Roca Firme a Pagan Cult?

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wiggles

Washington, DC

#1 Jul 20, 2011
Anti Catholicism? Pagan rituals? They claim to be Christians, but no known and accepted Christian churches accept them as a true religion. They are a Cult funded by extortive donation far exceeding the mere pittance that the Catholics ask for. Blaspheme will take your souls to the place you seek to avoid. Open your eyes people; it only takes one well articulate person to lead a bunch of under educated and weak willed people. One charismatic leader can start a terrorist organization. People like Osama Bin Laden. Jonestown was a good example of blindly following an egotist. Learn from the past donít believe the hype. Churches donít bash other Churches.
chief

Dallas, TX

#2 Jul 20, 2011
I totally agree
lol

United States

#3 Jul 20, 2011
They drink the koolaid like the Jim Jones cult in Guyana.
ralf

United States

#4 Jul 20, 2011
He's brainwashed Tejano star Gary Hobbs. There are rumors that Hobbs will retire to work for Pastor Gilberto.
clickclack

El Monte, CA

#5 Jul 20, 2011
I want to clear something up. This is true. Out of all the religions here In eagle pass. ROCA Firms is the only church that loves your money more than their members. And lets say you fall on hard times. They could care less about you. You can't go to their church asking for help. They don't have a food shelf. They dont have food vouchers. They won't help you with bills. They don't help you period. Yet they will give you 15 to 20 tickets to sell to us who dont go to their church. My neighbor used to come around every Thursday until I asked him one day how many tickets does he get. He happily said 20. And needed to sell them. And that it was for the church. I kindly stop buying them. I had asked what does the church do with the money. He told me he dont know and if the people that go are ever in need. Will they get help from the church. He said some have quit going because the church does not help you that way. What they do is pray for you to over come this hard time in need. That's it. I told my neighbor when he was laid off. Why dont he go to our Catholic church to get some food. Because he was having a yard sale and was struggling to make ends meet. He didn't know this and was glad I told him. Well later on that day I see him and his wife with groceries. He was so happy that our church was able to give him food. And also a voucher so he can pay his utility bills. It's been about a year and ever since he converted to being a. Catholic. And now he tells me that RocaFirmes only interest was to get money. And he wondered why everyone in the congregation had real nice cars and houses. I always told him the church was poking everyone's eyes out. They even came to his house asking him why he left the church. I know because I was watering my yard one evening and some people came to him house and he ran them off asking them to leave his family alone. I thought they were trouble makers. But it turned out it was some church members coming to see why he no longer went to their church. THE CHURCH NOW HAS WELL OVER HALF OF THEIR SEATING EMPTY. DONT BELEIVE ME. THEY HAVE A TELEVISED SHOW ON CH 20. FOM WHEN I WAS SCROLLING THRU THE CHANNELS I CAME ACROSS THEIR SHOW ON TV. TEXAS BALLROOM HAS WAY TOO MUCH SPACE FOR THE 30 OR SO PEOPLE THAT NOW ATTEND. FOR ONCE I FEEL GLAD EAGLE PASS PEOSEEINGE SEEING THE TRUTH FOR WHAT IT IS.
wot

United States

#6 Jul 20, 2011
ralf wrote:
He's brainwashed Tejano star Gary Hobbs. There are rumors that Hobbs will retire to work for Pastor Gilberto.
Say it ain't so!
chief

Dallas, TX

#7 Jul 20, 2011
Has the census for members of Roca Firme gone down? Or is it still growing
tvaw

United States

#8 Jul 20, 2011
chief wrote:
Has the census for members of Roca Firme gone down? Or is it still growing
Everytime they come out on channel 20 the place always looks half empty or less. It used to look fuller in the past.
chief

Dallas, TX

#9 Jul 20, 2011
Good then its a work in progress.Hope those people that left established a better God Centered Church. Other than money and riches.
funny

El Monte, CA

#10 Jul 20, 2011
It seems the pastors and the congregation are also offering plate sale tickets. Gilbert was offering people at HEB trying to sell tickets to non church goers. And they had a booth out front. What a douchebag. Guess since he ain't got the people to do his evil doings. He has to do it himself. Soon they will have no other option but to give up and hopefully we can get TEXASBALLROOM BACK. Always love going to concerts there. Down with the cult!!!
funny

United States

#11 Jul 20, 2011
It be funny if they were to put poster cutouts of people on the empty seats to make it seem like its always packed. Soon e!ought they won't be able to televise no more. Then we would know the battle was won and Gilbert moves back to the hood. He will probably just leave town and start his cult somewhere else.
tvaw wrote:
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Everytime they come out on channel 20 the place always looks half empty or less. It used to look fuller in the past.
fox

United States

#12 Jul 20, 2011
Don't be surprised if the Roca Firme members ever look like this:
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/9552,news-comme...
Myron

United States

#13 Jul 20, 2011
funny wrote:
It seems the pastors and the congregation are also offering plate sale tickets. Gilbert was offering people at HEB trying to sell tickets to non church goers. And they had a booth out front. What a douchebag. Guess since he ain't got the people to do his evil doings. He has to do it himself. Soon they will have no other option but to give up and hopefully we can get TEXASBALLROOM BACK. Always love going to concerts there. Down with the cult!!!
Wow that's pathetic about Gilberto selling tickets to non-members at HEB. I hope people are smart enough to not buy his crappy tickets . I think's he got enough money as it is.

