The Reason the GOP Lost

The Reason the GOP Lost

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Since: Apr 12

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#1 Nov 7, 2012
IMO

Pretty simple. They chose the wrong Candidate. And he chose the wrong VP.

I find it interesting that the Romney-Ryan ticket was the first Presidential ticket to lose both of their home states since 1972.

Also, Romney lost Massachusetts, the state of which he was Governor.

It seems that those voters who really knew these guys hated them.
Good Grief

Dunkirk, NY

#2 Nov 7, 2012
I'd agree with you. The GOP needs to find its direction. Quickly. I think Ryan is a smug little know-it-all, I can't stand listening to him talk, he has that "matter of fact"-ness to his speaking that I find seriously offputting. And Romney looks like he's ready to sell you a used car on the local lemon lot. They had no chance.

The GOP needs a non-religious, fiscally conservative, socially moderate, constitutionalist candidate who pushes many non-federal issues back to states' rights. Otherwise, don't even bother putting someone in the race.

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#3 Nov 7, 2012
I agree completely. The Republican Party needed a candidate that could connect with the middle class. Early in the campaign, Romney was perceived as out of touch with the regular guy and, although he made strides toward correcting that, he never fully succeeded. Whether or not Romney made the right decision in choosing Ryan as a running mate is still unclear to me. Aside from his thirsty debate, I never got to know him at all. I think Romney could have run with Ted Kennedy and still would’ve lost.

I was on the fence throughout the entire campaign. I was undecided right up until I actually voted. I’ve never had that experience before. My final decision was based on which candidate coincided with my moral beliefs, since neither candidate appealed to me on international or domestic concerns.

I will go on record now and say that if the Democrats run Joe Biden in 2016, he will be beaten, regardless of the opponent.
Mike

Fredonia, NY

#4 Nov 7, 2012
Somewhere Sandra Fluke is smiling.
Hammer

Fredonia, NY

#5 Nov 7, 2012
Really very simple,just about 50% of the population wants free stuff and who will give that to them? Yep you guessed it. The other 50% who have work ethics are being taxed to death to pay for the freeloaders. Social spending is up right at %300 yet population is up only %24,not sustainable people even if you tax %100 of the income of "the rich". Just wait till you get that nifty little new tax form from the IRS relative to Obamacare in 2014. I'm sure you will be just tickled pink.

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#6 Nov 7, 2012
Hammer wrote:
Really very simple,just about 50% of the population wants free stuff and who will give that to them? Yep you guessed it. The other 50% who have work ethics are being taxed to death to pay for the freeloaders. Social spending is up right at %300 yet population is up only %24,not sustainable people even if you tax %100 of the income of "the rich". Just wait till you get that nifty little new tax form from the IRS relative to Obamacare in 2014. I'm sure you will be just tickled pink.
So in your so called "perfect world" NO members of the Republican party receive any type of government benefits ?
Clifford 1969

Fredonia, NY

#7 Nov 7, 2012
Heisenberg49 wrote:
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So in your so called "perfect world" NO members of the Republican party receive any type of government benefits ?
..........Your correct,hell i'm even going to start looking for free handouts.......once the government defaults and the welfare checks start to bounce at least i'll have my work ethics to fall back on!lol.
Hammer

Fredonia, NY

#8 Nov 7, 2012
Heisenberg49 wrote:
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So in your so called "perfect world" NO members of the Republican party receive any type of government benefits ?
Never said anything about a perfect world but the percentages speak for themselves do they not? Can you justify that? Who said anything relative to party affilation? You are way out there 49.Sometimes it pays to sit back and read what you are replying to prior to replying.

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#9 Nov 7, 2012
Nothing like stereotyping those who receive any type of government benefits as ONLY Democrats.

