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zzz

Buffalo, NY

#1 Jul 24, 2010
some help for you folks in drug court. You don't have to go to aa meetings. you can forge every signature on your meetings list as long as you don't put down a real meeting. the reason is, the court (the judge and coordinator) only compare the signatures of people who claim to have attended the same meeting. if you lie and say you were at tuesday night meeting, but your signature doesn't match the people who were at tuesday night meeting, youre busted.
if you make up a name of a meeting that was held on tuesday, you can sign whatever name you want. get my drift? they can suspect all they want but they cannot order you to go to any specific meetings because aa is too religious for the ny supreme court. so if you say you were at bob's aa meeting at noon on monday, even if no one else in drug court goes, the court cannot dispute it, nor can they force you to attend any particular meetings.
now i urge a person to use caution with this. even if the court cant prove youre not going to aa meetings, if the judge and coordinator are unhappy with you, they can make you pretty miserable anyways.
what i did for the last 4 months or so that i was in drug court, i went to 1-2 meetings a week just to show my face for the snitches, and forged around the meetings i actually went to. for example i would go on monday, forge tues, forge wed, go on thu. it would probably work even better with an accomplice, that is you and another drug court prisoner had the same "meeting" on your sheet every once in a while.
mingya

Fredonia, NY

#2 Jul 24, 2010
This is why drug court is useless (mostly) Put the junkies in jail, take away their breedng cards (welfare and food stamps) and toss away the key. Sick and tired of paying for these rat bastards. C ya in church
The Mom

Fredonia, NY

#3 Jul 27, 2010
mingya wrote:
This is why drug court is useless (mostly) Put the junkies in jail, take away their breedng cards (welfare and food stamps) and toss away the key. Sick and tired of paying for these rat bastards. C ya in church
Some of them really do get cleaned up from this program. Obviously the poster should just do his time for his crime.
movingon

Fredonia, NY

#4 Jul 27, 2010
The Mom wrote:
<quoted text>Some of them really do get cleaned up from this program. Obviously the poster should just do his time for his crime.
possibly months of being clean and sober, but when the program ends you are forgotten.The courts get way to much money for each client that is entered into the program. to much at one time is asked of these people.shoving drugs down their throats, anti-depressants,sleepaids, you name it, it's all a job security issue.The pharmacy makes out,The courts make out,The Counselors make out,The Doctor's make out. It's all a farce and financial BS.They got their money now your finished with drug Court See Ya!
mingya

Fredonia, NY

#5 Jul 27, 2010
The Mom wrote:
<quoted text>Some of them really do get cleaned up from this program. Obviously the poster should just do his time for his crime.
Read the original post Its about how to beat the system, and I don't use drugs
The Mom

Fredonia, NY

#6 Jul 27, 2010
mingya wrote:
<quoted text>Read the original post Its about how to beat the system, and I don't use drugs
I was talking about the original post. It's obvious "HE" is talking about beating the system, that why I said "HE" should just be doing his time. I wasn't talking about you doing drugs.
Anonymous

Tonawanda, NY

#7 Dec 3, 2010
mingya wrote:
This is why drug court is useless (mostly) Put the junkies in jail, take away their breedng cards (welfare and food stamps) and toss away the key. Sick and tired of paying for these rat bastards. C ya in church
ay now lady im all good cause of it
Overrated

Buffalo, NY

#8 Dec 4, 2010
Employees many state workers, no way is it going to work! Like everything else in NewYork state,the taxespayers pay and get NOTHING for their hard earned money!
FTW

Moline, IL

#9 Dec 4, 2010
Helpful Drug court tips:
Sign up for SSI or disability after you have been accepted in the program,this will get you out of:

Community service
work
job searches

Claim Athiest:
Since AA NA are religion oreintated you can demand exemption.

If you do meth,you can continue just get a cheap box of acid reducer with the ingredient "rantadine" it will show up in drug test as meth,but you can contest the test buy saying you take over the counter acid reducer.

Find dirt on the probation officer or judge in charge of drug court,then use that for favoritism in your favor.

