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jjd

Fredonia, NY

#1 Sep 14, 2012
Any truth in talk of carriage house packin up and going to kentucky anyone?
American

Fredonia, NY

#2 Sep 14, 2012
jjd wrote:
Any truth in talk of carriage house packin up and going to kentucky anyone?
Wouldn't surprise me a bit,no toll booths on the Interstates in KY,business friendly as well.

Since: Apr 12

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#3 Sep 14, 2012
Tolls the reason for leaving...ROFL

Maybe it would be the new workers in Kentucky would have IQ's as low as joe and sarah (and their many topix identities)
Rod

United States

#4 Sep 14, 2012
Heisenberg49 wrote:
Tolls the reason for leaving...ROFL
Maybe it would be the new workers in Kentucky would have IQ's as low as joe and sarah (and their many topix identities)
What makes you think that you have an IQ higher than a fresh pile of fecal matter?

Since: Apr 12

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#5 Sep 14, 2012
Rod wrote:
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What makes you think that you have an IQ higher than a fresh pile of fecal matter?
So you consider joe and sarah fecal matter
Anonymous

North Tonawanda, NY

#6 Sep 14, 2012
It wouldn't suprise me...the people that work there aren't exactly the smartest, hardest working people around...I suppose the only play you'd be able to find dumber people willing to work for less would be in Kentucky...NRG...Carriage House...Dunkirk deserves this...until Dunkirk reduces the size of it's government and thus lower its fees and taxes...Dunkirk dies...
ahahaha

Dunkirk, NY

#7 Sep 15, 2012
don't worry i will get you all jobs, hahhahaha
catman doo

Fredonia, NY

#8 Sep 16, 2012
ghost town now for sure !
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#9 Sep 16, 2012
I worked there last summer and let me tell you why Carriage House is doomed to fail. The workers. They have a bad attitude, they're are lazy because they have a sense of entitlement due to the union, and the workers tend to promote/hire based on friendships and not work ethic.

Aside from Carriage House employees, Kelly Services would also employ people there. They also had a high turnover because they were basically slave labor. The kelly employees are treated like dogs, worked harder than the Carriage House employees but were the first to have hours cut in down time had work hours/days cut if a union employee wanted extra hours, thus there would be a high turnover rate. The number one sign of a company doomed for failure is a high turn over rate. There are specific employees i could mention by name who had bad attitudes, who would come and go as they pleased and didn't want to do the responsibilities associated with their job (Jennifer Brown) its the attitude and work ethic like that that doomed it for failure. I hope they find a better work force in Kentucky.
Brocton mom

Dunkirk, NY

#10 Sep 16, 2012
http://www.observertoday.com/page/content.det...

Maybe time for my son to find another job and get out of this area. Sorry to hear for everyone who works at Carriage House.
JILL

Horseheads, NY

#12 Sep 16, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
I worked there last summer and let me tell you why Carriage House is doomed to fail. The workers. They have a bad attitude, they're are lazy because they have a sense of entitlement due to the union, and the workers tend to promote/hire based on friendships and not work ethic.
Aside from Carriage House employees, Kelly Services would also employ people there. They also had a high turnover because they were basically slave labor. The kelly employees are treated like dogs, worked harder than the Carriage House employees but were the first to have hours cut in down time had work hours/days cut if a union employee wanted extra hours, thus there would be a high turnover rate. The number one sign of a company doomed for failure is a high turn over rate. There are specific employees i could mention by name who had bad attitudes, who would come and go as they pleased and didn't want to do the responsibilities associated with their job (Jennifer Brown) its the attitude and work ethic like that that doomed it for failure. I hope they find a better work force in Kentucky.
What a arrssshole to take a personal vendetta and wish harms way on an entire company.Do you realize the impact if carrage house closes. Sounds like you're the ignorant SOB that has the bad attitude.
Anonymous

Depew, NY

#13 Sep 16, 2012
[email protected] off..i spoke the truth.....look at the reasons why they may move..maybe i can get my job back?
American

Fredonia, NY

#14 Sep 16, 2012
Heisenberg49 wrote:
Tolls the reason for leaving...ROFL
Maybe it would be the new workers in Kentucky would have IQ's as low as joe and sarah (and their many topix identities)
No I was wrong,it's the wonderfully low taxes,low fuel costs,the proposed free tuition for illegal invaders, and the FACT THAT it costs more MONEY to ship from here than from KY you dumb a**. You don't care since you get everything handed to you unlike the good folks who work hard to keep dignity and a family intact. The higher tolls are the icing on the cake stupid!
lonewolf

Buffalo, NY

#15 Sep 16, 2012
i have been working there for fourteen years started to be a great place to work i love my work i love my job and new people that i have trained i teated like people and i also see lazy people therebut there is alot of good hard working people there im not loseing my job im loeing my second family as far as im concerned ralcorp starting making changes two fast we were running product we didnt even need like im talking around 70 to 80 trailers just sitting in our yard that we have no buyers we tose pallets in dumsters almost everyday we should be giving it to the needy before it go bad it could help alot of pople as far as im concerned we did not let the company down they let our family down im not looking forward to walfare i am a hard worker but will there be any jobs left here last one out of fredona and dunkirk please turn out the lights
Anonymous