There are no two sides to facts.
Hammer

Fredonia, NY

#10 Nov 7, 2012
Heisenberg49 wrote:
Nothing like stereotyping those who receive any type of government benefits as ONLY Democrats.
There are no two sides to facts.
I'm trying to figure out where you are seeing any mention of democrats or republicans. Would you be kind enough to point that out,thanks.
Clyde10

Cleveland, OH

#11 Nov 7, 2012
Hammer wrote:
Really very simple,just about 50% of the population wants free stuff and who will give that to them? Yep you guessed it. The other 50% who have work ethics are being taxed to death to pay for the freeloaders. Social spending is up right at %300 yet population is up only %24,not sustainable people even if you tax %100 of the income of "the rich". Just wait till you get that nifty little new tax form from the IRS relative to Obamacare in 2014. I'm sure you will be just tickled pink.
I can make up statistics, too.
Here's why Romney lost. While 46% of Americans believe that Obama wants to abdicate soveriegnty to the U.N.,
58% of Americans believe that Mitt Romney would make them wear magic, mormon underwear. Clearly, people were more afraid of the underwear than they were of the U.N.
long ball hitter

Albany, NY

#12 Nov 7, 2012
Clyde10 wrote:
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I can make up statistics, too.
Here's why Romney lost. While 46% of Americans believe that Obama wants to abdicate soveriegnty to the U.N.,
58% of Americans believe that Mitt Romney would make them wear magic, mormon underwear. Clearly, people were more afraid of the underwear than they were of the U.N.
Once again, you are devoted to the rational interpretation of empirical data.
Hammer

Fredonia, NY

#13 Nov 7, 2012
Another reason is that President Obama bought the union vote in two ways,in other words he used my/your money to buy votes for himself.
Mike

Fredonia, NY

#14 Nov 7, 2012
Hammer wrote:
Another reason is that President Obama bought the union vote in two ways,in other words he used my/your money to buy votes for himself.
I have been waiting for the excuses to begin. Might as well start a list.
Hammer

Fredonia, NY

#15 Nov 7, 2012
Mike wrote:
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I have been waiting for the excuses to begin. Might as well start a list.
Mike there is a big difference between excuses and reasons,mine are reasons.
Clyde10

Cranberry Twp, PA

#16 Nov 7, 2012
Hammer wrote:
<quoted text>Mike there is a big difference between excuses and reasons,mine are reasons.
How about this for a reason -- more people voted for Obama than Romney. What's that called again? That's right, D-e-m-o-c-r-a-c-y.
Hammer

Fredonia, NY

#17 Nov 7, 2012
Clyde10 wrote:
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How about this for a reason -- more people voted for Obama than Romney. What's that called again? That's right, D-e-m-o-c-r-a-c-y.
I have no issue with that as what you say is true. I simply said buying votes with folks tax money is not right and that is but one reason why he won. Now I assume you know what votes I speak of.
Clyde10

Cranberry Twp, PA

#18 Nov 7, 2012
Give it up. Stop looking for conspiracies behind every tree and third gunmen behind every grassy knoll.

Obama bailed out the auto industry because it made sense to him. Are you suggesting that he did it with an eye toward the 2012 election? And I suppose W bailed out the financial industry because he wanted McCain to get the Wall Street vote in 2008?

People in Ohio and Michigan benefited from that and they voted accordingly. Romney alienated them with his position on the bail out. I don't fault Romney for that position, it's what he believed was the correct approach. But it cost him votes.

Obama won because his ground game was better than Romney's. Obama got all of his voters out. So did Romney. Problem is there is a bigger democratic base in the so-called Battleground states that were decisive in the Electoral College. Romney needed to do more than just match base for base turnout. He needed to cut into the middle -- moderates and independents. He didn't get enough of that vote.

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#19 Nov 7, 2012
Another reason Romney lost was fallout from the GOP's war on women.

Women votes:
55% Obama to 43% Romney

Unmarried Women:
68% Obama to Romney 30%

Looks like the promised "Women will Remember in November" happened.

To paraphrase a line from the 1933 movie King Kong:

"Oh, no, it wasn't the airplanes. It was Beauty that killed the beast!"
onceuponatime

Youngstown, NY

#20 Nov 7, 2012
Plain and simple...the GOP lost because they put the WRONG 2 candidates up!!!!! NEITHER Romney or Ryan were "likeable" or "relatable" to the majority of those voters who sat on the fence. Bain Capital, the 49%, and the Akin "ops" were more then the GOP could recover from. The world has changed--not everyone is Catholic, not everyone is Caucasian, etc...The GOP needs to move beyond appealing to the White, over 50 male, and people with an income over $100,000 or they are doomed. Hindsite is 20/20 and "should haves" will never see reality. With that said, the GOP stood a better chance of winning had they gone with any of these as a duo (not an exclusive list) Rubio, Christie, Santorum, Cane, Karger.

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