fire chris hayes now!
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joe white

Fredonia, NY

#1 May 28, 2012
after what the host of MSNBC's "up with Chris Hayes" said about veterans who gave thier lives I have only one thing to say,"fire the rat"

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#2 May 28, 2012


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Patriot

Fredonia, NY

#4 May 29, 2012
As is evidenced by the lack of responses here, people do not have a problem with this man exercising his right to an opinion. To silence dissenting opinions is unpatriotic and unAmerican. If you listen to this entire segment, and not the "Rush Limbaugh shortened clip version., " it is evident that this is an intelligent, well thought out opinion. I take no offense to the fact that this man believes that men are dying in vain for a war that was started based upon lies. I say all this as one who has served. Anyone who has seen real war and all of its horrors does not wish for more war. Who was it that said "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it? " You may go ahead and call me names now, since that seems to be the only retort to well thought out opinions. I was lied to and so was the American public. I love my Country, but question the leaders - Democrat AND Republican- that have perpetuated this war. Bush may have started it, but Obama certainly has not ended it.
Patriot

Fredonia, NY

#5 May 29, 2012
Also, the word, "hero" is thrown around way too much these days. Save someone from certain death=hero. Show up for work and just do your daily duty - not. An actual heroic action must occur, in my opinion. Otherwise, we'd all be getting the Congressional Medal of Honor.

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#6 May 29, 2012
Patriot wrote:
As is evidenced by the lack of responses here, people do not have a problem with this man exercising his right to an opinion. To silence dissenting opinions is unpatriotic and unAmerican. If you listen to this entire segment, and not the "Rush Limbaugh shortened clip version., " it is evident that this is an intelligent, well thought out opinion. I take no offense to the fact that this man believes that men are dying in vain for a war that was started based upon lies. I say all this as one who has served. Anyone who has seen real war and all of its horrors does not wish for more war. Who was it that said "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it? " You may go ahead and call me names now, since that seems to be the only retort to well thought out opinions. I was lied to and so was the American public. I love my Country, but question the leaders - Democrat AND Republican- that have perpetuated this war. Bush may have started it, but Obama certainly has not ended it.
First of all.....the lack of opinions is probably based on the fact that this was posted yesterday. People were at parades, picnics, etc. I also believe that the usual posters won't touch this because it will either show how they truly feel (which could be in contrast to their 'usual tone' or they are simply afraid to say a fellow Democrat is wrong.

You are entitled to your opinion. Mine and a few others happens to differ. No big deal.

I did look up his bio. He is all of 33. Heroes to this generation are from the sports field/actors/actresses/people who do stupid things and get away with it. Heroes for older people are people who have laid down their lives for OUR FREEDOM. People who are unselfish. They are brave. Soldiers go into the service per THEIR CHOICE and fight for OUR COUNTRY..which is the most selfless act I can even think of.

I don't like war either but this isn't about war. It's about an arrogant kid who is clueless what makes a hero. That's my opinion and I am proud of it.
CPT America

Afghanistan

#7 May 29, 2012
Fire the P.O.S and don't purchase from the advertisers on MSNBC.
Patriot

Fredonia, NY

#8 May 29, 2012
I happen to agree with him that our society overuse the word hero. I was not a hero for just doing my job. Audie Murphy? Hero! Traffic cop just writing tickets-not. But, if he pulls someone from a burning car or takes out a criminal before someone else dies -I have no problem with the hero label. Actors and actresses and athletes -not. The word has been devalued by overuse. A uniform does not make a hero - your actions do. And, again, I defend to the death the guy's right to his opinion. It is the patriotic thing to do. Where would we be if the Colonists never questioned Mother England? We must have the courage to stand for what we believe, but we must be careful not to silence opinions just because we disagree. THAT, my friends, is the sign of a true Patriot! To Love one's Country so much that you realize that dissenting opinions are a GOOD thing and something that makes our Country great!
Warren

