Josh

Kenosha, WI

#161 Mar 23, 2013
Sorry for the typos... Phones auto correct
guest

Dyersburg, TN

#162 Mar 24, 2013
Josh wrote:
Sorry for the typos... Phones auto correct
Don't worry about the errors, you told it EXACTLY like it is! I sure hate to see folks get sucked up into this thing, they prey on folks going thru hard times, the "get rich quick" crowd, or the young ones just entering the job market that has little or no experience and will fall for almost any sales pitch. And of course they'll accept ANYONE that has the money to join.

If nothing else got me it would be their own statement that only 3% will ever make any money from this. Meaning 97% will lose most or all their money. About the only thing with worse odds is the lottery!
Seriously

Dyersburg, TN

#163 Mar 25, 2013
It is joke for MOST involved. There are a few that have made it but you can count them on one hand pretty much.
guest

Dallas, TX

#164 Mar 26, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
so have you heard of Pampered Chef, Mary kay well they worked~
Avon... passion parties... tuperware... mary kay... i can think of a million successful buisnesses and bus ppl.
Cold Hard Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#165 Apr 5, 2013
Well, Josh hit the nail on the head. Bravo.

I have a few people on my Facebook who constantly post pictures with that blue sign (many of which aren't even at a "DreamTrip" location) and statuses about how great their company is (without naming it), how they're "making money just living" and all the other typical WV talking points. Well, guess who I saw working at a food concession stand at the state fair, selling corn dogs? That's right, two WV sheep. But I thought they were making money while they slept?! That's what their Facebook statuses said?! I guess sweating over a hot grill in the 90 degree weather was just for the fun of it? Doubt it, after seeing the embarrassing looks on their faces when they made eye contact with my friends; who they unsuccessfully tried to sign up, by boasting about how great of an opportunity it is and how great their lives were because of WV.

Stear clear folks.
wimp you cry to much

Dayton, OH

#166 Apr 11, 2013
Scared...
Guest wrote:
I just did a google search on this and found out a LOT of negative crap about it.
I find my cruises and vacations online and NO ONE has ever been able to beat what I can do for myself online.....
funnee

Bells, TN

#167 Apr 11, 2013
meee wrote:
contact jodie jernigan king on fb she will let u know all about worldventures she is a dyersburg native and doing great with her membership... even has the company paying for her own bmw
Yea she may have this company paying for a BMW but she had a much nicer car before that so technically she downgraded..lol but shr has to drive one in order to convince others they need to do what she does to get what she has.. It's all a bunch of over rated travel that requires you to decieve people to draw them in... wonder if she plainly told people that it is only a monthly vehicle allowance that is based on your rank and numbers which will drop or discipate when your rank and numbers fall.. essentially u put in more effort than working a 40 hr a week job. She has always been good at "putting on" though ,so being deceptive is nothing to her.
Tommy

United States

#168 Apr 11, 2013
Awww looks like a WV titty baby got upset
run

Jackson, TN

#170 Apr 11, 2013
While NOT ILLEGAL, World Ventures does work off the old "Puramid Scheme" setup. You PAY CASH to recruit people, and make it back from the cash of your recruits. Logically, someone has to lose money for you to get paid.

However, as they do offer actual vacations and travel services, this is not a crime. One could argue that your money also paid for your access to their exclusive vaccation deals,(which are consistently higher than Travelocity, Expedia, or even face-value hotel expenses.) The packages are a rip off, as is the recruitment, but its legal. And realistically, if you can sucker in enough of your fellow saps, you actually can profit. So long as the there is a lower rung on the ladder to pay for your mistake.

They don't lie to you. the just hide the truth in pretty words and motivational hotel "pep rallies." Most of the atendees are still buying into it themselves, so they come across as very sincere and enthused. but if you notice, none of them are really making money. Hmms.

Dont be fooled, most of these people are faking smiles to make their money back, even hoping your money will recoup their losses. My advice- dont get up in arms, this thing is huge and there's nothing you can do. Just look out for yourself and your loved ones and keep your wallet closed.
Got it

San Jose, CA

#171 Apr 19, 2013
Just Wondering wrote:
I meant I'm not interested in signing on myself. I have very close family members who are really struggling as it is and thinking about getting in on this "great opportunity." I was looking for someone who actually benefits from the service provided because common sense will tell you that if people are signing up and not using the service, they are forced to either sell it themselves or cancel the membership. Mary Kay and Pampered Chef sell products so people get exactly what they pay for. These people are getting their closest friends and family to pay $1000/yr so they can get their membership paid for, but I want to hear from someone who has been in it longer than a couple of months say that it is still lucrative. I came to Topix because I don't want anyone trying to sell it to me. I just want the feedback. I don't want my closest family members having on their conscience that they put their friends and families out hundreds of dollars and gave them nothing in return. Sounds to me like they are selling an opportunity to make money rather than the travel benefits. So if you think it's so great, is it because you're hustling friends and family to get your money back or because it is a great service that you are providing? If your answer is still yes it's a great service, how long have you been involved?
6 month, love it!!! How do I contact you?
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San Jose, CA

