Where to Relocate DSS after fire

Where to Relocate DSS after fire

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Pork Barrel Bill

Bolivar, NY

#1 Feb 26, 2010
Dunkirk was gracious enough to host the safety net program for several years. This will obviously be huge paradigm shift in what's left of Dunkirk's downtown. Think about the ratio of DSS employee to benefits recepient. This had to account for a lot of the human traffic in downtown Dunkirk for last several years. Dunkirk may soon be suffering from an identity crisis.
Penny

United States

#2 Feb 26, 2010
Wow, a tragic fire panics poor people, displaces many many workers, devastates downtown Dunkirk, and all you can do is make snide comments about DSS?

Dunkirk has been suffering from an identity crisis since the manufacturing base went to China. People all over the country are suffering because the uneducated or those with only high school diplomas have nowhere to work now except restaurants or farms which are low paying-not enough to live on. If there were jobs here, many people would be working them.

And by the way, Dunkirk wasn't gracious enough to "host the safety net program", it is a New York State law, i.e. not an option.

The welfare issue is far more complicated than you make it out to be so why don't you get educated about where our jobs are and why we have welfare before you make crude and mean comments?
Pork Barrel Bill

Bolivar, NY

#3 Feb 26, 2010
Penny wrote:
Wow, a tragic fire panics poor people, displaces many many workers, devastates downtown Dunkirk, and all you can do is make snide comments about DSS?
Dunkirk has been suffering from an identity crisis since the manufacturing base went to China. People all over the country are suffering because the uneducated or those with only high school diplomas have nowhere to work now except restaurants or farms which are low paying-not enough to live on. If there were jobs here, many people would be working them.
And by the way, Dunkirk wasn't gracious enough to "host the safety net program", it is a New York State law, i.e. not an option.
The welfare issue is far more complicated than you make it out to be so why don't you get educated about where our jobs are and why we have welfare before you make crude and mean comments?
Penny, Your right. why are you taking issue with me. The maufacturing base has been gutted due to national policies like NAFTA. Thus, the government needs to continue to print more phony funny money to sustain these entitlement programs. Why? Because there is no real money left in the real earned income tax base. This in turn worsens what you see as part of the problem(China)because they are financing our paper money coming of the printing press as well as having the jobs we once had. Sounds like a fair arrangement to me. Let's live now and worry about economic castastrophe later.

But back to the original question, where do you propose a new centralized DSS office should be? How about Fredonia. Possible sites; Russo Building. No, probably too occupied and too small. How about the soon to be vacant Wheelock School. Modernized building with plenty of parking space for all the county employees to park their SUV's. I realize the economically disadvantaged do not drive cars as much, so it is only logical that more grants be given to Fredonia to dramatically increase HUD housing throught the village within walking distance to this central location. You say it's New York State law for Dunirk to house such offices, so then the state should exercise its authority spread the wealth to other municipalities if there are suitable sites. Fredonia could benefit from more economic and cultural diversity.
Seeing Eye

Fredonia, NY

#4 Feb 26, 2010
Pork Barrel Bill wrote:
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Penny, Your right. why are you taking issue with me. The maufacturing base has been gutted due to national policies like NAFTA. Thus, the government needs to continue to print more phony funny money to sustain these entitlement programs. Why? Because there is no real money left in the real earned income tax base. This in turn worsens what you see as part of the problem(China)because they are financing our paper money coming of the printing press as well as having the jobs we once had. Sounds like a fair arrangement to me. Let's live now and worry about economic castastrophe later.
But back to the original question, where do you propose a new centralized DSS office should be? How about Fredonia. Possible sites; Russo Building. No, probably too occupied and too small. How about the soon to be vacant Wheelock School. Modernized building with plenty of parking space for all the county employees to park their SUV's. I realize the economically disadvantaged do not drive cars as much, so it is only logical that more grants be given to Fredonia to dramatically increase HUD housing throught the village within walking distance to this central location. You say it's New York State law for Dunirk to house such offices, so then the state should exercise its authority spread the wealth to other municipalities if there are suitable sites. Fredonia could benefit from more economic and cultural diversity.
What about the Old Tops Market on Vineyard Drive? those that don't drive can take the Carts buses from Dunkirk and Fredonia to get there. Plenty of parking for everyone. Those on welfare can be given vouchers/ travel tickets for travel to the vineyard drive location. Big empty building, time to make use of it.
Bulldog

United States

#5 Feb 26, 2010
They have been advised to check into the St. Hyacinth School for temporary DSS offices and possibly some others. COI is offering their old WIC space to either Chautauqua Works or Mental Health. The county will want most offices/departments co-located so any space they take now would be temporary until they found or built a place big enough to house DSS, probation, health, and mental health.
Fantasia

Arcade, NY

#6 Feb 26, 2010
they should move to the Welch building on the corner of 394 in Westfield
Gone With The Wind

Fredonia, NY

#7 Feb 26, 2010
Bulldog wrote:
They have been advised to check into the St. Hyacinth School for temporary DSS offices and possibly some others. COI is offering their old WIC space to either Chautauqua Works or Mental Health. The county will want most offices/departments co-located so any space they take now would be temporary until they found or built a place big enough to house DSS, probation, health, and mental health.
Bert Is not handing over space at Connections North out of the goodness of her heart. She sees a way to take advantage and get the government, be it county or state level, to pay for the space that housed programs that were taken away from her for illegal wrong doing with funding and program protocols. She showed up at the fire scene with her biggest brown noser and the brown noser's trophy husband, to start spreading her poisonous venom to the workers displaced. She's always up to no good, victims beware!!!
Be It Known

