REALMENTE TIENEN LOS WEBOS PARA ESCRIBIR EN ESTE FLOG POR QUE NO VAN Y DICEN LAS COSAS EN LA CARA DE QUIEN SE LAS TENGAN QUE DECIR Y SE DEJAN DE PENDEJADAS COMO ESTAS...
SOLO UNA COSA LES DIGO... EL REY DAVID TUVO EN SUS MANOS MATAR AL REY SAUL POR QUE HIZO MAL... Y YA LA HISTORIA LA SABEN... PERO EL REY DAVID SE DIO CUENTA QUE NO ERA NADIE PARA HACER ESO POR QUE DIOS HABIA PUESTO A SAUL COMO REY.... ASI QUE SI EL SR GILBERTO, ESTA ACTUANDO MAL... DIOS ES EL QUE LO VA A JUZGAR... NO USTEDES... AHORA NO SE HAGAN LOS PINCHES SANTOS QUE TOCAN EL CIELO CON LOS DEDOS... SI NO DICEN SUS NOMBRES ES POR QUE TIENEN MUCHA COLA QUE LES PISEN... PONGANSE A TRABAJAR MEJOR DEJEN DE ESTAR HACIENDO PENDEJADAS COMO ESTE TIPO DE BLOGS.... YO NO CONOZCO AL SR. GILBERTO... NI ROCA FIRME PERO CHINGUEN A SU MADRE TODOS LOS QUE SE ESCONDEN DETRAS DE UN NICK NAME PARA ATACAR A LOS DEMAS...
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Jajaja tu solito te la rayaste!!!! Soooooo funnnnny!!!
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don't follow that man is like jimmy jones like 70s cult jonestown !
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WHY does it bother you ppl so much what this church does!!!!!!!! if you dont go there dont worry about it!!!!!! if you do then stop going!!!!! God Bless you all!!!!!
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Para que pierden el tiempo en hablar de el, Dios conose el corazon de cada persona a el nadie puede enganarlo. Piensen que al ultimo el tendra que rendirle cuentas a Dios.
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#32
Mar 20, 2010
 
in god we trust. lets respect people
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#33
Mar 29, 2010
 
Ugh; swear you effin eagle pass people should really get a life; first you people don't know anything about roca firme; you mofos really need to stop listening to what other people say ; maybe for once in your pathetic lifes go to a good church and let go of all the anger you have swear; stop judging; and bitchh the one that wrote about Paster pepe ; you have no fucking right to talk about him thatway , if you don't even have the slightest idea of his life; I'm sorry if your pathetic miserable fat fugly old person that has never gotten laid, but maybe that's why your being all bitchyy about this loll ; so GET A LIFE BITCH ,AND GET LAID CUZ MAYBE THATS WHAT YOU NEED!!! Your probally the one that's brainwashed , of all the lies you hear of fucking gay ass eagle pass , and this sick dark world ; andd mayb
god send you a man that will Fu** you sweetie :D ; till then don't be a bitchh noone will love you like that ;; GOD BLESS you ALL!!!!!&#58389;
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#34
Mar 29, 2010
 
"Whoaaa". I hope you don't go to that church, because of the way your typing.
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#35
Mar 30, 2010
 
whooaaaa is probably sitting on the first row every sunday morning acting all godly, pls watch out u may be struck by lightning lol, by the way where u speaking in tongues? didnt think you where
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San Antonio, TX

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#36
Mar 30, 2010
 
All This Yappidi-yap...U should be focused on ONE thing only...Jesus Christ son of Jehova. The one that IS to come! The ones that have a grude against each other..only a fair warning..u need to stop this bickering fall to your knees 4 forgiveness and focus all your attention on the Almighty! Enough about the material things..all of these "things" will come to a vanish. It's about U and God!
For the ones that understand this..God is Coming VERY SOON...We all make our own choices hopefully we choose wisely!
orale

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#37
Mar 31, 2010
 
orale,....i did'nt know churches had clikas and throw signs too!!!
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San Antonio, TX

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#38
Apr 1, 2010
 
were the hypocrits yea right whos the one saying crap! about us what did we do to you or what did my pastor do nothing if you come to our church we welcome with open arms if you leave thats your choice but we wont judge you or reject you if you come back
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#39
Apr 2, 2010
 
If all these quotes from the bible did any good to human kind we all would not be sinners. The church and its members are sinners as well and the entire population. And the reason that its easy to talk about this congregation and any other is because of the luxuries the pastors tend to live in when its not supposed to be like that. But you know what God sees all and no one needs to be judging the church or its pastor because he knows the truth. But I just want to point out that this pastor has made so much riches he has investment accounts and its doubling mabye tripling the funds your put in the morning donations and diesmos. And in another comment someone put that "Do you really think God would have him still there as the pastor of this church" Its only upon time ...
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#40
Apr 3, 2010
 
Ok guys, Lets get a few things straight here.
First off: We all need to agree to disagree on a lot of points. Sure, things at Roca Firme will and do appear to be different or odd at some level. But you could say the same thing about worshipping La Santa Muerte, following Buddhism or practicing Islam. Just because a church is different doesn't make it a cult as some people have implied.
Second: There is no such thing as a perfect church so lets just drop that idea. A perfect church would need to be made up of perfect people....which do not exist. What I'm trying to say here is that every church be it Methodist, Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran, Pentecostal or otherwise WILL have it's share of problems.
Third: I have NEVER felt forced to give in anyway shape or form at Roca Firme. I can however see how some people could feel this way. Prosperity is preached somewhat regularly. Does that make prosperity wrong? No. My feeling is if you wish to give than do so. If not than don't. I believe that the tithe is biblical and it should be given of your own free will along with anything else you wish to give.
Fourth: Have any of you seen the finances of the church or it's staff? I doubt it. I have. Trust me it's on the level.
Fifth: I myself am a minister and have worked in interdenominational ministry myself for many years. I am however not on staff at Roca Firme or paid in anyway by the church. I wish to work with all Christians of all denominations. Does that mean that I believe everything that other Christians do? No. But IMO the biggest problem the Christian church suffers from today is division by man-made denominational boundaries. When I say "Christian church" I mean any and all denominations that place Christ first as their Lord and Savior.
I wish that all the churches in Eagle Pass....including Roca Firme could come together and accomplish the change that this city desperately needs to move forward. Only then will we ALL be blessed.
Let the Topix flaming commence and the misinterpretation of my comments proceed. Thank you very much and God Bless you all.
omg

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#41
Apr 4, 2010
 
bla bla...con razon la gente prefiere seguir en el mundo, porque en las iglesias no se encuentra a Dios solo discordias y chismes..esto es ridiculo

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