#172 Apr 19, 2013
run wrote:
While NOT ILLEGAL, World Ventures does work off the old "Puramid Scheme" setup. You PAY CASH to recruit people, and make it back from the cash of your recruits. Logically, someone has to lose money for you to get paid.
However, as they do offer actual vacations and travel services, this is not a crime. One could argue that your money also paid for your access to their exclusive vaccation deals,(which are consistently higher than Travelocity, Expedia, or even face-value hotel expenses.) The packages are a rip off, as is the recruitment, but its legal. And realistically, if you can sucker in enough of your fellow saps, you actually can profit. So long as the there is a lower rung on the ladder to pay for your mistake.
They don't lie to you. the just hide the truth in pretty words and motivational hotel "pep rallies." Most of the atendees are still buying into it themselves, so they come across as very sincere and enthused. but if you notice, none of them are really making money. Hmms.
Nice...you sound like an expert.
Dont be fooled, most of these people are faking smiles to make their money back, even hoping your money will recoup their losses. My advice- dont get up in arms, this thing is huge and there's nothing you can do. Just look out for yourself and your loved ones and keep your wallet closed.
Nice you sound like an expert.
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San Jose, CA

#173 Apr 19, 2013
wimp you cry to much wrote:
Scared...
<quoted text>
google MIT, Harvard, Standford? over 200-400K to get educated.
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San Jose, CA

#174 Apr 19, 2013
Cold Hard Truth wrote:
Well, Josh hit the nail on the head. Bravo.
I have a few people on my Facebook who constantly post pictures with that blue sign (many of which aren't even at a "DreamTrip" location) and statuses about how great their company is (without naming it), how they're "making money just living" and all the other typical WV talking points. Well, guess who I saw working at a food concession stand at the state fair, selling corn dogs? That's right, two WV sheep. But I thought they were making money while they slept?! That's what their Facebook statuses said?! I guess sweating over a hot grill in the 90 degree weather was just for the fun of it? Doubt it, after seeing the embarrassing looks on their faces when they made eye contact with my friends; who they unsuccessfully tried to sign up, by boasting about how great of an opportunity it is and how great their lives were because of WV.
Stear clear folks.
no vision!!! you are looking at now, what will tomorrow bring for you? Yeah the same...you should joint to educate yourself.
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San Jose, CA

#175 Apr 19, 2013
Seriously wrote:
It is joke for MOST involved. There are a few that have made it but you can count them on one hand pretty much.
How many play tittle league baseball, how many play in the big leages. This business is no different. Success is for those who wants it....do you want success, how bad? this just form of marketing. Is pricline beeing scam for using 2billion on advertising...it made 5 billion. i think its a great deal. they dont charge you to come and learn.
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San Jose, CA

#176 Apr 19, 2013
Josh wrote:
Just like Primerica. You should NEVER have to put money into a company to work for them. SCAM! All pyramid schemes get young people with nice presentations & that company car trick. Usually a Benz, Audi, and in this case a BMW.
You are selling an "invisible" product/service. A product that does NOT benefit the person investing money into, but rather the person selling the product. Think about it... Why does their company have to recruit everyone? If the deal is sooooo good, shouldn't people be calling & standing in line for it? Like the schemes that sell "life insurance," then you realize you really have nothing, that's what this is. For the people paying per month, what ULTIMATELY do they gain? Not ONE person "working" for thirst company can simply answer that without the "financial freedom" crap. All they'll be able to do is reiterate that presentation because they've made a little money off them. And I stress "work," because you aren't running your own business lol, oldest trick in the book. If you are running your own business, why don't you work out of an office? You have no home location, and other businesses DON'T let you set up shop inside because they know its a scam. You do what's called "kitchen table" meetings, because they feel in someones home sells best... Right.
These are the MOST unethical opportunities out there. That's why if you ever notice, the only people who sign up to sell this, are puerile who are either young & dumb thinking its a way to get rich quick (remember that BMW), or people struggling with money. These scams get you with that fake title promotion as well, which really holds no weight on a resume. I knew to run when they said I could advance to being a regional vice president after 6 months of work. With no degree or experience, just by referrals. Then when you do put it on a resume, other companies will laugh at you because you really don't have the responsibilities of someone with that position.
Really, I knew to run when there was NO interview. Just that presentation then "background check," which by the way... I didn't have any proper documentation with me for the last pyramid scheme I jokingly listened to, and they were STILL going to okay me to work lol... Now WHAT CREDIBLE employer hires like that????
Run. Seriously. Young people, start somewhere else. This isn't how real businesses are run. You don't have a customer base to work with for a reason, because there are none unless you "recruit" them. That tells you enough right there. Honestly, young people looking to make it, just work elsewhere.
Seriously people this is a great place to learn sales...the most noble profession, without sales works can't work, no products would move.
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San Jose, CA

