No God, No Heaven, No Hell
Were you

Pineville, KY

#659 May 16, 2013
DragonFly wrote:
That is a terrible argument!You weren't there when Abraham Lincoln was born either, but do you believe that he was real? You just blew WithintheWoods argument about atheists being intelligent! LOL!
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No nO no lol I was meaning he was saying Jesus wasn't the son of god blah blah blah.......... SO I was asking how doesn't he know "the truth" Since in is comment he said here's the truth.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#661 May 16, 2013
Were you wrote:
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OH you were born and there when Jesus was? How do you know "the truth"
"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it."

--André Gide
Ben

United States

#662 May 20, 2013
"The truth is a lie to those that refuse to see. Sight is given to those who seek. It is they that shall be enlightened."

--O.B. Cobb
Truth

United States

#663 May 20, 2013
Jesus_Believer

Montgomery, AL

#664 Jun 12, 2013
This is so appalling it is so sad that so many do not believe in Our Lord Jesus Christ and how He came and was resurrected from the dead... and THERE IS A HELL AND A HEAVEN AND A GOD AND JESUS CHRIST... we all fall short of His glory, but that is why this world is going through all it is, BECAUSE people with such disbelief and their sins have corrupted this world and God is showing the people "REPENT" if they do the the world will be saved.... and those who REFUSE to BELIEVE are doomed.... check these out : New Testament views hell (Gehenna, as Jesus calls it, the place of incineration, Matt. 5:22; 18:9) as the final abode of those consigned to eternal punishment at the Last Judgment (Matt. 25:41-46; Rev. 20:11-15).

It is thought of as a place of fire and darkness (Jude 7, 13), of weeping and grinding of teeth (Matt. 8:12; 13:42, 50; 22:13; 24:51; 25:30), of destruction (2 Thess. 1:7-9; 2 Pet. 3:7; 1 Thess. 5:3), and of torment (Rev. 20:10; Luke 16:23)—in other words, of total distress and misery.
All star

Benton, KY

#665 Jun 12, 2013
Dyer Resident wrote:
There are thousands of religions in the world and christians think they know the truth...they cant even agree on any part of the bible as shown by their many many denominations and cults. It is just more superstious nonsense. Who says Budda or Mohamid isnt the ones who have it right. Why is your particular superstition the correct one??? Im not saying there is no higher power, One thing I am 100 percent sure of is I dont know and neither do you.
Your a sinner
Jesus_Believer

Montgomery, AL

#666 Jun 12, 2013
Everyone is a sinner we all fall short of the Glory of God, that does not make anyone better than the other one.... and noone can get to heaven unless they REPENT of their sins, that includes, cursing, lying, drinking, sleeping around not being married, stealing, killing people, and causing being hateful, full of pride and being boastful, and there is so many more I can list.

Anyone who thinks they are mightier than GOD will not make it to heaven...and the world will see that there is a Heaven and a Hell very soon....if they do not repent. If, you need proof of there being a Hell I suggest anyone to open their bibles and READ....the Bible is the truth and God cannot and will not lie.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#667 Jun 12, 2013
Jesus_Believer wrote:
This is so appalling it is so sad that so many do not believe in Our Lord Jesus Christ and how He came and was resurrected from the dead... and THERE IS A HELL AND A HEAVEN AND A GOD AND JESUS CHRIST... we all fall short of His glory, but that is why this world is going through all it is, BECAUSE people with such disbelief and their sins have corrupted this world and God is showing the people "REPENT" if they do the the world will be saved.... and those who REFUSE to BELIEVE are doomed.... check these out : New Testament views hell (Gehenna, as Jesus calls it, the place of incineration, Matt. 5:22; 18:9) as the final abode of those consigned to eternal punishment at the Last Judgment (Matt. 25:41-46; Rev. 20:11-15).
It is thought of as a place of fire and darkness (Jude 7, 13), of weeping and grinding of teeth (Matt. 8:12; 13:42, 50; 22:13; 24:51; 25:30), of destruction (2 Thess. 1:7-9; 2 Pet. 3:7; 1 Thess. 5:3), and of torment (Rev. 20:10; Luke 16:23)—in other words, of total distress and misery.
Thank you for sharing your mythology with us, but we've heard it all before.
Didn't make any sense then nor does it now.
Yahweh is as real as Thor, Zeus, and Aphrodite.
BoLt

United States

#668 Jun 14, 2013
Thanks for sharing your OPINION with us, but we've heard it all before.

You haven't made any sense before nor do you now.

You are a legend in your own mind. Now go away and go look in the mirror and keep telling yourself how intelligent you are!
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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Thank you for sharing your mythology with us, but we've heard it all before.
Didn't make any sense then nor does it now.
Yahweh is as real as Thor, Zeus, and Aphrodite.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#669 Jun 14, 2013
BoLt wrote:
Thanks for sharing your OPINION with us, but we've heard it all before.
You haven't made any sense before nor do you now.
You are a legend in your own mind. Now go away and go look in the mirror and keep telling yourself how intelligent you are!
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No proof = no belief.
See, it's simple, logical, and rational.