North Tonawanda, NY

#16 Sep 16, 2012
American wrote:
<quoted text>No I was wrong,it's the wonderfully low taxes,low fuel costs,the proposed free tuition for illegal invaders, and the FACT THAT it costs more MONEY to ship from here than from KY you dumb a**. You don't care since you get everything handed to you unlike the good folks who work hard to keep dignity and a family intact. The higher tolls are the icing on the cake stupid!
You're absolutely right.it's sad that people can't the whole picture...how tax here...a fee there, hike here affects the bottom line and discourages ppl from living and doing business in a certain area.
local 266

Niagara Falls, NY

#17 Sep 16, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
I worked there last summer and let me tell you why Carriage House is doomed to fail. The workers. They have a bad attitude, they're are lazy because they have a sense of entitlement due to the union, and the workers tend to promote/hire based on friendships and not work ethic.
Aside from Carriage House employees, Kelly Services would also employ people there. They also had a high turnover because they were basically slave labor. The kelly employees are treated like dogs, worked harder than the Carriage House employees but were the first to have hours cut in down time had work hours/days cut if a union employee wanted extra hours, thus there would be a high turnover rate. The number one sign of a company doomed for failure is a high turn over rate. There are specific employees i could mention by name who had bad attitudes, who would come and go as they pleased and didn't want to do the responsibilities associated with their job (Jennifer Brown) its the attitude and work ethic like that that doomed it for failure. I hope they find a better work force in Kentucky.
You are so full of it,not all carriage house employees are lazy matter of fact the company hires kellys people in the union. The kellys people get treated the same as the union employees. What about those employees who were working 7 days a week and holidays for the company for over a year, then the company cut there hours and the product sat so long in the warehouse and they had to land fill it. This year so far the company has sent over 600,000 cases to land fill.So all that hard work we did was for nothing ,all those workers miss out on all those holidays for nothing.The company does not care about any of there employees,all they care about is how cheaper it would be for them moving it to kentucky.
carriage house 2nd shift

Fredonia, NY

#18 Sep 16, 2012
American wrote:
<quoted text>No I was wrong,it's the wonderfully low taxes,low fuel costs,the proposed free tuition for illegal invaders, and the FACT THAT it costs more MONEY to ship from here than from KY you dumb a**. You don't care since you get everything handed to you unlike the good folks who work hard to keep dignity and a family intact. The higher tolls are the icing on the cake stupid!
No company is going to shutdown and move because of a toll increase.There are toll highways in almost every state.Any cost increase would be added to the cost of the product just like increases in insurance costs, labor costs,utilities etc. Many truckers choose avoid tolls because of costs and overweight loads by traveling non toll roads.It's not like they are forced to travel on pay roads.A toll increase would never be a deal breaker.
yea

Dunkirk, NY

#19 Sep 17, 2012
carriage house 2nd shift wrote:
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No company is going to shutdown and move because of a toll increase.There are toll highways in almost every state.Any cost increase would be added to the cost of the product just like increases in insurance costs, labor costs,utilities etc. Many truckers choose avoid tolls because of costs and overweight loads by traveling non toll roads.It's not like they are forced to travel on pay roads.A toll increase would never be a deal breaker.
Toll increase would never be a deal breaker. Although its obvious you have not ventured out of the state much. Most states don't have tolls.
Anonymous

North Tonawanda, NY

#20 Sep 17, 2012
local 266 wrote:
<quoted text> You are so full of it,not all carriage house employees are lazy matter of fact the company hires kellys people in the union. The kellys people get treated the same as the union employees. What about those employees who were working 7 days a week and holidays for the company for over a year, then the company cut there hours and the product sat so long in the warehouse and they had to land fill it. This year so far the company has sent over 600,000 cases to land fill.So all that hard work we did was for nothing ,all those workers miss out on all those holidays for nothing.The company does not care about any of there employees,all they care about is how cheaper it would be for them moving it to kentucky.
You're full of it, the Kelly employees are treated like crap...when there is a slow down, they are the first to have hours cut or days reduced because when there is a slow down, the union guys can elect to take the hours of the no union employees from Kelly, hence the Kelly employees wouldn't give a shit about their job and that is why there was always a high turnover rate for certain jobs. And I stand by my statement that the employees there are uneducated and lazy, you don't have to be believe me, just visit the QA lab in Dunkirk for second and third shift..they have the worst attitude when it comes to having to do duties related to their job...lazy, rude...I'm not saying the entire company is filled with people like this, I'm saying it's people like the ppl in the QA lab that is the reason why the company is a complete and utter failure...the cooks, not the brightest people...maybe all the product sat because people were sick of inferrior products made by trash....from a business perspective the goal is always to make as much money as possible, with as little overhead as possible..you can't find that in NYS...not with the taxes and fees you have to pay and not with the labor force we have..
American

Fredonia, NY

#21 Sep 17, 2012
carriage house 2nd shift wrote:
<quoted text>
No company is going to shutdown and move because of a toll increase.There are toll highways in almost every state.Any cost increase would be added to the cost of the product just like increases in insurance costs, labor costs,utilities etc. Many truckers choose avoid tolls because of costs and overweight loads by traveling non toll roads.It's not like they are forced to travel on pay roads.A toll increase would never be a deal breaker.
Now please read what you wrote. Where do you think it would be cheaper to produce and ship product from, NY or KY. Companies move to remain competitive because of production costs and overhead costs. It's only a matter of time until the state puts restrictions on OTR transits in the form of weight limits except for local delivery. Mark my words. As I pointed out the 45% increase in tolls is only part of the lousy business atmosphere here in NYS.

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