City Refuse Workers

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Harold

Fredonia, NY

#1 Feb 25, 2011
Why do the City of Dunkirk Refuse workers get paid eight hours when they only work anywere from 5 1/2 to six hours?
Local Observer

Fredonia, NY

#2 Feb 25, 2011
Harold wrote:
Why do the City of Dunkirk Refuse workers get paid eight hours when they only work anywere from 5 1/2 to six hours?
I thought you were going to bed?
Leonard

Dunkirk, NY

#3 Feb 25, 2011
Harold wrote:
Why do the City of Dunkirk Refuse workers get paid eight hours when they only work anywere from 5 1/2 to six hours?
How is it that you know what hours they are paid?
Seeing Eye

Fredonia, NY

#4 Feb 26, 2011
Harold wrote:
Why do the City of Dunkirk Refuse workers get paid eight hours when they only work anywere from 5 1/2 to six hours?
I thought they got paid $ 40.00 / week and all they can eat.
KillerB3

Dunkirk, NY

#5 Mar 12, 2011
Harold wrote:
Why do the City of Dunkirk Refuse workers get paid eight hours when they only work anywere from 5 1/2 to six hours?
These men i believe are allowed to leave early as long as they finish their route.I have seen these guys run from house,they are the hardest working crew the city has.Put yourself on the back of that truck for 8 hrs. a day lifting all those bags and cans.To me that is a reward for them doing a great job and busting their asses to do a job not many could do.Don't knock a hard working man,, but a welfare leech on that truck with them and make him earn his free paycheck.
Y U Care

United States

#6 Mar 12, 2011
Harold wrote:
Why do the City of Dunkirk Refuse workers get paid eight hours when they only work anywere from 5 1/2 to six hours?
Because they don't take their lunch and 2 breaks which total 2 hrs a day.

Since: Mar 11

Dunkirk, NY

#7 Mar 12, 2011
Y U Care wrote:
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Because they don't take their lunch and 2 breaks which total 2 hrs a day.
lunch and breaks = 2 hrs ??? I hope not !
two fifteen minute breaks maybe
I don't think they get paid for lunch break so they should actually work 8 1/2 hr shift
ABC

Dunkirk, NY

#8 Mar 12, 2011
I don't think they start at 8 am. The person I know has to be there by 7 am. I really don't know what time they get out though. If you all are that concerned, call your concil person and ask what the hours are for the sanitation dept. IF they really are paid for 8 and only put in 6, then yes that is wrong---KillerB3, I mean no disrespect, but it is my tax monies paying their wages and (like so many toss in us teachers faces) we know what the job is when we take it...that is no excuse for a 6.5 hour day (not paid lunches) when 8 is what is being paid out for.

While it would be great to stick the welfare leech on a truck, or behind a rake or mower, there is probably a huge liability issue to prevent it.....darn.
Leonard

Dunkirk, NY

#9 Mar 12, 2011
There is no way they start at 8am. Most weeks mine is picked up by then.
the mare

Dunkirk, NY

#10 Mar 12, 2011
Harold wrote:
Why do the City of Dunkirk Refuse workers get paid eight hours when they only work anywere from 5 1/2 to six hours?
When they are done with they're route.They are paid for the day. It's a nasty dirty dangerous job. And they get it done as quick as they can.
barry

Jamestown, NY

#11 Mar 12, 2011
its the truth - i cant believe it , they get their job done in 4 hours and they do get paid for 8 / why cant they go do other work the city needs done for the other 4 hours ? we could have had memorial park done by them / lnstead of paying all that overtime money to one person - the mayor aint doin anything about it - wow
the mare

Dunkirk, NY

#12 Mar 13, 2011
barry wrote:
its the truth - i cant believe it , they get their job done in 4 hours and they do get paid for 8 / why cant they go do other work the city needs done for the other 4 hours ? we could have had memorial park done by them / lnstead of paying all that overtime money to one person - the mayor aint doin anything about it - wow
It usually takes them about 6 hours working straight thru. No breaks no lunch. Why don't you do that nasty job for a week.? Or is it you can't
concerned

