Military kids tell how tough deployme...

Military kids tell how tough deployments can be

There are 13 comments on the Tacoma News Tribune story from Jun 9, 2008, titled Military kids tell how tough deployments can be. In it, Tacoma News Tribune reports that:

Emi Geye likely knows at least as much about how combat deployments affect soldiers' children as the psychiatrists, school counselors and pediatricians who filled the room around her Monday.

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HumanSpirit

High Springs, FL

#1 Jun 9, 2008
No doubt that the deployment of a parent is a disruption in the family life. In all the conflicts including WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Granada and Afghanistan and Iraq children have been resilient with a parent off to war and away from home. The intrusion of the mental health and counseling industry in the past prior years playing in the minds of citizens with the emotional card for profit is nothing more then a scam for psychotropic (mind) drugs and self serving for profits

We have seen the mental health deploy crisis counselors to all happening in the USA from shooting to earthquakes with the citizens, including children, stating that the MHC are an annoyance with their pestering and forced counseling sessions paid for by FEMA and other Federal and State programs and the recommendation of psychotropic (mind) drugs to create a long term patient for their industry.

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#2 Jun 9, 2008
HumanSpirit wrote:
No doubt that the deployment of a parent is a disruption in the family life. In all the conflicts including WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Granada and Afghanistan and Iraq children have been resilient with a parent off to war and away from home. The intrusion of the mental health and counseling industry in the past prior years playing in the minds of citizens with the emotional card for profit is nothing more then a scam for psychotropic (mind) drugs and self serving for profits
We have seen the mental health deploy crisis counselors to all happening in the USA from shooting to earthquakes with the citizens, including children, stating that the MHC are an annoyance with their pestering and forced counseling sessions paid for by FEMA and other Federal and State programs and the recommendation of psychotropic (mind) drugs to create a long term patient for their industry.
We have Fort Bliss here in El Paso, TX. There are Air defense units and the 1st Armored Division in moving in as well.

Counseling is offered to the military families if they feel that they need it. But, it is not mandated that they get counseling and it is not shoved down their throats.

Sorry Human Spirit, but as you live in Florida, you have absolutely no idea what's going on Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps bases with the service men and women along with the military families throughout the US and all over the world!!!

Cheers
HumanSpirit

Branford, FL

#3 Jun 10, 2008
Florida has lots of military bases and I was in the USAF and saw first hand the parasites of the mental health and counseling industry selling their hogwash, endangering the troops and bleeding the government for profits.

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#4 Jun 10, 2008
HumanSpirit wrote:
Florida has lots of military bases and I was in the USAF and saw first hand the parasites of the mental health and counseling industry selling their hogwash, endangering the troops and bleeding the government for profits.
Yes, you have plenty of military bases there in Florida. But, I rather doubt that you currently talk with any of the military personnel and their families on any of those bases.

And your statement of what you sopposedly saw personally during your service in the Air Force is balltent BS!

Cheers

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#5 Jun 10, 2008
I forgot to explain my reason for :

And your statement of what you sopposedly saw personally during your service in the Air Force is balltent BS!

Majority of military personnel don't go around talking about their mental health issues with their buddies or anyone else. And they certainly do not discuss what is going on with the families!

Cheers
HumanSpirit

Live Oak, FL

#6 Jun 10, 2008
My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you have plenty of military bases there in Florida. But, I rather doubt that you currently talk with any of the military personnel and their families on any of those bases.
And your statement of what you sopposedly saw personally during your service in the Air Force is balltent BS!
Cheers
I don't lie to what I know is truth. As a mental health jackass, a person with first hand knowledge of BS and the garbage of our society, That is what I saw, witnessed with the GI. I don't know anything about the family but rest assure if the offered VA benefits on PTSD to the GI then the mental health certainly would enticed the family, drugged them and take a dump on their heads for profits just like they did with the rest of the USA. What's you Military background and branch of service?
HumanSpirit

Live Oak, FL

#7 Jun 10, 2008
My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:
I forgot to explain my reason for :
And your statement of what you sopposedly saw personally during your service in the Air Force is balltent BS!
Majority of military personnel don't go around talking about their mental health issues with their buddies or anyone else. And they certainly do not discuss what is going on with the families!
Cheers
The mental health was the unit joke. I never did hear them talk about their families but they certainly talked about MHC and the benefits of the government VA for life with going along with the mental health game plan. When you considered the slow employment on discharge it made good sense to have coins and medical coverage. The selling point.

