Lol

Dunkirk, NY

#41 Mar 7, 2013
VIPER 10 wrote:
<quoted text>There will be no "vs" on my part so find something else to wish for.
Yeah, you don't want Bob to get started he seems like a real genius:)

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#42 Mar 7, 2013
Clyde10 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, there is uncertainty over the health care law and tax policy. And removing that uncertainty would be good, as businesses could better plan for the future. Removing uncertainty would also probably spur more merger and acquisition activity, which would also be good. But, my main point, and one I have still not seen refuted, is that if, as you contend, this administration was "business repressive" that would be reflected in the value of publically traded stocks, which reflects the sentiment of investors as to the prospects for those companies. Obviously, investors believe that the economy is improving and that optimism is reflected in the rising price of stocks.
Not "was" repressive but rather "is" repressive Clyde. My company is not a PTE as I stated. My employees are just starting out in life and do not have huge disposable incomes with which to invest,they are not "fat cats" by any stretch. The people of Dunkirk(my home town)and countless other "bergs" across this land I believe fall into that category as well. I truly wish to give these deserving people(all 37) raises and still be able to provide the level of healthcare that I do. I and others in the small business community who are the backbone of the economy are facing the uncertainty of the AHCA,the EPA,and proposed tax regulations.There are many jitters. What word other than repressive should I use?
Phil

Fredonia, NY

#43 Mar 7, 2013
VIPER 10 wrote:
<quoted text>Not "was" repressive but rather "is" repressive Clyde. My company is not a PTE as I stated. My employees are just starting out in life and do not have huge disposable incomes with which to invest,they are not "fat cats" by any stretch. The people of Dunkirk(my home town)and countless other "bergs" across this land I believe fall into that category as well. I truly wish to give these deserving people(all 37) raises and still be able to provide the level of healthcare that I do. I and others in the small business community who are the backbone of the economy are facing the uncertainty of the AHCA,the EPA,and proposed tax regulations.There are many jitters. What word other than repressive should I use?
Wish we had more people like you commenting.
wow

Dunkirk, NY

#44 Mar 8, 2013
Oh Phil, open your eyes just a little.
Phil

Fredonia, NY

#45 Mar 8, 2013
wow wrote:
Oh Phil, open your eyes just a little.
Ok what is it I should see. Your statement is rather vague.

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#46 Mar 8, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>Ok what is it I should see. Your statement is rather vague.
what he means is "Viper" just bee bopped and scatted all over the place and did not answer clyde's point or refute it. Viper re-read clyde's last post.
Phil

Fredonia, NY

#47 Mar 8, 2013
stashu gusinski wrote:
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what he means is "Viper" just bee bopped and scatted all over the place and did not answer clyde's point or refute it. Viper re-read clyde's last post.
Who is he and are you some sort of mind reader? The topic is personal income is it not? Do you know what a PTE is? How much of your personal income is derived from the stock market? Are you a small business owner?
SRS

Fredonia, NY

#48 Mar 8, 2013
This stupshu gushinsky doesn't know his a** from a hole in the ground. Only business he understands is when he sits on the throne in the obama great room with a can of lysol. lol Happy sequester week,the sky is falling,shoulda listened to chicken little right.

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#49 Mar 8, 2013
SRS wrote:
This stupshu gushinsky doesn't know his a** from a hole in the ground. Only business he understands is when he sits on the throne in the obama great room with a can of lysol. lol Happy sequester week,the sky is falling,shoulda listened to chicken little right.
your right I don't know my a** from your face , but I want Viper to answer the question and Phil ,yeah I am going on topix and announce my financial status ,ask joe he does that ,maybe he will meet you at the cheese factory with his paper work.
Phil

Fredonia, NY

#50 Mar 8, 2013
stashu gusinski wrote:
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your right I don't know my a** from your face , but I want Viper to answer the question and Phil ,yeah I am going on topix and announce my financial status ,ask joe he does that ,maybe he will meet you at the cheese factory with his paper work.
My point is that very few if any people in these parts derive any income from the stock market. Viper answered the question very well,I had no difficulty understanding it. Now do you know what a PTE is and are you a small business owner? Using joe as a crutch is it seems one of your exclusive trademarks. Haven't seen him post on here in a long time but he does comment in the Observer quite often. Viper made the point that personal income is down because of uncertainty in the small business sector which provides the majority of income to the public. That uncertainty is because of the pending regulations from the AHCA,the EPA and increased taxes. That's what viper said. Is it clearer now?