I bet he's also got people begging on the corner of Bibb and Main to add more money to Pastor Gilberto's stash.
yep

United States

#14 Jul 20, 2011
Actually most of the people from there are educated. I know a couple of them. They are super nice and never shove their church or Christianity down your throat like other local churches. Well at least that is what I think. Don't go there but don't have nothing against them. I highly doubt there was a "booth" selling tickets at HEB. LOL. A que gente..... Preocupense por sus pinches problemas que han de tener. Bola de pendejos. Vayan y diganle a su cara tanto andan hay. Huevos no tienen.
witness

Eagle Pass, TX

#15 Jul 20, 2011
I walked into HEB and did see idiots selling tickets for plate sales at the maverick lake. I was going to buy two but when I found out it was foe RocaFirme. I was like hell no. I even told the people there they were slaves to the church. Educated? Right some education the have. To me its the lowest you can go when you decide that a so called prophet can save you. Really there's no such thing as prophets in this day in age. Naustrodamus was a prophet then. He foretold the future. Everyone should witted a petition to ban this church from eagle pass. Before it becomes another Jim Jones case. We need to pick up signatures. I'd rather go to another church than one where money is the reason. Think they use subliminal messages within their music. Or someone has. A sly tongue to lure stupid people. W can protest in front f the church if we wanted to. Down with the cult.!!
yep wrote:
Actually most of the people from there are educated. I know a couple of them. They are super nice and never shove their church or Christianity down your throat like other local churches. Well at least that is what I think. Don't go there but don't have nothing against them. I highly doubt there was a "booth" selling tickets at HEB. LOL. A que gente..... Preocupense por sus pinches problemas que han de tener. Bola de pendejos. Vayan y diganle a su cara tanto andan hay. Huevos no tienen.
Nana

United States

#16 Jul 20, 2011
Yo no se k sera alli,lo unico k se es k te sacan el dinero,solo les importa k "SIMBRES" para k el pastor pueda tener los lujos de los k goza a costillas de la gente.Ojala k los k todavia kreen en ese ratero abran los ojosy dejen de mantener ese parasito.
nope

United States

#17 Jul 20, 2011
yep wrote:
Actually most of the people from there are educated. I know a couple of them. They are super nice and never shove their church or Christianity down your throat like other local churches. Well at least that is what I think. Don't go there but don't have nothing against them. I highly doubt there was a "booth" selling tickets at HEB. LOL. A que gente..... Preocupense por sus pinches problemas que han de tener. Bola de pendejos. Vayan y diganle a su cara tanto andan hay. Huevos no tienen.
Yo si se lo dije a su cara, pero le valio madre. Knowing that he has many "pendejos" like you sucking up to him, he cared less what I (as 1 person) had to say.

Y al contrario, esa iglesia, ERA mi pinche problema. Por eso ahora, problemas no tengo, Gracias a Dios, y a Dios nomas.
catholic

United States

#18 Jul 21, 2011
yep wrote:
Actually most of the people from there are educated. I know a couple of them. They are super nice and never shove their church or Christianity down your throat like other local churches. Well at least that is what I think. Don't go there but don't have nothing against them. I highly doubt there was a "booth" selling tickets at HEB. LOL. A que gente..... Preocupense por sus pinches problemas que han de tener. Bola de pendejos. Vayan y diganle a su cara tanto andan hay. Huevos no tienen.
Actually I've gotten the exact opposite reacion from Roca Firme members. I've actually witnessed Roca Firme members tell me and other Catholics that they think all priests are child molesters and we will all burn hell. They do try to shove down their agenda to Catholics and other non members. I think we all need to respect other people's faiths because all this religion bashing gets us nowhere.
Hmmm

United States

#19 Jul 21, 2011
I went to RocaFirme one time... I didn't like it. After the Pastor preached... I noticed he was nowhere to be found. The fact you need an appointment to see him is odd.. Does anyone know Comunidad Cristiana Piedras Negras. In piedrs? On Colegio militario & San Luis? I heard that's cultish also...
truth

Carrizo Springs, TX

#21 Nov 3, 2012
funny wrote:
It seems the pastors and the congregation are also offering plate sale tickets. Gilbert was offering people at HEB trying to sell tickets to non church goers. And they had a booth out front. What a douchebag. Guess since he ain't got the people to do his evil doings. He has to do it himself. Soon they will have no other option but to give up and hopefully we can get TEXASBALLROOM BACK. Always love going to concerts there. Down with the cult!!!
It's not a Cult or a church. It's a Restaurant. "Cocina Loca Firme " dbs "Roca Firme Church". This way they don't pay taxes.

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