Start your own AA NA home group in your smoke filled dimly lit basement or garage:
Provide a smoking facility
provide spiked coffee,tea,refreshments,word will get around that your meetings possess great healing powers.
Sell counterfiet aa na t-shirts,books,literature
sell tobacco products
Use the proceeds for the pass the basket or the sale of couterfiet products as ameans of proof of income and to pay on fines.
Sell forged meeting slips.
Become a sponsor and require your sponsees to pay you a fee of 20.00 a week to be their (clean & sober friend)

IT WORKS IF YOU WORK IT.LOL

Remember not to make friends with any other drug court participant,they will tell on you to make theirself look better in the eye of the court.

OR, next time you get popped just simply do your fkn time get it over with and get back to the streets with what you were doing.

HAVE A NICE DAY.:)
wow

Fredonia, NY

#10 Dec 4, 2010
This brings a tear to my eye
FTW

Moline, IL

#11 Dec 4, 2010
wow wrote:
This brings a tear to my eye
git your finger out of it.LOL
Think

Buffalo, NY

#12 Dec 4, 2010
At least something is being attempted. There are, of course flaws, but at least someone is trying something. We can't just jail drug users and sellers, it costs us more money that you would think to give them an easy ride, roof and meals over their heads.
I know it seems that many of them already get this from the way benefits work in the state, but jailing them is even more cost prohibitive, and these people learn more in the craft that landed them in the system in the first place.
If the drug court system works for even one or two people every cycle, I believe it is worth it.
The system does need to be examined and serious flaws need to be fixed, but, if you look at the current standards of society, we have all become lazy. The people who become part of the system are lazy, and also some of the people that run the system are lazy as well. Thus, these lazy people sneak by. We need to really need to emphasize education, not in general but education that matters. We also need to let these people fail in school. Don't let substandard people struggle in higher levels of education they can't handle. yet, what do we do with them? I think that we should end NAFTA, thus allowing us as a country to be more self sufficient and to make our less educated prosper, and not be insulted due to a lesser education. Factory workers work HARD and the hard workers are far more virtuous than the silver spoon American royalty. I am educated, and continuing my education, as I feel that is what is good for me, but we need to find a worthy occupation for these lost people. Jail is not the way. At least the drug court is trying to help. One or two successes is worth the effort.
sam

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Dec 6, 2010
these posts are really interesting.
if you all worked so hard at becoming a productive member of your community and beleived in getting yourself clean to better your life, you wouldn't have to be underhanded, lie or cover up your tracks. Oh wait, that's what criminals do- I forgot.
it is sad. just sad - that you cannot see that you are only fooling yourself. No one cares if you forge your slips, lie or get away with something. good god, some people beg to be given a chance to 'get out of' their situation- some are looking for a get out of jail card, some are looking to put their past behind them and make a new clean start. It's just about living life the right way- the honest way and bettering yourself. so you scam your way through drug ct.?? you scam yourself from a better life. courts don't make any money off of people... treatment doesnt make more money-- people would go to treatment anyways-- they got into trouble and would have to go no matter what. and there are some drug courts who will continue to help graduates...even those who failed to make it through. the people who fake their way through it... don't think the courts don't know it... the courts and the people running the drug cts. Just remember... they are the ones who will be laughing at you from the OUTSIDE of those jail cells... because you will return.
scamt

