Search for Missing Karen Swift

Since: Jan 12

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#78417 Jan 25, 2013
Plz do the right thing wrote:
I am begging you. Don't let your hatred dictate the rest of your life. You may feel as though you have gotten the ultimate revenge but this will hang over your head for the rest of your life. And still nothing will change. He has cheated on you for years and will continue doing so because you allow him to do so. Every time you go back, you are accepting his infidelities. Leave him and get on with your life. Forgive those who have done you wrong and be free to live your life. She can't hurt you anymore so please let it go and do the right thing for those children. What happened is wrong but you can make changes. You hold the key, please unlock your freedom and do what is right. Don't let him get off because you want revenge. It is over now and you can move on if you will. Please do what is right.
Wow now this doesnt sound like a women killed Karen at all but it does sound like a women got the "ultimate revenge" by what happened.
If this is true I guess my question would be was the satisifaction of the revenge really worth it even in her death? Is it worth it when you lay your head down at night with a killer???
QUEUE

Florissant, MO

#78418 Jan 26, 2013
Fed_the_F_up wrote:
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Wow now this doesnt sound like a women killed Karen at all but it does sound like a women got the "ultimate revenge" by what happened.
If this is true I guess my question would be was the satisifaction of the revenge really worth it even in her death? Is it worth it when you lay your head down at night with a killer???
Karen will always have the satisfaction and more revenge over whoever did this to her. When whoever killed her and/or any possible accomplice are laying their head(s) down at night on a metal bunk being allowed only one blanky, their bathroom being a hole in the floor, being afraid to go to sleep, having to STILL watch over their shoulders during 1 of 24 hours allowed outside in the "yard", and sharing a "room" of close quarters with another nutcase that may have even been committing this type of crime on possibly numerous occasions just for fun, they'll see her beautiful face and hear Karen laughing with the ultimate satisfaction of justice while she rests peacefully in God's arms.
New information

United States

#78419 Jan 26, 2013
Dawg wrote:
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Okay. I know I'm slow sometimes, so bear with me.
Fingerprints were found on Karen's cell phone battery. It's easy to assume that they belong to Karen, or a cell phone tech at the store where batteries are bought, or they belong to the perp who intentionally removed the battery in an effort to throw the investigation off.
Are Karen's fingerprints on file somewhere so that it can be determined whether they were her's or not?
Has DS willingly given his fingerprints to be used for comparison? No one has been able to verify if DS has taken a lie detector test. If not, I doubt if he would give up fingerprints willingly either.
Everyone knows what I think happened to Karen, so something like this can certainly feed my fire. Without knowing some of the particulars I'd have to hold off on making too many comments on it.
Box made a statement in the first few days that said the phones had not been recovered. Then, a few weeks later, they said the phones had been recovered. Someone posted that they were found on Hogshooter's property but that got shut down when they allowed him bail, returned his vehicle and said he was not a suspect.
The river area was searched because that was the last place the tower picked up a ping. Technology says the phone will continue to ping even when shut off, but would only do it while the battery was charged. How long does a cell phone battery stay charged? I guess it depends on the individual battery but wouldn't be more than a day. Especially if all her friends and family were trying to call the phone.
The importance of this find has to be tempered by whose fingerprint (s) it turns out to be and under what circumstances were the phones found. Most importantly, where. Did someone intentionally remove the battery to keep from leaving a digital trail, or is it as simple as someone in the cell phone store replacing the battery for Karen?
After almost 15 months of nothing it would be easy to jump at something like this. So it begs the question; why leak info now?
It has been confirmed that the prints are not Karen's. David was a deputy reserve in the pocahontas area so I would assume that his prints would be on file. I am of the opinion that the battery was removed for a reason. I think you know the reason.
QUEUE

Florissant, MO

#78420 Jan 26, 2013
New information wrote:
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It has been confirmed that the prints are not Karen's. David was a deputy reserve in the pocahontas area so I would assume that his prints would be on file. I am of the opinion that the battery was removed for a reason. I think you know the reason.
Wondering if the battery was found placed back in the phone or in a different location from where the phone was found.
guest

Sioux City, IA

#78421 Jan 26, 2013
has anyone looked in the lost and found?
New information

United States

#78423 Jan 26, 2013
QUEUE wrote:
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Wondering if the battery was found placed back in the phone or in a different location from where the phone was found.
The battery was in the phone.
QUEUE

Florissant, MO

#78424 Jan 26, 2013
--Unreal 1__ wrote:
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5 Will get you 10 it is a cops print, if the rumor is true
And then you will go on for WEEKS about how he was involved
Have a nice day :)
Put the crack pipe down pal. You've never read any post of mine with me giving any opinion of "who".
Dawg

Granger, IN

#78425 Jan 26, 2013
An old Cherokee told his grandson, "My son, there is a battle between two wolves inside us all.
One is evil. It is anger, jealousy, greed, inferiority, resentment lies and ego.
The other is good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, humility, kindness, empathy and truth."
The boy thought about it, and asked, "Grandfather, which one wins?"
The old man quietly replied, "The one you feed".

