Alternative School (Learning Center)

Alternative School (Learning Center)

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Peapack, NJ

#1 Oct 30, 2009
Are things better at the alternative school? Why are the kids searched almost daily? Are the kids at DHS or DCHS searched daily?
guest

United States

#2 Oct 30, 2009
say what wrote:
Are things better at the alternative school? Why are the kids searched almost daily? Are the kids at DHS or DCHS searched daily?
Don't even try to compare the two groups. These kids are at the Learning Center are there because they couldn't abide by the rules at regular school. Most of these kids have no respect for any type of authority. They've never been taught to draw the line before getting off into completely unacceptable behavior. They sorely need to learn to be held accountable for their bad behavior.
wellwell

Bedminster, NJ

#3 Oct 31, 2009
guest wrote:
<quoted text> Don't even try to compare the two groups. These kids are at the Learning Center are there because they couldn't abide by the rules at regular school. Most of these kids have no respect for any type of authority. They've never been taught to draw the line before getting off into completely unacceptable behavior. They sorely need to learn to be held accountable for their bad behavior.
Yes I will try to compare the two groups. Some are there because they defended themselves in fights. Fights started by others. That is unfair! I dont have kids at the school but I do know of a few that have been there for defending themselves. They receive federal funds the same as other schools but they should not be treated as criminals. If action is taken that wouls involve entering homes of "troubled individuals" some behaviors can be dealt with! Oh too much work for all of the federal monies received huh? Rather look good on paper than actually using interventions? Unrealistic because you`d have to be real or show true colors?
guest

Dyersburg, TN

#4 Oct 31, 2009
wellwell wrote:
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Yes I will try to compare the two groups. Some are there because they defended themselves in fights. Fights started by others. That is unfair! I dont have kids at the school but I do know of a few that have been there for defending themselves. They receive federal funds the same as other schools but they should not be treated as criminals. If action is taken that wouls involve entering homes of "troubled individuals" some behaviors can be dealt with! Oh too much work for all of the federal monies received huh? Rather look good on paper than actually using interventions? Unrealistic because you`d have to be real or show true colors?
If they were being treated as criminals, they would be in jail. So you really can't say they are being treated as criminals.

Since: Aug 09

Dyersburg

#5 Oct 31, 2009
I know they do not keep them there NEAR long enough.....
fed the f up with whining

United States

#6 Oct 31, 2009
Most there should be treated as criminals! They've attacked both school officials and the resource officer on several occasions. How many times have you seen the police running to DHS or DCHS? Probably not on a daily basis that's for sure. That place is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode and make national news. When I was in school if you couldn't conform to the rules you were kicked out. And the parents bore the responsibility of raising the child not the school system. Or the authorities. Hold the parents accountable for their childs behavior and they might start acting like real parents.
onceagain

Bedminster, NJ

#7 Oct 31, 2009
If there was intervention wouldnt that make the parents be more responsible or at least cause the parents to have the kids sent to boot camp? Yes boot camp off the bat! Some of their parents need some boot camp because the kids had to raise themselves or be reared by family. INTERVENTION is the key! The kids should not be thrown away!
lovemusic2

Holly Springs, MS

#8 Oct 31, 2009
onceagain wrote:
If there was intervention wouldnt that make the parents be more responsible or at least cause the parents to have the kids sent to boot camp? Yes boot camp off the bat! Some of their parents need some boot camp because the kids had to raise themselves or be reared by family. INTERVENTION is the key! The kids should not be thrown away!
You know I had a child at Northview with ADHD. Teachers didn't want to deal with this matter. I went before the board they told me that there wasn't enough funding to get a behavior analizest. They was going to put my child in alternative school and I wouldn't hear of it. If you look up section 504 in the ADA you will find that students have rights. Also, I called DLag lawers in Memphis to come and help me. When Mr. Tony Jones heard of this he was sending my child to alternitive school. Well, I pulled my child out of school and started home schooling through Gateway. They sent the Truncy Board to my house gonna put me in jail but I had all the proof that my child never missed a day of school. Then I enrolled my child in a privite school that only allows 30 children in the whole school. This is a blessing "MY CHILD IS NOW ON THE HONOR ROLL, DOES CHORES WITHOUT BEING ASKED, WHEN ASKED A QUESTION THE RESPONSE THAT I GET IS YES MAM NO MAM AND YES SIR AND NO SIR. VERY POLITE AND WELL MANNERED. The point that I am trying to make her is that I tried to work with the school system but Northview wouldn't hear of it. All the teachers tried to blame the family.

NOW MY CHILD IS LIVING PROOF THAT HE GOT OUT OF THIS CRAZY SCHOOL SYSTEM BUT STILL LIVING WITH THE SAME FAMILY STRAIGHT A STUDENT
AND I TALKED WITH A POLICE OFFICER AND HE TOLD ME THAT MY CHILD WAS THE MOST WELL MANNERED CHILD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HE KNEW THAT WE AS PARENTS DONE A GOOD JOB.