I am, I suppose, only average in intelligence.
Never claimed brilliance.

However, I am smart enough to know a myth when I read one.
Apparently you are not.
BoLt

United States

#670 Jun 17, 2013
Again, thanks for sharing YOUR OPINION with us. But again, we've heard it all before so it's really unnessary. I can't PROVE George Washington existed. I wasn't there. Neither were you. But you believe he did. Why? Because you've read about him in the history books, etc. That requires that you have FAITH and BELIEF that those history books are correct. See, it really is that simple. You believe George Washington is not a myth, so do I. I believe that what I read in the Bible is not a myth, but you CHOOSE not to believe that. Rational? Hmmm...

What it really comes down to is what you consider proof. You consider what you READ about in the history books to be proof enough that ol' George existed but yet you want to call the Bible a book of fables about events that never happened because that is your OPINION.

The world is full of conspiracy theorists nowadays. I talked to a guy the other day who believes that NASA never went to the moon, that it was all a hoax. That is his opinion and his opinion and doubt of those events holds just as much water as your OPINION that God is a "sky fairy" or whatever title y'all are giving Him this week.
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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No proof = no belief.
See, it's simple, logical, and rational.
I am, I suppose, only average in intelligence.
Never claimed brilliance.
However, I am smart enough to know a myth when I read one.
Apparently you are not.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#671 Jun 17, 2013
BoLt wrote:
Again, thanks for sharing YOUR OPINION with us. But again, we've heard it all before so it's really unnessary. I can't PROVE George Washington existed. I wasn't there. Neither were you. But you believe he did. Why? Because you've read about him in the history books, etc. That requires that you have FAITH and BELIEF that those history books are correct. See, it really is that simple. You believe George Washington is not a myth, so do I. I believe that what I read in the Bible is not a myth, but you CHOOSE not to believe that. Rational? Hmmm...
Bad example.
No one ever claimed George Washington was an invisible superbeing.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
You have none for a "god."
BoLt wrote:
What it really comes down to is what you consider proof.
Wow. You said something I can actually agree with.
My requirements for proof are apparently more stringent than yours.
BoLt wrote:
You consider what you READ about in the history books to be proof enough that ol' George existed but yet you want to call the Bible a book of fables about events that never happened because that is your OPINION.
There are a multitude of proofs for George's life.
But still none for ol' Yahweh.
BoLt wrote:
The world is full of conspiracy theorists nowadays. I talked to a guy the other day who believes that NASA never went to the moon, that it was all a hoax. That is his opinion and his opinion and doubt of those events holds just as much water as your OPINION that God is a "sky fairy" or whatever title y'all are giving Him this week.
True..."sky fairy" is so last week.
He is now referred to as "your invisible superbeing friend."

Funny how the invisible and the non-existant look very much alike.
BoLt

United States

#672 Jun 18, 2013
Bad example, huh? AGAIN, YOUR OPINION. See a pattern here? You seem to see your OPINIONS as facts but they're only your opinions. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one but does that make yours the only one? Hardly. Okay, you didn't like the GW example so let's go back even further into the annals of time here, shall we? How about Nero, did he exist? Prove it! I don't want Wikipedia or history books or authors "opinion", I want proof!

Absurd isn't it? Did Jesus exist? How about Noah? Moses? King David? King Soloman? So do you believe that everything in the Bible is false & didn't happen or just the things that you pick and choose based on opinion?
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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Bad example.
No one ever claimed George Washington was an invisible superbeing.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
You have none for a "god."
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Wow. You said something I can actually agree with.
My requirements for proof are apparently more stringent than yours.
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There are a multitude of proofs for George's life.
But still none for ol' Yahweh.
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True..."sky fairy" is so last week.
He is now referred to as "your invisible superbeing friend."
Funny how the invisible and the non-existant look very much alike.
Fred

United States

#673 Jun 18, 2013
Oxygen is invisible. Does it not exist?

I can't see the wind either but it blew over a tree across the road. Must've been my imagination. Funny how some things that we can't see, do seem to exist. Hard to wrap our finite minds around it isn't it? Hmmm, maybe we really don't know everything after all?
Impulses

Chicago, IL

#674 Jul 12, 2013
Father, Son and Holy ghost! They are one.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#675 Jul 13, 2013
BoLt wrote:
Bad example, huh? AGAIN, YOUR OPINION. See a pattern here? You seem to see your OPINIONS as facts but they're only your opinions. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one but does that make yours the only one? Hardly. Okay, you didn't like the GW example so let's go back even further into the annals of time here, shall we? How about Nero, did he exist? Prove it! I don't want Wikipedia or history books or authors "opinion", I want proof!
Absurd isn't it? Did Jesus exist? How about Noah? Moses? King David? King Soloman? So do you believe that everything in the Bible is false & didn't happen or just the things that you pick and choose based on opinion?
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Sorry, Bolt. Forgot about you.
Wanting proof of Nero's existance is indeed absurb.
There is plenty. Your biblical heroes...not so much.
It was never claimed that Nero walked on water, survived a world-wide flood with a boatload of animals, turned a walking stick into a snake, or rose from the dead. Only that he lived, ruled, and died.
*Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.*

I think that 99%(perhaps more) of the bible is fiction.
Some of the characters named MAY have been real (and some NOT) but that doesn't in any way make the STORIES real.