The MHC even advised you if the VA turned you down to visit an outside mental health worker for the second evaluation and appeal.
HumanSpirit

Live Oak, FL

#8 Jun 10, 2008
Here's a whole page of the mental health pressure applied on the GI for the life time patient and all the profits from psychotropic (mind) drugs and counseling. Take your pick.

The GI got short changed with addiction to the drugs and pennies in his pockets for the compromising of his mind while the MHC reaped the rewards. It was a bad deal.

http://www.google.com/search...

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#9 Jun 11, 2008
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I don't lie to what I know is truth. As a mental health jackass, a person with first hand knowledge of BS and the garbage of our society, 2. That is what I saw, witnessed with the GI.
3. I don't know anything about the family but rest assure if the offered VA benefits on PTSD to the GI then the mental health certainly would enticed the family, drugged them and take a dump on their heads for profits just like they did with the rest of the USA.
4. What's you Military background and branch of service?
1. I never and will never call your a liar Human Spirit. But, you have distorted the truth to your way of thinking and that is utter BS. BS if different from telling lies Human Spirit.

2. Speaking and learning from one GI isn't quite the same as interacting with a couple of thousand people.

3. The Dept of VA doesn't treat nor provide medical services to the veterans family members.

If a veteran is 100% SC, only then can their spouse be treated by the Dept of VA un the policies of CHAMPV. The children cannot and do not get treated by the Dept of VA.

4. US Army (23 years)
Vietnam (1st Aviation Brigade)
Opartions Desert Shield & Storm (3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment)
16 Foreign countries.

My father served in the Army for 21 years.

I have two cousins who served in WWII and the Korean War. Their father served in WWI and was the first tank crew to get wounded druning that war.

I have another cousin who served in Vietnam.

My family genelogy shows that my family has served in every war that the US has participated in up to Desert Shield & Storm.

Cheers

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#10 Jun 11, 2008
HumanSpirit wrote:
<quoted text>
The mental health was the unit joke. I never did hear them talk about their families but they certainly talked about MHC and the benefits of the government VA for life with going along with the mental health game plan. When you considered the slow employment on discharge it made good sense to have coins and medical coverage. The selling point.
The MHC even advised you if the VA turned you down to visit an outside mental health worker for the second evaluation and appeal.
I agree that mental health is looked upon as a joke by many within the militarty unit, unless they are the ones that have MH issues.

As for clinicians trying to help GI's before getting out of the service, what the hell is wrong in doing that. Veteran organizations are doing this throughout the United States. Reason is that when we came back from Vietnam, there was no one helping us. And so, as veterans we decided to help our veteran brothers and sisters in learning about their rights and benefits that they have earned during their military service.

I can only guess that you don't give a shit about your fellow veteran here.

And I'm beginning to see that you might just be more jealous as other vets are getting their disabilities along with VA treatment, while you might feel that you are being mistreated and cheated.

Cheers

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#11 Jun 11, 2008
HumanSpirit wrote:
Here's a whole page of the mental health pressure applied on the GI for the life time patient and all the profits from psychotropic (mind) drugs and counseling. Take your pick.
The GI got short changed with addiction to the drugs and pennies in his pockets for the compromising of his mind while the MHC reaped the rewards. It was a bad deal.
http://www.google.com/search...
Man, you really are dislusional and hateful Human Spirit.

I agree that the Dept of VA has problems and that the process involved in filing for VA SC disabilities is frustrating for all of us.

The paperwork alone is frustrating enough to cause many veteran to give up. Thus, the reasoning for providing SO's (service officers) in helping veterans filing for their SC.

And many service officers along with various veteran organizations have set up web sites in order to explain this process and what is needed to be done correctly so, that the veteran(s) don't have to jump through hoops all the time.

I've read the sites that you had provided above and I've read many more sites in te past that try helping veterans and their families. Since when is trying to help people putting pressure on them?

You know absolutly nothing about what is going on in the US in reference to veterans and their families and you are dislusional along with being so hateful at everyone out there. Go sit in the corner with your little Pitty Potty as you haven't contibuted anything of real value here.

Cheers
HumanSpirit

Branford, FL

#12 Jun 11, 2008
I see that you climbed out of your crib swinging.

I care about my fellow country men and soldiers more then you. Your a snake in the grass. A traitor to USA interests. A spy behind the front lines. You want to mind control with psychotherapy and drug the GI's for long term profits by an industry of destruction that lied to the public about a test for chemical imbalance and hurt and killed many people including children and now wants to infiltrated the military for more profits while endangering the life's of soldiers with psychotropic drugs in a war zone.

