Who do you support for Governor in Tennessee in 2010?

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What difference does it make?

Forget passing the House. Feinstein is gonna have to buy off votes in the Senate:

Assault Weapons Ban Lacks Democratic Votes to Pass Senate

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-25/assa...

A proposed ban on sales of assault weapons would be defeated in the U.S. Senate today unless some members changed their current views, based on a Bloomberg review of recent lawmaker statements and interviews.

At least six of the 55 senators who caucus with Democrats have recently expressed skepticism or outright opposition to a ban, the review found. That means Democrats wouldnít have a simple 51-vote majority to pass the measure, let alone the 60 votes needed to break a Republican filibuster to bring it to a floor vote.

Reid's Senate: Stopping government like a stoppud up sink.
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Thanks! I've never been on Disability, but my Dad was, for a short period of time, when he developed his Health Problems. Then, he turned old enough to qualify for Social Security and Medicare and he was switched over, by the SS Dept., I thought. But, it may have been done when he signed up to draw his Social Security...or it may have changed since then, in the way they do it.
He was still working when his severe Health Problem began, but he was almost old enough to retire. So, I don't doubt but that your information is correct. I don't remember his exact age, but I know that he was in his 60's, when he had to quit work because of his first Surgery, the first one of many to follow.
My spouse was put on disability at 54 for severe copd. After 24 months medicare automatically kicked in. On the other hand if a person retired at 62 they cannot get medicare until the age of 65. I am 65 and now receive widow's benefits.
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And THAT, My Dear, is why you never learn anything and are Soooo misinformed! A Closed Mind will never know the truth because it has no way of learning it! How unfortunate that you're only interested in the Ideology and not in learning the truth about the Issues from any source that offers it!
And I suppose that you think you are the only supplier of truth and nothing you say has anything to do with ideology but your interpretation of the truth. You maam, are probably the most uninformed, opinionated poster on this forum - ever. The truth speaks for itself, you speaking for the truth only distorts it.
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Jan 25, 2013
 
All you gun owners better check this out.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/20701142/gu...
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There were fairly clear policy rules once upon a time. If you wanted to pass gun control, you would get up, use a bunch of kids as props and put in a Senate bill that would get the job done. Thatís still being done, but itís only the tip of the iceberg.

Obama Inc. is consolidating control over the economy which puts its minions in the position of being able to make policy through economic pressure and policy. Under Socialism, you donít have to pass a law, you just have to use your economic control to make the companies enforce the law.

Growing government control over banks and investment companies, directly and indirectly, allows those institutions to be used to target firearms manufacturers.

Cerberus was bullied into dropping the Freedom Group which includes Remington and Bushmaster. Bushmaster has become a special target for the anti-2nd amendment movement. Now Rahm Emanuel is demanding that TD Bank and Bank of America end their lines of credit to firearms manufacturers unless they come out in support of Obamaís war on the Bill of Rights.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/obam...

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What difference does it make?
Forget passing the House. Feinstein is gonna have to buy off votes in the Senate:
Assault Weapons Ban Lacks Democratic Votes to Pass Senate
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-25/assa...
A proposed ban on sales of assault weapons would be defeated in the U.S. Senate today unless some members changed their current views, based on a Bloomberg review of recent lawmaker statements and interviews.
At least six of the 55 senators who caucus with Democrats have recently expressed skepticism or outright opposition to a ban, the review found. That means Democrats wouldnít have a simple 51-vote majority to pass the measure, let alone the 60 votes needed to break a Republican filibuster to bring it to a floor vote.
Reid's Senate: Stopping government like a stoppud up sink.
Check your figures...it takes 60 Votes to break a Filibuster, NOT 51! 51 Votes is a Simple Majority...the Senate adopted the "Super" Majority Rule a few Administrations ago, and a "Super" majority takes 60 Votes!

I think there's a very good likelihood that this a case of "looking " like the President TRIED to do something, but WITHOUT actually doing anything! He would have been crucified by the Teapublicans for not TRYING to do something!
Y'all just got your Fruit of the Looms all in a Bunch over nothing!
If anything DOES pass, it'll be a Bill so watered down that they shouldn't have even wasted all this time on it! But, that's the way Politics operates when you're trying to please all of the People, on one issue!