The babble is no more than a collection of myths to re-enforce the Hebrew ego. "We are god's CHOSEN people. We are soooo special that we can kill anyone who doesn't agree with us."

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#676 Jul 13, 2013
Impulses wrote:
Father, Son and Holy ghost! They are one.
Absolutely! One myth.
someone new

Mahazzah, Bahrain

#677 Aug 28, 2013
Well...you're right but you're wrong. There is no evidence that heaven and hell exist, but our existence is evidence that there is some kind of force that we don't and can't completely understand that is responsible for our existence. If someone wants to call that God that's fine with me. But there is no evidence a God like deity that interacts with human affairs exist. People say God answers prayers but realistically it's a thing called the placebo effect. If you give a sick person a sugar pill and tell them it will heal them. Generally the person gets better. Praying has a similar effect. But as for what you said about Jesus...Christianity is an imitation of Egyptian mythology. The story of Jesus correlates with the Egyptian sun god horus who was born of virgin mother on the 25th of December and was crucified and resurrected on the 3rd day. The reason for this is the winter solstice. The story has been told for more than 2000 years because other cultures had a decent understanding of the solar cycles and based their religions off of it.
The George Burns

Paris, TN

#678 Sep 2, 2013
TR UTH wrote:
For two thousand years a story has evolved about God the father, Jesus the son, and the mysterious Holy Spirit. Wars have been fought between Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims and unbelievers for centuries. Today, evangelicals use the power of the pulpit to convince the educated and uneducated alike of a myth that has grown for centuries.

HERE IS THE TRUTH:

Jesus was a man, he lived for about 30 years and died. His father was a man, not a God, his mother was pregnant when she was married and Joseph raised him as his own son even though no one except Mary knew the truth. Jesus is not the SON OF GOD; therefore, he can not be the MESSIAH promised in Isiah. No man has ever RISEN FROM THE DEAD and there is simply no evidence that Jesus, the adopted son of Joseph, a carpenter from Nazareth, rose from the dead.

The only way you can accept this basic argument is by FAITH.'FAITH alone can save you,' they will suggest, because only 'blind faith,' like a child's faith, can overcome reason and human experience in believing an unbelievable or unfathomable story.

If the story of the immaculate conception and birth and resurrection are all false, then your belief in God through Jesus is based not on faith but a lie. It makes for a nice story but that is all. The truth is there is no God, no Heaven and no Hell!

I know this will start a running debate and that's good! I want people to understand all I want is for people to think about their beliefs. There is nothing wrong with faith or religion, even if it is based on a lie. But the TRUTH is out there for anyone who has the ability to search the facts.

Let the discussion begin!
Firstly, how many of these words did you have to look up?
Secondly, there are scientifically proven cases of people being brought back to life (or raised from the dead). So, that kills your argument on "No man has ever RISEN FROM THE DEAD" right there.
Thirdly, how are you so positive that there isn't a God, a Heaven, or a Hell?
And the "TRUTH" being out there for the ones that have the ability to search the facts? What?! Where did you find your "facts"?? The Internet? Because we all know that if its on the Internet, it's true. I'm a French model, by the way. Oh, I know! You read a book that was made up of some people's personal opinions. That must be truth! You researched it...equals truth! Or could it be the Liberal media telling you this?? They inform the "intelligent, free-thinkers" on how to think and what to believe, and they do it in such a way that causes these 'Liberated Zombies' to think they "think" for themselves! They MUST be the way you came to "the truth", right?
By the way, you not believing is a 'blind faith' in itself. You choose to believe by faith, or you choose to deny by faith. When we die we'll find out what's right and what's wrong. If its over, no big deal. But if there's more, only the ones that denied by faith will perish.
Alex - Europe

Darabani, Romania

#679 Sep 20, 2013
The truth is, even the God would not exist, a God should be invented so there will not be chaos on this earth. It's already bad as it is.. when some people believe in a higher power. Imagine if you'd just wake up and be able to do everything you want to... Every men and women just wondering and do whatever it cross theyre mind, no matter how wrong that would be. No laws, no hell, no after death reward, if you behave. It's all just a big lie, in order to enslave the common human. That one who is equipped with blind fate. The church was and is one of the highest form of control. It is just much easier to believe in something then judge for yourself.

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