Daytona Beach, FL

#13 Mar 13, 2011
barry wrote:
its the truth - i cant believe it , they get their job done in 4 hours and they do get paid for 8 / why cant they go do other work the city needs done for the other 4 hours ? we could have had memorial park done by them / lnstead of paying all that overtime money to one person - the mayor aint doin anything about it - wow
First of all I don't want the job, early mornings, rain and snow. A mayor tired to get them to work 8 hours a day and the garbage never got picked up in an 8 hour shift. The guys worked a regular pace. So they went back to the system they have now. Bust your ass, run like heck and when you're done you go home. It's called incentive. Can you imaging if we got the Welfare dept to do that. Instead of handling 8 cases a day they could handle 20, get rid of half the people working there and get more work done. The garbage man issue is a simple one, don't knock it unless you've tried it, and I don't want to.
welfare

Arcade, NY

#14 Mar 13, 2011
concerned wrote:
<quoted text> First of all I don't want the job, early mornings, rain and snow. A mayor tired to get them to work 8 hours a day and the garbage never got picked up in an 8 hour shift. The guys worked a regular pace. So they went back to the system they have now. Bust your ass, run like heck and when you're done you go home. It's called incentive. Can you imaging if we got the Welfare dept to do that. Instead of handling 8 cases a day they could handle 20, get rid of half the people working there and get more work done. The garbage man issue is a simple one, don't knock it unless you've tried it, and I don't want to.
Concerned , you would bitc* no matter what the welfare dept did. The name of this discussion is called city refuse workers, how does that relate to the welfare dept? You're bashing people who have very difficult and stressful jobs, they're NOT the enemy. Do you think the welfare workers like how things are done any more than you do? What makes you think 8 cases per day are handled? Do you know anything about the job or are you just imagining you know?

Since: Mar 11

Dunkirk, NY

#15 Mar 13, 2011
I am sure the hours are 7am to 3:30pm for an 8 hr day
no way should they be allowed to go home early , let them take their breaks and work in the shop doing painting, light maintenance, cleanup, Something !!
I think the guys trade off when possible taking turns driving to ease their "stress"
What about night crews coming in to plow snow ?
And if it doesn't snow they should leave with 8 hrs pay also ? Mow the lawn in summer and go home early, where does it stop ?
Dutchess

Silver Creek, NY

#16 Mar 13, 2011
concerned wrote:
<quoted text> First of all I don't want the job, early mornings, rain and snow. A mayor tired to get them to work 8 hours a day and the garbage never got picked up in an 8 hour shift. The guys worked a regular pace. So they went back to the system they have now. Bust your ass, run like heck and when you're done you go home. It's called incentive. Can you imaging if we got the Welfare dept to do that. Instead of handling 8 cases a day they could handle 20, get rid of half the people working there and get more work done. The garbage man issue is a simple one, don't knock it unless you've tried it, and I don't want to.
Excellent post, Concerned. The "incentive system" - I like that!
concerned

Daytona Beach, FL

#17 Mar 13, 2011
Dutchess wrote:
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Excellent post, Concerned. The "incentive system" - I like that!
Hi Dutchess, if you are who I think we may be on vacation in April together. With our spouses of course. See you in a few weeks.
Leonard

Dunkirk, NY

#18 Mar 13, 2011
I once had a job where when my route was done, I was done for the day. I was paid for 40 hours. Most weeks I worked 30 hours. A few weeks a year I worked 55 (and still accepted the 40 hr check).

Typically this kind of arraigement is for high stress, brutal work, and I think the refuse guys certainly fall into that category.
concerned

Daytona Beach, FL

#19 Mar 13, 2011
welfare wrote:
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Concerned , you would bitc* no matter what the welfare dept did. The name of this discussion is called city refuse workers, how does that relate to the welfare dept? You're bashing people who have very difficult and stressful jobs, they're NOT the enemy. Do you think the welfare workers like how things are done any more than you do? What makes you think 8 cases per day are handled? Do you know anything about the job or are you just imagining you know?
I was a businessman for years in the area. I had to go to the Welfare office to talk about some of my customers. While I sat there and waited I witnessed workers walking around wasting time and being non productive while I sat there waiting. After 45 minutes of waiting the girl I saw shooting the shit for 45 minutes asked if she could help me. I wasn't looking for a hand out I was there to see about other issues.$5 minutes waiting while she talked. There were many just like her. Again, are they all bad? NO! but the few lazy ones are the ones that stick out and you protect them. Have a great day and remember, be productive that's what you're getting paid for!
From out of the Blue

Fredonia, NY

#20 Mar 13, 2011
I live in the country, and my rural carrier has that kind of a day as mentioned in post # 18.

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