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Aug 15, 2012
 

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I should clarify - I do care about "when and where" they are sleeping with someone. NOT on the clock, obviously- and not on school property.
Rex

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Aug 16, 2012
 

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No, you are way off base with your suspicions.I don't care who someone sleeps with (same sex or not) nor when. I would just like to see them married & not promiscious, drinking at home rather than being seen out all the time. Doesn't anyone care about their reputation??
My reason for posting is simple. I am sick & tired of seeing people cheating on their spouse, have porn on their p.c./cell phone, see them out drinking on a regular basis. I just think they should hold themselves to a higher standard. I just don't want that kind of disregard to be subjected to school children. I am sure they see plenty enough at home or in their neighborhood.
Yes, I know it's everywhere and I am just saying that being shown by example would be a nice change & why not start this in the schools?
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Aug 16, 2012
 

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Teachers need to go through a vigorous background check and physiological examination every year. They also need to have there pay based on the grades of the students as well as the teachers performance. Why should I pay top dollar for a unqualified teacher that has no business even being near a school? The only thing the teachers union does is protect unqualified teachers while hurting our children in the process.
Who Cares

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Aug 16, 2012
 

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Rex wrote:
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No, you are way off base with your suspicions.I don't care who someone sleeps with (same sex or not) nor when. I would just like to see them married & not promiscious, drinking at home rather than being seen out all the time. Doesn't anyone care about their reputation??
My reason for posting is simple. I am sick & tired of seeing people cheating on their spouse, have porn on their p.c./cell phone, see them out drinking on a regular basis. I just think they should hold themselves to a higher standard. I just don't want that kind of disregard to be subjected to school children. I am sure they see plenty enough at home or in their neighborhood.
Yes, I know it's everywhere and I am just saying that being shown by example would be a nice change & why not start this in the schools?
Unless the teacher is talking about the above in class, where do you have your children that they are seeing this "behavior" from their teacher? Sounds more like you have a problem with one select person. It all STARTS AT HOME!!!
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Aug 17, 2012
 

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Who Cares wrote:
<quoted text>Unless the teacher is talking about the above in class, where do you have your children that they are seeing this "behavior" from their teacher? Sounds more like you have a problem with one select person. It all STARTS AT HOME!!!
Did I EVER say I had a child who saw any bad behvior? The answer to that is NO. I said I am tired of people who have low or no morals.
I have no respect for them (the above mentioned people) & if that is a "problem" too bad for anyone who thinks so. There is no one specifc person but rather a society full of them. Again, it's not just teachers.
If you read all of the postings, I agreed that it should start at home, however, that is not always the case. I believe there should be a higher level of standards and self respect for many professionals & examples set for our children.
A Floridian

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Aug 17, 2012
 

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New York Teachers go through a through background check complete with any arrests. If anything found like drug arrests like never become a teacher. I have no problem with drug testing. Teachers are evaluated every year and can be fired. Get your Adnin and principals to do their jobs. Good teacher(majority) want any bad teachers gone.

Remember NYS students tests top in the nation in scores. All teachers must have Masters and keep up with training in NY. A student from NY can get any job in the South. Course comes with lower pay.

The South has much lower standards and taxes. The students score the lowest in the Nation. A NY curriculum puts a 6th grade student with more knowledge than a graduate from Florida. Want lower taxes, come on down. See what your service is like from the uneducated. See if you have complaints about teachers down here. Why am I here. Kids are grown. Snow.
Huh

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Aug 17, 2012
 
Rex wrote:
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Did I EVER say I had a child who saw any bad behvior? The answer to that is NO. I said I am tired of people who have low or no morals.
I have no respect for them (the above mentioned people) & if that is a "problem" too bad for anyone who thinks so. There is no one specifc person but rather a society full of them. Again, it's not just teachers.
If you read all of the postings, I agreed that it should start at home, however, that is not always the case. I believe there should be a higher level of standards and self respect for many professionals & examples set for our children.
I have three kids and have never seen any such behavior from a teacher. I personally know most of my kids' teachers, and they are all people I would trust with their lives completely. Maybe this is an issue in bigger cities, but I just don't see it in my kids' school (which is not Cassadaga that's just what my isp puts up there.) I have friends with kids in other area districts, and it doesn't seem to be an issue with them, either. Just where are these morally loose area teachers you speak of? Or are you just trying to stir the pot?
Huh

Fredonia, NY

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#28
Aug 17, 2012
 
Today it says Fredonia under my name? Sometimes it says other places. Odd since I don't do anything to change it.
Rex

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Aug 17, 2012
 

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I will not target any specific school/s or person/s. That is low class to do so.