Niagara Falls, NY

#14 Dec 11, 2010
Think wrote:
At least something is being attempted. There are, of course flaws, but at least someone is trying something. We can't just jail drug users and sellers, it costs us more money that you would think to give them an easy ride, roof and meals over their heads.
I know it seems that many of them already get this from the way benefits work in the state, but jailing them is even more cost prohibitive, and these people learn more in the craft that landed them in the system in the first place.
If the drug court system works for even one or two people every cycle, I believe it is worth it.
The system does need to be examined and serious flaws need to be fixed, but, if you look at the current standards of society, we have all become lazy. The people who become part of the system are lazy, and also some of the people that run the system are lazy as well. Thus, these lazy people sneak by. We need to really need to emphasize education, not in general but education that matters. We also need to let these people fail in school. Don't let substandard people struggle in higher levels of education they can't handle. yet, what do we do with them? I think that we should end NAFTA, thus allowing us as a country to be more self sufficient and to make our less educated prosper, and not be insulted due to a lesser education. Factory workers work HARD and the hard workers are far more virtuous than the silver spoon American royalty. I am educated, and continuing my education, as I feel that is what is good for me, but we need to find a worthy occupation for these lost people. Jail is not the way. At least the drug court is trying to help. One or two successes is worth the effort.
LOL
90 some percent of the people who grad drug court get high the first day after they grad. Drug court claims and fools the public it works with the numbers they give. Well we have such and such a success rate. Lets invite the public and really get the public persucution along with the legal part of it. How degrading they must feel. Ya look at me I grad drug court.Ya right. This is just another scam along with the war on drugs. Do they the DEA, STRDTF, POLICE really want to end the war on drugs. They get paid rather well fighting this war on drugs or should I say War on the people. The drug war is a flop! If they could hit a majic switch where everyone in the world would never do drugs again. Ya think theyd hit that switch. I think not! Legalize marijuana and put the billions spent figting that in to fighting drugs like crack coke herion meth the drugs that really damage the public. Part of this scam can be sending a kid off to rehab for 6months then when he is half way through they want to put him in a half way house for another 6 months.This half way house thing is yet athr part of the scam. It just goes on and on. If you smoke a cigar,chew, smoke a joint crack meth drink beer hava xanax vicodin its all poisioning your body to a certain extent yes mr officer even the brews that u enjoy. Here is my answer if people choose to go home and eat alittle rat poison every nght cause it makes them happy.They want to harm themselfs. Instead of wasting the money on tryn to stop losrs that want to harm them selfs, spend it on people who want to better themselfs. If Juan whatever wants to get high who cares.Dont waste our $$$$ tryn to stop him. He will either way!
Think

Buffalo, NY

#15 Dec 14, 2010
scamt wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
90 some percent of the people who grad drug court get high the first day after they grad. Drug court claims and fools the public it works with the numbers they give. Well we have such and such a success rate. Lets invite the public and really get the public persucution along with the legal part of it. How degrading they must feel. Ya look at me I grad drug court.Ya right. This is just another scam along with the war on drugs. Do they the DEA, STRDTF, POLICE really want to end the war on drugs. They get paid rather well fighting this war on drugs or should I say War on the people. The drug war is a flop! If they could hit a majic switch where everyone in the world would never do drugs again. Ya think theyd hit that switch. I think not! Legalize marijuana and put the billions spent figting that in to fighting drugs like crack coke herion meth the drugs that really damage the public. Part of this scam can be sending a kid off to rehab for 6months then when he is half way through they want to put him in a half way house for another 6 months.This half way house thing is yet athr part of the scam. It just goes on and on. If you smoke a cigar,chew, smoke a joint crack meth drink beer hava xanax vicodin its all poisioning your body to a certain extent yes mr officer even the brews that u enjoy. Here is my answer if people choose to go home and eat alittle rat poison every nght cause it makes them happy.They want to harm themselfs. Instead of wasting the money on tryn to stop losrs that want to harm them selfs, spend it on people who want to better themselfs. If Juan whatever wants to get high who cares.Dont waste our $$$$ tryn to stop him. He will either way!
The problem with just letting them get high is, that if they just do nothing and get high, around here, it costs us. They get a bit of money from a small odd job and then buy marijuana, crack, cocaine, whatever....then they sell some of it off. They start to subsist on that pattern until they need an odd job again to buy their little seed again. All the while, they play the system and earn benefits, ruin the moral of the citizens in the area, and become heroes to the kids in the neighborhood. I would rather try something than just let these people live off of us. I would rather waste money on trying to help one person instead of just letting them live off of our taxes.
Jimmyz

