Spring Break White House Tour
Phil

Fredonia, NY

#65 Apr 6, 2013
BFD wrote:
As usual Joe posts his opinion instead of facts.
just what are the facts gusinski
Clyde10

Cranberry Twp, PA

#66 Apr 7, 2013
Hammer wrote:
<quoted text>Baloney that I am wrong,you are wrong AGAIN! The money in 2007 was directed to Fatah and not Hamas. Show me where Hamas got any of those funds? The IMF tells us we have to give our money to people who launch indiscriminate attacks on innocent women and kids and Obama does it despite the fact we don't have the money to fund programs here at home. Do you sell snake oil on the side? I know your game and its readily apparent you support the far far left tax and spend Obama crowd. Nothing more to say to you since you have been bought out like others who voted for "change you can believe in" or almost four and a half years of BS!
Wow. What a pathetic display of blind loyalty. When confronted with indisputable facts that your guy did the same thing you've criticized the other guy for doing, instead of being consistent and acknowledging that your guy was wrong as well, manufacture false distinctions, and when those are exposed - resort to labels and name calling. How very, very sad.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#67 Apr 7, 2013
Hammer wrote:
<quoted text>Baloney that I am wrong,you are wrong AGAIN! The money in 2007 was directed to Fatah and not Hamas. Show me where Hamas got any of those funds? The IMF tells us we have to give our money to people who launch indiscriminate attacks on innocent women and kids and Obama does it despite the fact we don't have the money to fund programs here at home. Do you sell snake oil on the side? I know your game and its readily apparent you support the far far left tax and spend Obama crowd. Nothing more to say to you since you have been bought out like others who voted for "change you can believe in" or almost four and a half years of BS!
took 5 min to prove you wrong joe hamas, try google sometimes you may learn something..
http://mobile.wnd.com/2007/01/39596/
Hammer

Fredonia, NY

#68 Apr 7, 2013
Clyde10 wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. What a pathetic display of blind loyalty. When confronted with indisputable facts that your guy did the same thing you've criticized the other guy for doing, instead of being consistent and acknowledging that your guy was wrong as well, manufacture false distinctions, and when those are exposed - resort to labels and name calling. How very, very sad.
You might want to AGAIN look at the facts,show me how things were the same? don't try the "my" guy "your" guy BS. Not even close to the same thing!!!!!! Do you as well agree with what your dummy friend Gusinski posted as well? Way too funny that he posted exactly what I was saying!

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#69 Apr 7, 2013
Hammer wrote:
<quoted text>You might want to AGAIN look at the facts,show me how things were the same? don't try the "my" guy "your" guy BS. Not even close to the same thing!!!!!! Do you as well agree with what your dummy friend Gusinski posted as well? Way too funny that he posted exactly what I was saying!
hey moron I showed how your hamas got those funds , which you claimed they didn't ... see now you are finding out you needed an eduction after all. it's still not to late to get one joe.
Clyde10

Cranberry Twp, PA

#70 Apr 7, 2013
Hammer wrote:
<quoted text>You might want to AGAIN look at the facts,show me how things were the same? don't try the "my" guy "your" guy BS. Not even close to the same thing!!!!!! Do you as well agree with what your dummy friend Gusinski posted as well? Way too funny that he posted exactly what I was saying!
I've explained it five times. Each false difference you've tried to make, I've debunked. Each time, you've come up with a new distinction, which I have shown to be false in turn. Do I need to repeat all my previous posts? Let's remind you of just the first one.

You originally claimed that the difference was that Bush gave aid to the Palestinians before Hamas took control of the Palesitnian Authority. I proved that false by pointing out that Fatah and Hamas split and Hamas gained control in the elections in January 2006, before the 2007 aid was given by Bush. Do I need to repeat my debunking of each of the other false distinctions you came up with?
Hammer

Fredonia, NY

#71 Apr 7, 2013
Why not stop trying to manipulate what really happened with the funds and how Hamas ended up with some of it? Your surrogate gusinski even posted what happened and then tries to weasel out of what he posted simply because he cant read,what is your excuse?
Clyde10

Cranberry Twp, PA

#72 Apr 7, 2013
Hammer wrote:
Why not stop trying to manipulate what really happened with the funds and how Hamas ended up with some of it? Your surrogate gusinski even posted what happened and then tries to weasel out of what he posted simply because he cant read,what is your excuse?
What the hell are you talking about? My point is that you're inconsistent. You don't criticize Bush for doing the same things for which you criticize Obama. I've not defended either one. Gusinski's post indicated that money given by Bush in 2007 ended up in the hands of Hamas. You criticize Obama for giving money to the Palestinian Authority because of that possibility. But you won't criticize Bush for the very same thing.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#73 Apr 7, 2013
Hammer wrote:
<quoted text>Baloney that I am wrong,you are wrong AGAIN! The money in 2007 was directed to Fatah and not Hamas. Show me where Hamas got any of those funds? The IMF tells us we have to give our money to people who launch indiscriminate attacks on innocent women and kids and Obama does it despite the fact we don't have the money to fund programs here at home. Do you sell snake oil on the side? I know your game and its readily apparent you support the far far left tax and spend Obama crowd. Nothing more to say to you since you have been bought out like others who voted for "change you can believe in" or almost four and a half years of BS!
you stated show me where Hamas got any of those funds, I did.. now weasle your way out pencil neck . Joe you denied it ever got to the Hamas as stated above and needed proof which I provided . you are nut.
Dan T