Corning, NY

#9 May 29, 2012
Patriot wrote:
Also, the word, "hero" is thrown around way too much these days. Save someone from certain death=hero. Show up for work and just do your daily duty - not. An actual heroic action must occur, in my opinion. Otherwise, we'd all be getting the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Your absolutely correct ,they reflect my thoughts of what a 'Hero" actually is however others on this site determine what one is based upon their political affiliation and or ignorance [ yeah you jw ] just sayin...
Warren G

Buffalo, NY

#10 May 29, 2012
REGULATERRRSSS
gusinski

High Point, NC

#11 May 29, 2012
Patriot wrote:
Also, the word, "hero" is thrown around way too much these days. Save someone from certain death=hero. Show up for work and just do your daily duty - not. An actual heroic action must occur, in my opinion. Otherwise, we'd all be getting the Congressional Medal of Honor.
A WWII combat vet told me the same thing, said it waters down the true meaning, yes we have to be careful how we use that word or it will mean nothing when it is needed. This young guy does not need to be fired , for what? he brought up a sensitive issue a controversial one , fire him?? at the most give him some sensitivity training, but to put him on the unemployment line? that's harsh and worse than what he brought up. The fallen soldier if we don't call them a hero does that mean we don't appreciate them or miss them any less, it hurts just as much to lose them, there is so many names we can call them Brave, Warrior, fighting men, lets save the Hero to distinguish the soldiers amongst themselves. Now go ahead and call me a name if it makes your day.

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#12 May 29, 2012
gusinski wrote:
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A WWII combat vet told me the same thing, said it waters down the true meaning, yes we have to be careful how we use that word or it will mean nothing when it is needed. This young guy does not need to be fired , for what? he brought up a sensitive issue a controversial one , fire him?? at the most give him some sensitivity training, but to put him on the unemployment line? that's harsh and worse than what he brought up. The fallen soldier if we don't call them a hero does that mean we don't appreciate them or miss them any less, it hurts just as much to lose them, there is so many names we can call them Brave, Warrior, fighting men, lets save the Hero to distinguish the soldiers amongst themselves. Now go ahead and call me a name if it makes your day.
No names here-- I see your point Its like calling everyone sweetheart and then when you say it to your wife it dont mean as much get my view there its how ya use words to often desensitizes the meaning
joe white

Fredonia, NY

#13 May 29, 2012
it is very obvious to me that some people on here did not hear nor read what the man said but made comments based on what they think he said. what a shame!
Milt

United States

#14 May 29, 2012
Hello-Newman wrote:
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No names here-- I see your point Its like calling everyone sweetheart and then when you say it to your wife it dont mean as much get my view there its how ya use words to often desensitizes the meaning
Totally agree.

For me a hero is someone who volunteers to help others. Firemen, EMTS, soldiers who enlist to fight for our freedom with little thought they could get killed.

Soldiers who got called into service during WWII with little or no training were heroes. Watching Midway yesterday with someone who was in that war and hearing the reality was amazing.

Football players arent heroes to me. People who choose a certain job as a career are not heroes.
Milt

United States

#15 May 29, 2012
joe white wrote:
it is very obvious to me that some people on here did not hear nor read what the man said but made comments based on what they think he said. what a shame!
Got that right.
Clyde10

Cleveland, OH

#16 May 29, 2012
Veteran2

United States

#17 May 29, 2012
Clyde10 - that article is amazingly balanced and well written. Which means half the people here calling for this guy's head will ignore it. I saw the entire broadcast and thought it was an example of journalistic excellence. How many of you saw the whole thing, rather than the news bites that the media is using to stir up controversy?
gusinski

High Point, NC

#18 May 29, 2012
yes a good read clyde!
joe white

Fredonia, NY

#19 May 29, 2012
Clyde10 wrote:
http://www.theatlantic.com/pol itics/archive/2012/05/in-defen se-of-chris-hayes/257744
in that case,why did he apologize I wonder.
joe white

Fredonia, NY

#20 May 29, 2012
gusinski wrote:
yes a good read clyde!
we all know how you feel about Vets Gus, many posts you have made leave no doubt why you would support the guy!
over my head

Elkland, PA

#21 May 29, 2012
And everyone knows how white feels about men in uniform.
A stiff salute to them all.

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