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There were fairly clear policy rules once upon a time. If you wanted to pass gun control, you would get up, use a bunch of kids as props and put in a Senate bill that would get the job done. Thatís still being done, but itís only the tip of the iceberg.
Obama Inc. is consolidating control over the economy which puts its minions in the position of being able to make policy through economic pressure and policy. Under Socialism, you donít have to pass a law, you just have to use your economic control to make the companies enforce the law.
Growing government control over banks and investment companies, directly and indirectly, allows those institutions to be used to target firearms manufacturers.
Cerberus was bullied into dropping the Freedom Group which includes Remington and Bushmaster. Bushmaster has become a special target for the anti-2nd amendment movement. Now Rahm Emanuel is demanding that TD Bank and Bank of America end their lines of credit to firearms manufacturers unless they come out in support of Obamaís war on the Bill of Rights.
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/obam...
You just couldn't live without those Conspiracy Theories, could you? I'll bet they are the only thing that gives your Life "meaning" and without them, you'd just be lost!

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And I suppose that you think you are the only supplier of truth and nothing you say has anything to do with ideology but your interpretation of the truth. You maam, are probably the most uninformed, opinionated poster on this forum - ever. The truth speaks for itself, you speaking for the truth only distorts it.
Like everything else you post...you couldn't tell the truth if your Life depended on it! Just make it up however you want to, People like you aren't worth even trying to reason with and it's foolish to even try!
Facts don't interest you because you just make up your own , on every Issue, no matter what it is or who it is!
So, just knock yourself out, Buddy! it only makes you, and your opinion, irrelevant...as far as I'm concerned.

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All you gun owners better check this out.
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/20701142/gu...
Could be the Company Owners and /or the Majority of the Stockholders are Anti-Gun! That's what it sounds like to me! They do have that "Right", you know! And I've been reading that alot of Companies are Anti-Gun...of ANY kind!
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You just couldn't live without those Conspiracy Theories, could you? I'll bet they are the only thing that gives your Life "meaning" and without them, you'd just be lost!
No, not a conspiracy - fact. You may choose to keep your head in the sand, however don't pee down my back and tell me it's raining.

McMillan Fiberglass Stocks, McMillan Firearms Manufacturing,

McMillanGroup International have been collectively banking with Bank ofAmerica for 12 years. Today Mr. Ray Fox, Senior Vice President,Market Manager, Business Banking, Global Commercial Banking (Bank ofAmerica) came to my office.

He scheduled the meeting as an "accountanalysis" meeting in order to evaluate the two lines of credit we have with them. He spent 5 minutes talking about how McMillan has changed in the last 5 years and have become more of a firearms manufacturer than a supplier of accessories.

At this point I interrupted him and asked "Can I possibly save you some time so that you don't waste your breath? What you are going to tell me is that because we are in the firearms manufacturing business you no longer want my business." "That is correct", he says.

I replied "That is okay, we will move our accounts as soon as possible. We can find a 2nd Amendment friendly bank that will be glad to have our business. You won't mind if I tell the NRA, SCI and everyone one I know that BofA is not firearms-industry friendly?" "You have to do what you must", he said."So you are telling me this is a politically motivated decision, is that right?" Mr. Fox confirmed that it was.

At which point I told him that the meeting was over and there was nothing left for him to say. I think it is important for all Americans who believe in and support our 2nd amendment "right to keep and bear arms" should know when a business does not support these rights.

What you do with that knowledge is up to you. When I don't agree with a business' political position, I cannot, in good Conscience support them. We will soon no longer be accepting Bank of America credit cards as payment for our products.

Kelly D. McMillan
Director of Operations
McMillan Group International, LLC
1638 W Knudsen Dr
Phoenix , Arizona 85027
McMillan Integrity-Global Vision
http://www.mcmillanusa.com/
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Before you start quoting that ever reliable Snopes - my business partner just got off the phone with Kelly McMillan who is a client of ours. This is true.
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Like everything else you post...you couldn't tell the truth if your Life depended on it! Just make it up however you want to, People like you aren't worth even trying to reason with and it's foolish to even try!
Facts don't interest you because you just make up your own , on every Issue, no matter what it is or who it is!
So, just knock yourself out, Buddy! it only makes you, and your opinion, irrelevant...as far as I'm concerned.
You have yet to present one fact in any of your 1000+ posts. All of them have been strictly your opinion and bashing others for having their own opinion that differs from yours. Links to editorials are not facts. Your opinion is not a fact. References to your interpretation of current events are not facts. You can't reason with me because I am simply pointing out the obvious - in your mind, you are liberal or you are a demon. And then you call others closed minded. Your a hypocrite and I am simply calling you out on it. It's not hard to see.
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Overtaxed wrote the following in Quotes

OK---I will do this in short segments.