Now in my opinion I think that the school system DON'T CARE.
They pass children just to get them through school.
The teachers have forgotten how to earn respect.
So the children don't give respect.

The school system needs to go back to the smaller schools like Rollen, Fifth Consolidated, Trimble, ect. where they only had like 100 kids in the whole school. Like they had in the 70's and 80's. We would be ahole lot better off.
onceagain

Peapack, NJ

#9 Nov 1, 2009
Schools receive federal funding and they must fulfilled every obligation written in those grants! The school system want to do credit recovery just to make their numbers look good at graduAtion ceremonies. MAKE IT LOOK GOOD ON PAPER FOR STATE! Teachers should be required to have CEUs every year! Some teachers do not care & do not try to advocate for troubled children.
HATS OFF TO YOU MOM & DAD!
no show

Dyersburg, TN

#10 Nov 1, 2009
I could not agree more with this. The school system is run just like our government. It is nothing more than dirty politics. Has anyone's child ever come home and talked about how they were treated by certain teachers or staff? I have heard many students say that if their parents come to the school and address the problem it only makes it harder on them. Guess what? It does! Lynn Gardner is the #1 BULLY at DYER COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL. This piece of scum with all of his degrees hanging on his small office wall is allowed and given power to treat students and parents any way he might choose. He treats people as if they are nothing and that he is the shit. He is a spineless piece of work and will punish your kid or kids for your opinion of him. I hope he realizes that he only has a small amount of power in this world and it is behind the doors of that school. It's a big world out here and he only looks like a piss ant when he walks out those doors every day! I have always noticed that people who have complexes usually have bad attitudes. When I see his face I understand why he is so pissed off. I guess I would be to if I looked in the mirror everyday and only seen a big asshol*! We have control over our children not the school system. My child's attitude has changed so much since I have taken them out of the public school system. I hope when he goes to church on Sunday's that he prays for GOD to help him with his attitude and for the way he treats others. Do you think you can always disrespect others and expect respect in return?
guest

Dyersburg, TN

#11 Nov 1, 2009
onceagain wrote:
If there was intervention wouldnt that make the parents be more responsible or at least cause the parents to have the kids sent to boot camp? Yes boot camp off the bat! Some of their parents need some boot camp because the kids had to raise themselves or be reared by family. INTERVENTION is the key! The kids should not be thrown away!
I totally agree!!!!!!!!!!
guest72

United States

#12 Nov 1, 2009
lovemusic2 wrote:
<quoted text>
You know I had a child at Northview with ADHD. Teachers didn't want to deal with this matter. I went before the board they told me that there wasn't enough funding to get a behavior analizest. They was going to put my child in alternative school and I wouldn't hear of it. If you look up section 504 in the ADA you will find that students have rights. Also, I called DLag lawers in Memphis to come and help me. When Mr. Tony Jones heard of this he was sending my child to alternitive school. Well, I pulled my child out of school and started home schooling through Gateway. They sent the Truncy Board to my house gonna put me in jail but I had all the proof that my child never missed a day of school. Then I enrolled my child in a privite school that only allows 30 children in the whole school. This is a blessing "MY CHILD IS NOW ON THE HONOR ROLL, DOES CHORES WITHOUT BEING ASKED, WHEN ASKED A QUESTION THE RESPONSE THAT I GET IS YES MAM NO MAM AND YES SIR AND NO SIR. VERY POLITE AND WELL MANNERED. The point that I am trying to make her is that I tried to work with the school system but Northview wouldn't hear of it. All the teachers tried to blame the family.
NOW MY CHILD IS LIVING PROOF THAT HE GOT OUT OF THIS CRAZY SCHOOL SYSTEM BUT STILL LIVING WITH THE SAME FAMILY STRAIGHT A STUDENT
AND I TALKED WITH A POLICE OFFICER AND HE TOLD ME THAT MY CHILD WAS THE MOST WELL MANNERED CHILD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HE KNEW THAT WE AS PARENTS DONE A GOOD JOB.
Now in my opinion I think that the school system DON'T CARE.
They pass children just to get them through school.
The teachers have forgotten how to earn respect.
So the children don't give respect.
The school system needs to go back to the smaller schools like Rollen, Fifth Consolidated, Trimble, ect. where they only had like 100 kids in the whole school. Like they had in the 70's and 80's. We would be ahole lot better off.
I have a very similar story--my son WAS sent to alternative school for displaying ADHD type behavior...I asked for help and was laughted at--Northview needs new administration!
bad behavior in everyone

Dyersburg, TN

#13 Nov 1, 2009
The entire school system needs new adminstration. Starting in the main office! Some of them have been there so long that they have gotten very comfortable and rude.
guesswhat

United States

#14 Nov 3, 2009
Some of the teachers should be made to teach instead of just handing out busy work! Dr. Williams is trying to make a difference.

