Worthington man killed in crash
White Rock, Canada
#2 Apr 4, 2008
My son Chris Eves past away October 2007 when his 2007 Toyoya Tundra 4X4 drove off the road to the right a stuck a tree. The vehicle being an incredible total loss. He had only owned it 3 months and was his second as he had a 2004 prior.
Minimum speed was determined to me 80 m.p.h. and his vehicle after striking the tree bounced back onto the roadway at a 90 degree angle.
I hope that someone from th media champions thse fatalities as unacceptable. I became aware of the mihap of Dustin Mullett from the posting of M. Mullett at the NHSTA compaint site. The same place I posted my sons mishap.
These two mishaps are very interesting in the similarity of the circumstances. The NHSTA is a frustrating body to deal with, and seems to want to stick it's herad in the sand. They should have a pass or fail standard for collisions, in particular frontal crashes, but allowed the Toyota a four (4) Star rating, production and sale to the public.
I am sorry for the Mullet family loss, as well that of my son. The list of complaints with the NHSTA should have triggered not only a recall but an inquiry a to how they were allowed to be sold to the motoring public.
If the other manufacturers are building a five (5) star vehicle how come the Toyota folks can not?
#3 Dec 17, 2008
I certainly understand your pain and I am truly sorry for your loss and for that of the other family.
When I read your post I was not sure if the mph you stated was correct or a mistake. You stated that the minimum peed was considered to be 80 mph. If that is indeed the case sir, with all due repect to you, there is no vehicle on the road that can guarantee you will survive a crash at those speeds. Even a five star vehicle will be destroyed at 80 mph if it is slammed into a tree head on.
I certainly am not trying to offend you or minimize you loss.
I have worked in the autobody repair business for a very long time and I have seen numerous cars and trucks come in after accidents very similar to these. None of them were saved and unfortunately neither were most of the occupants. Many were five star rated. You need to be aware that no one tests cars or trucks at these speeds. That is the real problem. Most test at speeds that in no way reflect real world driving, and this pertains to every automaker, not just Toyota.
I applaude you for trying to get safer vehicles,but we need to demand this from all manufacturers, not just Toyota.
One big reason for this problem is that we require all manufacturers to meet fuel mileage standards. Their is only so much you can do engine management wise to reach this , especially in trucks,. Truck buyers demand towing and pulling power which equates to horsepower and torque needing to be rather high. The government demands fuel economy, which means either cut power if you cannot make your engine management system more efficient or you do what most manufacturers do, cut weight.
If you are cutting weight with lighter weight body panels, thinner sheetmetal, and plastic fenders etc the vehicle is not going to withstand the impact it would with stronger , heavier , thicker components. Then if you do build these heavier the vehicles they hit in a crash will sustain more damage and hurt those passengers.
I would like to see some sort of an integrated roll cage that would tie into the frame of the trucks. It would not be that difficult to do and would not have to be something that was even visible or noticeable in the passenger compartment . Look at what they do with cars in the Nascar races. They can take one hell of a front impact at outrageous speeds. This could easily be scaled down and adapted to trucks. They already have a truck series to get data from. If the front end could be changed and a perimeter cage be built into the body around the doors and inside the rocker panels the trucks would not collapse . Even with a home installed roll cage that cost me less than $300 to purchase and install my son's drag racing truck withstood a roll over at speeds in excess of 125 mph. He did not get so much as a scratch, just got his bell rung and was really dizzy and sore for the rest of the day.
There are numerous answers. We just have to force the issue with all vehicles.
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