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Since: Feb 12

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#78426 Jan 26, 2013
Dawg wrote:
An old Cherokee told his grandson, "My son, there is a battle between two wolves inside us all.
One is evil. It is anger, jealousy, greed, inferiority, resentment lies and ego.
The other is good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, humility, kindness, empathy and truth."
The boy thought about it, and asked, "Grandfather, which one wins?"
The old man quietly replied, "The one you feed".

-author unknown
Great post!
Dawg

Granger, IN

#78427 Jan 26, 2013
Mrstea wrote:
Did news articles and videos get removed( online) before a trial startedin other cases? I don't remember if it happened at Casey Anthonys trial, but truthfully, I didnt think to look then.
There were a couple that got deleted. One that I remember was the head guy from Texas Equasearch being interviewed at Caylee's remains site the day of discovery. He went on camera saying that he and his crew had previously searched that specific area.
Another was the two PIs that went looking in that area prior to the discovery. One recorded the other without disclosing to the other that he was recording the search.
Immediately after Caylee's remains were discovered, a reporter chased Roy Kronk down and got a brief interview on camera that quickly disappeared.
So yes, there were some that were quashed before trial.
unknown

Mountain Home, AR

#78428 Jan 26, 2013
New information wrote:
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The battery was in the phone.
Well we know who and why!
QUEUE

Florissant, MO

#78429 Jan 26, 2013
New information wrote:
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The battery was in the phone.
Hmmmmm. Well I kind of figure that there should be very minimal amount of people's fingerprints on especially a battery of a cell....her's and maybe one from the store she bought it at. Even if one fingerprint of a person overlaps another's, they should be able to separate them and determine whose was the most likely to touch it last. Even more interesting if the same prints are on more than one battery to another phone if she had one for her business she was developing and if they both "dropped off radar" at the same time. The technology available can be quite helpful with timeline also as well as being able to substantiate or disprove the story of anyone questioned.
QUEUE

Florissant, MO

#78430 Jan 26, 2013
Dawg wrote:
An old Cherokee told his grandson, "My son, there is a battle between two wolves inside us all.
One is evil. It is anger, jealousy, greed, inferiority, resentment lies and ego.
The other is good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, humility, kindness, empathy and truth."
The boy thought about it, and asked, "Grandfather, which one wins?"
The old man quietly replied, "The one you feed".
-author unknown
Love this. I used to remind my kids of which one to "feed" by telling them this story.
Dawg

Granger, IN

#78431 Jan 26, 2013
New information wrote:
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It has been confirmed that the prints are not Karen's. David was a deputy reserve in the pocahontas area so I would assume that his prints would be on file. I am of the opinion that the battery was removed for a reason. I think you know the reason.
All along I had felt the phones held the key to this case. Of course, I was thinking more in the line of texts and call log, not a fingerprint on the battery.
That's awesome.
QUEUE

Florissant, MO

#78432 Jan 26, 2013
unknown wrote:
<quoted text>Well we know who and why!
Do "we"? I think there are still the same amount of us wondering "who"se they are.
Dawg

Granger, IN

#78433 Jan 26, 2013
Mrstea wrote:
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Great post!
Someone posted that to my Facebook page this morning and can be applied to this murder.
unknown

Mountain Home, AR

#78434 Jan 26, 2013
appiphonespy.com/iphone-tracking-software.htm...

The application is totally undetectable so you donít have to worry about the monitored user finding it in their phone.

Ginger put this on the thread many months ago. I thought she was crazy and still do.

www.stealthgenie.com/iphone-monitoring-softwa...

Read this and this will shock you. I guess she knew the smoking gun.
QUEUE

Florissant, MO

#78435 Jan 26, 2013
Dawg wrote:
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All along I had felt the phones held the key to this case. Of course, I was thinking more in the line of texts and call log, not a fingerprint on the battery.
That's awesome.
I have too. Technology only makes things easier for those who aren't criminals.
QUEUE

Florissant, MO

#78436 Jan 26, 2013
Ginger wrote:
<quoted text>I have always stated that I need to see solid evidence. Now I need to see solid evidence that he wasn't involved. One damn post changed my mind.
I wonder if the same post is what scared JWYWK off.
Dawg

Granger, IN

#78437 Jan 26, 2013
QUEUE wrote:
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Hmmmmm. Well I kind of figure that there should be very minimal amount of people's fingerprints on especially a battery of a cell....her's and maybe one from the store she bought it at. Even if one fingerprint of a person overlaps another's, they should be able to separate them and determine whose was the most likely to touch it last. Even more interesting if the same prints are on more than one battery to another phone if she had one for her business she was developing and if they both "dropped off radar" at the same time. The technology available can be quite helpful with timeline also as well as being able to substantiate or disprove the story of anyone questioned.
I can hear the argument already. "What does the fingerprint prove?"
A case that relies on circumstantial evidence has to be the hardest of cases to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm not minding the length of time that the DA is taking in putting all this together. I think you hit the nail on the head when you suggested that the DA may have requested some outside, more experienced assistance in putting all this together. It's more common that what some might expect.

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