In a way, I am trying to stir the pot as I would like to see a bit more concern from our communities as to what is going on & things that IMO should be addressed.

I am glad you feel safe for your children. Knowing who I know & what they are like, I wouldn't trust them with my dog.
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Dunkirk, NY

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Aug 17, 2012
 

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Rex wrote:
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I will not target any specific school/s or person/s. That is low class to do so.
In a way, I am trying to stir the pot as I would like to see a bit more concern from our communities as to what is going on & things that IMO should be addressed.
I am glad you feel safe for your children. Knowing who I know & what they are like, I wouldn't trust them with my dog.
So, contrare to what you've posted, you do have a beef with one or two individuals and are just looking to stir a pot. IF things upset you so much, take proof to the schoolboard and demand action be taken. Hate to say it, but you are being low class just by what you are posting on here. Most teachers are very hard working and go way above and beyond for their students.
Rex

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Aug 18, 2012
 

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Who Cares wrote:
<quoted text>So, contrare to what you've posted, you do have a beef with one or two individuals and are just looking to stir a pot. IF things upset you so much, take proof to the schoolboard and demand action be taken. Hate to say it, but you are being low class just by what you are posting on here. Most teachers are very hard working and go way above and beyond for their students.
No. I don't have a "beef" with anyone in particular. I know way more than one or two people who fit this category.

ALL I wanted to know is this: IS there a morals clause for teachers? If not, why not? It is my opinion that they SHOULD be held to a higher standard to set a good example for our children. You think wanting people to be moral is low class?

I agree, there are many hard working teachers who do a fantastic job however, there are MANY bad apples that are spoiling the pot.

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Aug 18, 2012
 

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What you have an issue with ( who they live with, if they go out and drink) are NOT things that directly or indirectly affect their ability to teach children or be good role models. Again, unless they are discussing this in their classrooms, there are really only two ways that they know about what you consider "indiscressions: 1. you have your child in adult places or 2. you are inapproprately talking about adults and adult content around children.

I highly doubt that there are moral specific clauses in most contracts. I do know of two people who lost out on being hired (just guessing based on mumbles) because of what was on their facebook pages. I also know one teacher that had tenure pushed out one year after a dui--and meeting a bunch of stipulations. So, I guess if you are trying to get into the system or are at the bottom of the pecking order, you are under more observations than those with many years...However, if you listen to the news, many that have REALLY crossed the line have been fired and are serving jail time....

Question, why are you not as upset with coaches for hockey, little league, dance, etc? Those adults have just as much impact on the lives of children.
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Aug 21, 2012
 

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When I was in school I could have cared less what my teachers did on their own time & I feel the same way today. It isnt your or my business how a person conducts their life outside of the workplace as long as they perform, stick to education and dont bring their problems to work. Being a slut or a drunk, doesnt make a person bad at their job.
wow

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Rex, are you a religeous person? If so do you send your kids to church to be around the pervert priests and their "High Moral Standards".

Ya never know which one will try to lure youre kid to the back room with a snickers bar.
noni

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My daughter is a high school student.not ever has she come home with such malarchy. MORALS ETHICS should be taught at home. Who gives a flying figaro what happens behind the closed doors softwood adults? Same with having a drink woop-de-doo! Quite honestly, I'm more concerned with the behavior of some of the students,as well as their parents!! If you want change, don't cry on topix. Do something about it.start with cleaning up the scum who are trashing this town.then teach them morals and work ethics. Our teachers, though bad apples are everywhere, have a tough job. Some of those students are criminals and are violently dangerous.some are just rude and discourteous. You want morals start there, not in a teachers bedroom.
not a village idiot

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To the totally unknowing. Contract clause, it is part of the Education Commissioner's Regulations you twit. Jesus your stupid, wow a talking a s s .

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