Niagara Falls, NY

#16 Jan 8, 2011
There going to get high and do nothing anyway thats rather clear in dunkirk.And yes I agree w u I hate them coming here to live off us and the moneys r parents and grand parents work so hard o build up ss so we can retire. Thats floating out the door as theis ppl move here half way around the world to live of us. Boy they r really proud ppl!LOL
Whats really funny as that money goes to their nice new cars. Lets go back 2 if u get wefare ur car can not be worth more that x amount of dollars.Not up to 50,000.Its sick, scum.Lika coacha Roach.
Leonard

Dunkirk, NY

#17 Jan 8, 2011
Jimmyz wrote:
There going to get high and do nothing anyway thats rather clear in dunkirk.And yes I agree w u I hate them coming here to live off us and the moneys r parents and grand parents work so hard o build up ss so we can retire. Thats floating out the door as theis ppl move here half way around the world to live of us. Boy they r really proud ppl!LOL
Whats really funny as that money goes to their nice new cars. Lets go back 2 if u get wefare ur car can not be worth more that x amount of dollars.Not up to 50,000.Its sick, scum.Lika coacha Roach.
wow..You need to go check out this website: www.Ineedtolearnhowasentenceisconstructed.com
rawr

Dunkirk, NY

#18 Jan 9, 2011
Think wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with just letting them get high is, that if they just do nothing and get high, around here, it costs us. They get a bit of money from a small odd job and then buy marijuana, crack, cocaine, whatever....then they sell some of it off. They start to subsist on that pattern until they need an odd job again to buy their little seed again. All the while, they play the system and earn benefits, ruin the moral of the citizens in the area, and become heroes to the kids in the neighborhood. I would rather try something than just let these people live off of us. I would rather waste money on trying to help one person instead of just letting them live off of our taxes.
thats a broad generalization. not every drug user does that. in fact, many non-drug users do very similar things!
rawr

Dunkirk, NY

#19 Jan 9, 2011
scamt wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
90 some percent of the people who grad drug court get high the first day after they grad. Drug court claims and fools the public it works with the numbers they give. Well we have such and such a success rate. Lets invite the public and really get the public persucution along with the legal part of it. How degrading they must feel. Ya look at me I grad drug court.Ya right. This is just another scam along with the war on drugs. Part of this scam can be sending a kid off to rehab for 6months then when he is half way through they want to put him in a half way house for another 6 months.This half way house thing is yet athr part of the scam. Instead of wasting the money on tryn to stop losrs that want to harm them selfs, spend it on people who want to better themselfs. If Juan whatever wants to get high who cares.Dont waste our $$$$ tryn to stop him. He will either way!
I ended up in drug court because i drank beer while i was on probation. i was on probation for obstruction of justice - nothing drug or alcohol related. i got caught drinking like 3 times over 2 years, and my drinking habit was maybe to drink twice a month or so. this qualified me for drug court, treatment, and even rehab (the 3rd time i was caught). i would estimate cost to the taxpayer of over $100,000 easily (1 day in rehab is about $1000) to treat my horrible addiction to alcohol - a legal drug that other than me being on probation, was legal for me to consume. while i was in drug court, scamt is right, they cherry-pick the people to go or stay in drug court. they make it too hard for someone who is actually addicted to finish - those people get thrown back in jail the first time they relapse. instead the court picks people who only have mild habits (like mine) and therefore are easy to suppress while the person goes through the program. oh and this program is basically nothing except harassment. there is no actual treatment going on. I was unfortunate enough to have a college degree so while everyone else just had to get their ged or a job in fast food, i had to find a job that doesnt exist in dunkirk or go back to school, both of which would have been impossible with all the stupid meetings, appointments, and spontaneous drug tests they made me go to - none of which were negotiable. so i was endlessly berated by leann lazarony and sent to jail on a few occasions.
All of the counselors and staff involved with the drug court program, of course, pat themselves on their backs and say they are doing a good job because it makes them money or provides job security.
i will agree with drug court keeping these people out of jail - none of them are violent, most are just party animals who acted irresponsibly one night or something. i think there should be some kind of penalty for being reckless but to send them through drug court or put them in prison for years for possession charges is insane. in my case, for drinking while on probation, i was faced with a 12 month sentence, which i also think was overkill.
Heather

United States

#20 May 23, 2012
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