Fredonia, NY

#8 Feb 26, 2010
Roberta Keller is like Anthrax... She seeps her poison into the smallest of cracks and makes everyone her victim!
Mr Drunkirk

Fredonia, NY

#9 Feb 26, 2010
How about the old unemployment office on Lake Shore Drive West near the Resource Center ?
justsouknow

Fredonia, NY

#10 Feb 27, 2010
Penny wrote:
Wow, a tragic fire panics poor people, displaces many many workers, devastates downtown Dunkirk, and all you can do is make snide comments about DSS?
Dunkirk has been suffering from an identity crisis since the manufacturing base went to China. People all over the country are suffering because the uneducated or those with only high school diplomas have nowhere to work now except restaurants or farms which are low paying-not enough to live on. If there were jobs here, many people would be working them.
And by the way, Dunkirk wasn't gracious enough to "host the safety net program", it is a New York State law, i.e. not an option.
The welfare issue is far more complicated than you make it out to be so why don't you get educated about where our jobs are and why we have welfare before you make crude and mean comments?
Welfare would be less complicated if they got off their ass and got a job!
Forestville hick

Bolivar, NY

#11 Feb 27, 2010
Seeing Eye wrote:
<quoted text> What about the Old Tops Market on Vineyard Drive? those that don't drive can take the Carts buses from Dunkirk and Fredonia to get there. Plenty of parking for everyone. Those on welfare can be given vouchers/ travel tickets for travel to the vineyard drive location. Big empty building, time to make use of it.
gives dem free rIde tickets, Haw!
Gone With The Wind

Fredonia, NY

#12 Feb 27, 2010
They already have a free ride!!!
Bulldog

United States

#13 Feb 27, 2010
Mr Drunkirk wrote:
How about the old unemployment office on Lake Shore Drive West near the Resource Center ?
I believe that building houses a church now.
Bulldog

United States

#14 Feb 27, 2010
Gone With The Wind wrote:
<quoted text>Bert Is not handing over space at Connections North out of the goodness of her heart. She sees a way to take advantage and get the government, be it county or state level, to pay for the space that housed programs that were taken away from her for illegal wrong doing with funding and program protocols. She showed up at the fire scene with her biggest brown noser and the brown noser's trophy husband, to start spreading her poisonous venom to the workers displaced. She's always up to no good, victims beware!!!
I'm not here to defend Bert/COI because those of you that are haters will always be haters. You are entitled to your opinion. I am simply posting info that I have heard from reliable sources (not from COI). I have heard through a county contact that Bert showed up at the fire because of a call she received from the DSS commissioner to come to the scene to meet with him and the county executive about COI space that might be available. And no, COI won't hand over free space to the county. No organization would. They will pay rent.
Just The Facts

Fredonia, NY

#15 Feb 27, 2010
I went down this morning to sign my Dogs up for welfare.

At first the lady said, Dogs are not eligible to draw welfare.

So I explained to her that my Dogs are unemployed, lazy, can't speak English and have no frigging clue who their Daddy is.

So she looked in her policy book to see what it takes to qualify.

My Dogs gets their first check Friday.

Damn this is a great country.
BigSis

Angola, NY

#16 Feb 27, 2010
Excellent idea! Beautiful building too! Centralized and would bring the population of Westfield up.
BigSis

Angola, NY

#17 Feb 27, 2010
Bulldog wrote:
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I'm not here to defend Bert/COI because those of you that are haters will always be haters. You are entitled to your opinion. I am simply posting info that I have heard from reliable sources (not from COI). I have heard through a county contact that Bert showed up at the fire because of a call she received from the DSS commissioner to come to the scene to meet with him and the county executive about COI space that might be available. And no, COI won't hand over free space to the county. No organization would. They will pay rent.
Yeah rent by the square foot...something like $28 a square foot! A month.
Forestville hick

Bolivar, NY

#18 Feb 28, 2010
Just The Facts wrote:
I went down this morning to sign my Dogs up for welfare.
At first the lady said, Dogs are not eligible to draw welfare.
So I explained to her that my Dogs are unemployed, lazy, can't speak English and have no frigging clue who their Daddy is.
So she looked in her policy book to see what it takes to qualify.
My Dogs gets their first check Friday.
Damn this is a great country.
ThIS is da best ones yet!
gusinski

High Point, NC

#19 Feb 28, 2010
justsouknow wrote:
<quoted text>Welfare would be less complicated if they got off their ass and got a job!
Just so u Know there is some legitimate unemployment out there, I mean there are lack of jobs, SOME people really want to work and can't find places to hire. so stfu tard.
hammer

Buffalo, NY

#20 Feb 28, 2010
dunkirk is welfare city..granted some people that live here really do need public assistance and i do have sympathy for them,but the majority are leeches sucking the system at yours and my expense..this is wrong..new york state makes it too easy to get welfare..i think they should revamp the system and make stricter guidelines in order to qualify..how about drug testing??..how about community service??..not just sitting around all day and doing nothing..maybe they would get the hint that theres a word called work..then if they dont like the idea that if you want to get welfare you must provde something in return,then maybe they would move out of here and ny state..i agree welfare is necessary,but it is abused in this state..i think crime and drug problems would be lessened if welfare was more stricter..also just remember our tax dollars pay for this public assistance program,it was developed with the idea to help people in times of legitimate need,not for a free ride to milk the system..ny state is considered the welfare state of america..its time to change that..

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