1.You wrote: "I believe we are all in this great experiment called the "United States" together.

Only to a leftist is this an experiment. However, all you got to do is look at history, socialism does not work. To me it is life

2.You wrote: "Some of you folks think you are self sufficient, you don't need anything from anyone ....until you do. You take for granted what is provided by all taxpayers for the benefit of all citizens which COULD NOT exist without the whole".

A true Jim Jones type of fellow. Everybody needs somebody. Everybody needs help but not to expense of their freedoms. In your mind Everybody works and everybody gets a part of the rewards. What happens when someone does not work and still wants rewards? Throw them out like the communes of the past did. Were do you throw a citizen of the U.S.??? At what point do you consider this experiment a failure. When 47% of the people don't work but get rewards, 52%, 60%,70%?????? When???? Because it is going to happen. "WHY SHOULD I WORK FOR A PAYCHECK WHEN I CAN DO NOTHING, GET ON WELFARE AND GET THE SAME AMOUNT OR MORE."

You are wanting to force people to work on what you tell them too. And if it is not 'in your mind'
going to help the whole, it is not worth doing. When over 50% consume the whole amount the other -50% can make, what happens. We put them in mines, force them to work. How many people are going to starve. We send millions of dollars worldwide for food yet we have starving right here. I think your 'pie-in-the-sky' will take this country to the precipice of destruction. Now that is my opinion. I would not be in a commune but rather raise my own food for me and my family. Yes, if some starving person came up, I would feed them, but Jesus said:"You can give a person a fish and feed him for a day or you can teach him how to fish and feed him for a lifetime" What happens when you teach him how to fish and then he refuses to fish. Do you continue to feed him or let him DIE, perhaps put him in a debtors prison away from prying eyes. There is now about 30% of the people out there that don't work and won't work. The other 15% cannot work? Who do you want to keep up?
All of them want the rewards??????

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My spouse was put on disability at 54 for severe copd. After 24 months medicare automatically kicked in. On the other hand if a person retired at 62 they cannot get medicare until the age of 65. I am 65 and now receive widow's benefits.
You are entirely correct in what you posted. But, I was not aware of the 24 months Disability Rule until it was posted, for the reason I previously explained, referencing my Dad being in his early 60's when he became ill.
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Could be the Company Owners and /or the Majority of the Stockholders are Anti-Gun! That's what it sounds like to me! They do have that "Right", you know! And I've been reading that alot of Companies are Anti-Gun...of ANY kind!
Yes you are right. but if 300 million gun totters don't do business with these companies, are the 50 million left going to keep the companies up. They have the right to do any thing they want to, but If I don't believe in it , I do not have to do business with them. They lose because in a capitalistic someone will start a business that caters to those totters much the same a liberals and conservatives alike gyrate to one part of the country or the other. In socialism, I would be forced to do business with them even if I did not agree with what their philosophy is. One other point. Philosophy is ok until you try to ram it down someones throat. Is that what I am doing to you----No. I hope that my views persuade you to the more conservative side but by no means is it forcing my opinion upon you. I can almost bet that at least one other credit card company will cater to the totters. "Yippie Caye Yeah!"

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You have yet to present one fact in any of your 1000+ posts. All of them have been strictly your opinion and bashing others for having their own opinion that differs from yours. Links to editorials are not facts. Your opinion is not a fact. References to your interpretation of current events are not facts. You can't reason with me because I am simply pointing out the obvious - in your mind, you are liberal or you are a demon. And then you call others closed minded. Your a hypocrite and I am simply calling you out on it. It's not hard to see.
Lied again, didn't you? Alot of them have been Reputable News Articles, but you will still call them a Lie , if they don't agree with your preconceived "opinions", and that's all they are..."opinions', because you don't have very many Facts. You won't read or listen to them, and that's why you, and your "opinions", are irrelevant!
Now, go bug somebody else, because I'm not interested in a thing you have to say!
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There were fairly clear policy rules once upon a time. If you wanted to pass gun control, you would get up, use a bunch of kids as props and put in a Senate bill that would get the job done. Thatís still being done, but itís only the tip of the iceberg.
Obama Inc. is consolidating control over the economy which puts its minions in the position of being able to make policy through economic pressure and policy. Under Socialism, you donít have to pass a law, you just have to use your economic control to make the companies enforce the law.
Growing government control over banks and investment companies, directly and indirectly, allows those institutions to be used to target firearms manufacturers.
Cerberus was bullied into dropping the Freedom Group which includes Remington and Bushmaster. Bushmaster has become a special target for the anti-2nd amendment movement. Now Rahm Emanuel is demanding that TD Bank and Bank of America end their lines of credit to firearms manufacturers unless they come out in support of Obamaís war on the Bill of Rights.
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/obam...
If I were the banks, Had rather lose CHICAGO than lose the rest of the country