Since: May 09

AOL

#15 Nov 3, 2009
well all i can say is for me personally, i thought alternative school was way better than being in regular school. i went to dchs and i hated it. i mouthed off to teachers and shit and spent alot of time in iss then i was sent to alternative school. i liked it there because it was quiet. you could do your work without alot of distractions. i dont know how dchs is now but when i went their the place was like a circus..the teachers didnt control their class, seniors would throw spit wads at people, and i witnessed several fights during breaks and me having come from a small school prior to going there i felt like a small fish in a huge pond. i couldnt deal with that place
guest

Dyersburg, TN

#16 Nov 3, 2009
Just like our country the school system has gone straight to hell. It allows students to conduct themselves however they wish. Students of the same gender are allowed to hold hands, and do god only knows whatever else they want. I do not want my child to see this type of behavior on a dauly basis. I know everyone has rights and thats all well and good, but it will not be put in front of my child or myself daily. You have students walking around wearing black clothing thinking they are satans children, if they aren't now someday they will be, ALONG WITH THE people who control and run this country and system in which some have come to blieve is the way of the times. It may very well be the way of hte times for now, but I think we might be getting a big slap in the face. God is not liking the way we are living, and treating each other. What we are allowing to happen. I do not go to church on a regularly but Ihave enough sense to know what the hell is going on around me. LooK AT OUR ECONMY, people without jobs, food, insurance etc... We better get a grip on our ways of living folks! Worst things are headed our direction, we are only in the early stages. We better hit our knees and pray for our country, school system, and each other because we allowing others to lead us straight to hell and their is no coming back!
Obama

United States

#17 Nov 3, 2009
First of all....Dr. Williams is not a "Dr."! She has an EdS which is an Education Specialist Degree but is not an actual doctorate! She can call herself what she wants but the truth is the truth!!

As for making a difference...it is a little better at the "Learning Center" but not much! They still suspend the kids there daily for no reason at all and bait these kids into arguments and altercations! And before you people get on here and start in...I've seen it many, many times because I work in the system!

As for the person talking about people holding hand and gender and sexuality....get a grip! This is about school...not your personal sexual choices and those kids have the same rights as the others!
Question

Newbern, TN

#18 Nov 3, 2009
When you say "alternative school" here what exactly are you talking about? I'm being told about a progam at DCHS for kids who aren't necessarily in trouble but who are having a hard time fitting in. My child is mentally ill but doesn't cause a lot of problems in class....just very nervous and not able to cope with all the "action" in the environment. I'm told this is called an "alternative" to regular classes. They make it sound nice and now I'm wondering if they are about to throw my child in with a bunch of violent kids.....Does this sound familiar to anyone? Is this a different program??
guest

Dyersburg, TN

#19 Nov 3, 2009
Obama wrote:
First of all....Dr. Williams is not a "Dr."! She has an EdS which is an Education Specialist Degree but is not an actual doctorate! She can call herself what she wants but the truth is the truth!!
As for making a difference...it is a little better at the "Learning Center" but not much! They still suspend the kids there daily for no reason at all and bait these kids into arguments and altercations! And before you people get on here and start in...I've seen it many, many times because I work in the system!
As for the person talking about people holding hand and gender and sexuality....get a grip! This is about school...not your personal sexual choices and those kids have the same rights as the others!
Just like you I also work for the system! That's the whole problem, everyone has rights. They might have rights but I DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM! Yes I already know how they bait these kids into arguments as you might call it. They also bully kids around at DCHS. I don't understand why it can not be seen in the records how many parents have pulled their kids out of htat school. I am sure and know for a fact that every student sent to alternative school is on a piece of paper and shows who is sending the most. I don't know who you are and could really care less. Just let me say this for the record! I watch daily some of these teachers and others who like to call themselves important in action. They truly disgust me. The way they talk about students and studenst behavior. I have seen some kids with better manners and attitude than some of these high class, over educated idiots and yet they talk about respect. Give me a break, Its all about money, who you are and yes just who might be snuggling with who. I could careless. I will take their money they pay me for doing my job, I will pay my taxes so they can keep building the high class schools that they can kick kids out of just because of a minor glitch or that they do not have time to mess with. Not because I agree with anything that they might be doing but because that is the law and I have to abide by it. Just like the big fancy jails we have with color tv's and work out rooms 3 hots and a full size bed, fine police cars to ride around in . No it is not right! So Sorry if I ruffle a few feathers on your ass but all of mine are ruffled. Everytime I sit down I feel a thorn pocking me in my ass because of people like you! I hope OBAMA saves the damn world for you , but I think you just might be in for a very rude awakeing. So sleep well OBAMA you and all your wicked ways of the world. What is will not always be!
youheardme

United States

#20 Nov 3, 2009
It is true that the kids are baited into arguments then pointed out and accused of being smartmouthed! A teacher can lie on a kid and some of the others back him up! Isnt it strange that it`s the same 3 teachers 90% of the time?!? If past students from 2 to 3 years ago were asked about the teachers they would name these same teachers. Come on now!

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