#177 Apr 19, 2013
wimp you cry to much wrote:
Scared...
<quoted text>
good job!!! you should recruit so you can share you great savings...what so wrong about that?
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San Jose, CA

#178 Apr 19, 2013
Josh wrote:
Just like Primerica. You should NEVER have to put money into a company to work for them. SCAM! All pyramid schemes get young people with nice presentations & that company car trick. Usually a Benz, Audi, and in this case a BMW.
You are selling an "invisible" product/service. A product that does NOT benefit the person investing money into, but rather the person selling the product. Think about it... Why does their company have to recruit everyone? If the deal is sooooo good, shouldn't people be calling & standing in line for it? Like the schemes that sell "life insurance," then you realize you really have nothing, that's what this is. For the people paying per month, what ULTIMATELY do they gain? Not ONE person "working" for thirst company can simply answer that without the "financial freedom" crap. All they'll be able to do is reiterate that presentation because they've made a little money off them. And I stress "work," because you aren't running your own business lol, oldest trick in the book. If you are running your own business, why don't you work out of an office? You have no home location, and other businesses DON'T let you set up shop inside because they know its a scam. You do what's called "kitchen table" meetings, because they feel in someones home sells best... Right.
These are the MOST unethical opportunities out there. That's why if you ever notice, the only people who sign up to sell this, are puerile who are either young & dumb thinking its a way to get rich quick (remember that BMW), or people struggling with money. These scams get you with that fake title promotion as well, which really holds no weight on a resume. I knew to run when they said I could advance to being a regional vice president after 6 months of work. With no degree or experience, just by referrals. Then when you do put it on a resume, other companies will laugh at you because you really don't have the responsibilities of someone with that position.
Really, I knew to run when there was NO interview. Just that presentation then "background check," which by the way... I didn't have any proper documentation with me for the last pyramid scheme I jokingly listened to, and they were STILL going to okay me to work lol... Now WHAT CREDIBLE employer hires like that????
Run. Seriously. Young people, start somewhere else. This isn't how real businesses are run. You don't have a customer base to work with for a reason, because there are none unless you "recruit" them. That tells you enough right there. Honestly, young people looking to make it, just work elsewhere.
Josh you sum this up Perfect!!! You were looking for a job!!! A standard business!!! The reason it does not make sence to you is clear. This is direct sale, person to person. You don't like product fine, you don't understand the system, fine too. I like the tempary payment, it's in sentive for people to share a good idea. In my point of view it's a good motiviator...and that is all it's for. I found my 4 who found there 4 and they are finding there four. I don't see the hank up. A company produce something of worth to a cusomer who promote that product and get rewarded for finding new customer. Who create a large team gets rewarded. Perfect capalistic model. So josh when you can make a living, then realize that it's not adiquite 10-20 yrs from now, this will make all perfect sence to you. Good Luck.
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San Jose, CA

#179 Apr 19, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Come back in one year and if you have worked your butt off and bugged and nagged the crap out of all your friends and relatives, and are 1 of the lucky 3% that ever makes a dime off this pyramid scheme, then you can post "I told you so" on here. But right now you don't know diddledy, only what some hot shot, high pressure, salesman has told you.
I will GUARANTEE you that I can beat ANY price you can get me for any trip just by simply looking on the web. I am retired and average a trip about every 2 months, I'd be all over this if it was cheaper. Believe me, IT AIN'T!
vacationing at motel 6 It Ain't either!
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San Jose, CA

#180 Apr 19, 2013
live and let live wrote:
Believe an actor (WC Fields) said it best. THEIR'S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE.
With that said you have to ask yourself how this business makes it money? By selling vacations or selling ways to get better prices on vacation? Why would vacation spots pay to give away better prices to another business? Why not just advertise your better prices and cut out the middle man?
IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK, QUACKS LIKE A DUCK....IT'S A DUCK.
But, if you people are still convinced this ISN'T a scam, I have have a few bridges to sell you.
dude you hit the right button...why would another company give better rates when the can advertise for higher prices. Boom...why not lower your prices and not have to advertise!!! welcome to worldventures, we find you customer "vacation club members" for lower rates...Hotels still make thes same profit margin with out the risk of advertising!!! Bing go...we have a winner. Is this a surprise to anybody.
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San Jose, CA

#181 Apr 19, 2013
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