A military General worth his weight in Gold.
----------

This Military General deserves a salute by every Army Soldier, Sailor, Marine, Coast Guard and Airman who has ever served in the Armed Forces of the United States.

The president should pin a medal on him and promote him to a higher rank, if possible, if not, have Congress authorize the six star and the local tailor should increase the size of his collar to accommodate the new star.

They should honor this soldier with a marching band and a sergeant yelling "eyes right" at the podium decorated with Banners and American flags with patriotic music and military aircraft swooping down and gracing the skies. There should be fireworks in the evening.

He has my respect. He must be a West-Point graduate. Another General Robert E. Lee. A man with insight, a strategic planner. A warrior worth his weight in gold.

What did he do: The General found a indirect way through all the bull crap to curb the suicide rates in the military service and get the "behind the line traitors", the cowards of military service who were attacking our troops with vials and pills of psychotropic drugs and mental health psycho-babble BS that was threatening the soldiers lives.

He sent them to the front lines.

Mental Health Teams Deploying to Front lines With Marines in Iraq

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif

The Navy and Marine Corps are sending teams of mental health professionals to the front lines.
The move comes after studies showed a jump in the past five years in cases of combat-related mental health disorders.

Psychologists and psychiatrists have long treated military service members on bases and in field hospitals.

But the deployment of teams of psychological professionals - one per regiment - this month marks a new approach in identifying and treating mental health before problems arise.

The Army adopted a similar approach last year, and has been deploying behavioral health specialists to patrol with its troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp...

More on the drugging of American soldiers:

Baltimore Sun's article by Lisa Chedekel and Matthew Kauffman " Policies on mentally troubled troops questioned" is informative to the problems of psychotropic drug usage on the war front.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/...

“I Love Life, People & Animals”

Since: Feb 07

El Paso, Texas

#13 Jun 12, 2008
HumanSpirit wrote:
I see that you climbed out of your crib swinging.
1. I care about my fellow country men and soldiers more then you. Your a snake in the grass.
2. A traitor to USA interests. A spy behind the front lines. You want to mind control with psychotherapy and drug the GI's for long term profits by an industry of destruction that lied to the public about a test for chemical imbalance and hurt and killed many people including children and now wants to infiltrated the military for more profits while endangering the life's of soldiers with psychotropic drugs in a war zone.
A military General worth his weight in Gold.
----------
This Military General deserves a salute by every Army Soldier, Sailor, Marine, Coast Guard and Airman who has ever served in the Armed Forces of the United States.
The president should pin a medal on him and promote him to a higher rank, if possible, if not, have Congress authorize the six star and the local tailor should increase the size of his collar to accommodate the new star.
They should honor this soldier with a marching band and a sergeant yelling "eyes right" at the podium decorated with Banners and American flags with patriotic music and military aircraft swooping down and gracing the skies. There should be fireworks in the evening.
He has my respect. He must be a West-Point graduate. Another General Robert E. Lee. A man with insight, a strategic planner. A warrior worth his weight in gold.
What did he do: The General found a indirect way through all the bull crap to curb the suicide rates in the military service and get the "behind the line traitors", the cowards of military service who were attacking our troops with vials and pills of psychotropic drugs and mental health psycho-babble BS that was threatening the soldiers lives.
He sent them to the front lines.
Mental Health Teams Deploying to Front lines With Marines in Iraq
CAMP PENDLETON, Calif
3. The Navy and Marine Corps are sending teams of mental health professionals to the front lines.
The move comes after studies showed a jump in the past five years in cases of combat-related mental health disorders.
Psychologists and psychiatrists have long treated military service members on bases and in field hospitals.
But the deployment of teams of psychological professionals - one per regiment - this month marks a new approach in identifying and treating mental health before problems arise.
The Army adopted a similar approach last year, and has been deploying behavioral health specialists to patrol with its troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp...
More on the drugging of American soldiers:
4. Baltimore Sun's article by Lisa Chedekel and Matthew Kauffman " Policies on mentally troubled troops questioned" is informative to the problems of psychotropic drug usage on the war front.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/...
1. If you say so.
2. Calling me names has no effect on me.
3. Actually has been happening just a little longer than what is reported.
4. Just another newspaper from a news media that isn't always objective.

Cheers

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