Fredonia, NY

#74 Apr 7, 2013
You guys better explain this the best you can. After all you are dealing with Joe here. Facts bounce off his thick skull.
Hammer

Fredonia, NY

#75 Apr 8, 2013
Clyde10 wrote:
<quoted text>
What the hell are you talking about? My point is that you're inconsistent. You don't criticize Bush for doing the same things for which you criticize Obama. I've not defended either one. Gusinski's post indicated that money given by Bush in 2007 ended up in the hands of Hamas. You criticize Obama for giving money to the Palestinian Authority because of that possibility. But you won't criticize Bush for the very same thing.
This is from what your surrogate posted,do you see the difference,he sure couldn't.
U.S. officials confirmed the financial aid is set to be transferred to Fatah.

The multi-million-dollar grant will be used to “assist the Palestinian Authority presidency in fulfilling PA commitments under the Road Map (peace plan) to dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism and establish law and order in the West Bank and Gaza,” a U.S. government document said.

Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2007/01/39596/#kyZZWkmU...

the money recently transferred did not have those stipulations! I have nothing further to say on this subject except try and get your friend in Washington to stop the silly closings just to make people hurt. Adios
Clyde10

Cranberry Twp, PA

#76 Apr 8, 2013
Hammer wrote:
<quoted text>This is from what your surrogate posted,do you see the difference,he sure couldn't.
U.S. officials confirmed the financial aid is set to be transferred to Fatah.
The multi-million-dollar grant will be used to “assist the Palestinian Authority presidency in fulfilling PA commitments under the Road Map (peace plan) to dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism and establish law and order in the West Bank and Gaza,” a U.S. government document said.
Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2007/01/39596/#kyZZWkmU...
the money recently transferred did not have those stipulations! I have nothing further to say on this subject except try and get your friend in Washington to stop the silly closings just to make people hurt. Adios
So, this is supposed difference number, what, seven? You're wrong, again.(Detect a pattern yet?)
The money that was just released by Obama has the same restrictions on its use. It is, in fact, the same program of aid that has been given each year since 2007. Congress had frozen the money and Obama just released it (again, I'm not defending or criticizing that decision). This isn't a new aid program.

Are you actually contending that the Obama Administration is giving money directly to Hamas for the purpose of supporting terrorism? Seriously? Even you can't be that gullible to the right wing conspiracy theorists.
Tax Payer

Fredonia, NY

#77 Apr 8, 2013
Clyde10

Mckeesport, PA

#78 Apr 8, 2013
Tax Payer wrote:
http://www.soopermexican.com/2 013/03/23/obama-releases-500-m illion-of-frozen-cash-to-pales tinian-authority/ interesting si?
.

Wow. That added alot to the dialogue. What's next, links to The National Enquirer and a story about Obama's secret martian love child?
aahh

Fredonia, NY

#79 Apr 8, 2013
The White House tours were canceled, so they can pay for all those vacations that the family takes! Not to mention his golf outings also!
mitt didnt lose

Auburndale, FL

#80 Apr 8, 2013
aahh wrote:
The White House tours were canceled, so they can pay for all those vacations that the family takes! Not to mention his golf outings also!
true dat2!
Dan T

Fredonia, NY

#81 Apr 8, 2013
aahh wrote:
The White House tours were canceled, so they can pay for all those vacations that the family takes! Not to mention his golf outings also!
And your proof of this is what ?
Dan T

Fredonia, NY

#82 Apr 8, 2013
Tax Payer wrote:
http://www.soopermexican.com/2 013/03/23/obama-releases-500-m illion-of-frozen-cash-to-pales tinian-authority/ interesting si?
This "news source" is about as credible as Fox.
Money Bags

Fredonia, NY

#83 Apr 10, 2013
Another wonderful example of tax money being squandered.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/safe-sequ...
aahh

Fredonia, NY

#84 Apr 10, 2013
Dan T wrote:
<quoted text>
And your proof of this is what ?
Don't ya know, the government is broke, the deficit is getting higher (what about that campaign promise to lower it), giving rights to and paying for illegal aliens, then we have ALL those vacations that they take, something has to give, so the White House Tours (surprised that has not been condemned as a racial slur yet) have been cancelled! The family outings continue! Wish I could send my kids to the Caribbean on a nice Jet, guarded with all expenses paid!

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