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Yes you are right. but if 300 million gun totters don't do business with these companies, are the 50 million left going to keep the companies up. They have the right to do any thing they want to, but If I don't believe in it , I do not have to do business with them. They lose because in a capitalistic someone will start a business that caters to those totters much the same a liberals and conservatives alike gyrate to one part of the country or the other. In socialism, I would be forced to do business with them even if I did not agree with what their philosophy is. One other point. Philosophy is ok until you try to ram it down someones throat. Is that what I am doing to you----No. I hope that my views persuade you to the more conservative side but by no means is it forcing my opinion upon you. I can almost bet that at least one other credit card company will cater to the totters. "Yippie Caye Yeah!"
No, I didn't for a minute feel like you were trying to ram your philosophy down my throat and I do respect your opinion because of the way you presented it. I, also, happen to agree with alot of what you said.
The risk of losing Business is something that I'm sure the Owners took into consideration and, obviously, they didn't deem it enough of a Risk to change their Minds or their Actions. Only time will tell if they are right or wrong.
I'm going to post this again, even though I've posted it many times before...I am Liberal on somethings, mostly a Person's Right to live their own Lives and make their own decisions about their Life, as long as they aren't hurting anybody else...and about helping those in need, including our Nation itself. I believe in fair and equal for ALL, and in helping those who aren't equal to have a chance of becoming that way, economically...and providing their Life-sustaining essentials, if they never can be equal, economically. That makes me a Liberal, I guess. I think it just makes me a compassionate Human Being, but I suppose that is open to One's intrepretation of what makes a compassionate Member of the Human Race.
I am a Moderate on other issues and even, a Conservative on a few!
To my way of thinking, it's not the Ideology that matters, it's just common sense applied to benefit as many People in this Country as possible, and to do the least amount of damage to as Few as possible...and to the Country, herself, while holding true to the Principles this Nation was founded upon, as closely as possible. Considering the ways things change as time goes on, and always will, that's not an easy thing to do. But, we've always pretty much managed to do it, from the day this Nation was discovered, with a few errors, that had to be corrected, along the way...and we should always strive to continue on that path of 'bigger and better", that has served us so well for all these years. Going backwards, on any Issue or Policy, is NOT an option, for the Nation or ANY of it's People, IMO!
To quote the Military..."Either Lead, Follow, or Get Out of the Way"...is the way I see it and I don't like it, when you won't do any of the Three Choices!
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Really Sassy wrote: " I believe in fair and equal for ALL, and in helping those who aren't equal to have a chance of becoming that way, economically...and providing their Life-sustaining essentials, if they never can be equal, economically."

There is one line in the above that make you a liberal. Can you see it. Now you may not mean it that way but that is what it means by todays standards. If I were farmer and have a few acres that I worked and toiled to pay for then I would want the farmer down the road (his family left him 500 A)to split that land up along with my land and equally give it to all the farmers.NO??????????

OK lets try another. My father and mother worked at a factory all their lives to buy food and pay the bills. We never had much but it was ours. Because the food and bills took up all the money, I could not go to school to become something. Ok, I'll get a pall grant, go to school to be a business person on Wall Street.(that pall grant does not have to be paid back, it is just free money taken from someone else and you say it is taxes not taken.) When I find a job, my taxes will help someone else. Oh, wait a minute. because I am on Wall street I have to turn over 60-70% of my hard earned money (notice how everybody's money is hard earned regardless how they got it). That's not right----OOPS

Have you guessed it yet??? Well----"I believe in fair and equal for ALL" This means that all of the above are true. Not everyone can be equal whether it is body size, looks, IQ, etc. To try and make everyone equal is a "pie-in-the-sky" look at things. The only problem is that once these people (we help get equal) get there, they don't want to be equal any more. No I worked my way up here. Just because he divided ACres up, I have been the one to make them work or so-what if I had a pall grant, I was the one who studied and worked for that degree. I deserve this job and no I am not turning most all of my hard earned money over.

And the Pendulum swings in a different direction.

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