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#51 Mar 8, 2013
Had no idea that I would create such a firestorm over such a simple statement. The stock market has no connection whatsoever with what I pay out in wages,none! Again,I'm thrilled the stock market is doing so well but as Phil(thank you)pointed out personal income is not derived from the stock market for the typical middle income family in America. Wages provided by small business does. As I said myself and other small business owners are caught in the "dammed if you do" and "dammed if you don't" syndrome. If I hire more people or give raises and my costs go through the roof what happens. Does anyone know how hard it is to lay a valued employee off or ask for wage concessions? I'm sorry that I have to say it but the current administration is killing small business. I do not know what my costs will be 6 or 12 months down the road. I cannot make this dilemma any clearer. If you cannot understand this simple explanation,please don't slam those that do.
Terry K

Fredonia, NY

#52 Mar 8, 2013
stashu gusinski wrote:
<quoted text>
ask joe he does that ,maybe he will meet you at the cheese factory with his paper work.
Meet at the Cheese Factory ?? Joe must have changed his M.O.

Last I knew it was the food court of the mall.
Jim P

Dunkirk, NY

#53 Mar 8, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>My point is that very few if any people in these parts derive any income from the stock market.
Speak for yourself Phil, If done right, you could & should receive a dividend check monthly and that = monthly INCOME.
joe

Dunkirk, NY

#54 Mar 8, 2013
Terry K wrote:
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Meet at the Cheese Factory ?? Joe must have changed his M.O.
Last I knew it was the food court of the mall.
i prefer the cheesecake factory these days. Food court doesn't provide the privacy necessary for a financial statement challenge. Besides the cheesecake is so yummy:)
Janice

Dunkirk, NY

#55 Mar 8, 2013
VIPER 10 wrote:
Had no idea that I would create such a firestorm over such a simple statement. The stock market has no connection whatsoever with what I pay out in wages,none! Again,I'm thrilled the stock market is doing so well but as Phil(thank you)pointed out personal income is not derived from the stock market for the typical middle income family in America. Wages provided by small business does. As I
said myself and other small business owners are
caught in the "dammed if you do" and "dammed
if you don't" syndrome. If I hire more people or
give raises and my costs go through the roof
what happens. Does anyone know how hard it is
to lay a valued employee off or ask for wage
concessions? I'm sorry that I have to say it but
the current administration is killing small
business. I do not know what my costs will be 6
or 12 months down the road. I cannot make this
dilemma any clearer. If you cannot understand
this simple explanation,please don't slam those
that do.
without being too specific may I ask what kind of business you are in? My employer would be considered "small business" and we seem to be doing very well.
Terry K

Fredonia, NY

#56 Mar 8, 2013
Jim P wrote:
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Speak for yourself Phil, If done right, you could & should receive a dividend check monthly and that = monthly INCOME.
Been getting those for years. life is good.
Phil

Fredonia, NY

#57 Mar 8, 2013
Terry K wrote:
<quoted text>
Been getting those for years. life is good.
Well of course some people do as I wrote. I guess that means you are only in the 15% bracket as that is investment income and not wages correct? Some people on here are not going to like hearing that. Only the rich 1% get away with that.

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#58 Mar 8, 2013
VIPER 10 wrote:
<quoted text>Not "was" repressive but rather "is" repressive Clyde. My company is not a PTE as I stated. My employees are just starting out in life and do not have huge disposable incomes with which to invest,they are not "fat cats" by any stretch. The people of Dunkirk(my home town)and countless other "bergs" across this land I believe fall into that category as well. I truly wish to give these deserving people(all 37) raises and still be able to provide the level of healthcare that I do. I and others in the small business community who are the backbone of the economy are facing the uncertainty of the AHCA,the EPA,and proposed tax regulations.There are many jitters. What word other than repressive should I use?
I believe this goes against your repressive remark , lets face it you are anti Obama so no matter what I say falls on deaf ears .. so sit there and whine for 4 yrs. it will do no good. http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-27... .
wow

Dunkirk, NY

#59 Mar 8, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>Well of course some people do as I wrote. I guess that means you are only in the 15% bracket as that is investment income and not wages correct? Some people on here are not going to like hearing that. Only the rich 1% get away with that.
You make it seem like no one has both investment income & wages? Is that really that uncommon?

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#60 Mar 8, 2013
stashu gusinski wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe this goes against your repressive remark , lets face it you are anti Obama so no matter what I say falls on deaf ears .. so sit there and whine for 4 yrs. it will do no good. http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-27... .
I am prepared to have a civil discussion with anyone but not when you accuse me of whining from the start,so please forgo that sort of behavior. Read the last paragraph(of your WP article) and notice the words "short term" OK? My, shall we call it,construction company,is looking at the out years,not the short term. I need to know what to expect in the out years regarding tax policy,EPA regulations,and how the AHCA will impact my business. I don't know that,you don't know that and the people that wrote the law don't know that either! I'm really sorry that I have to say what I do about the administration but the truth is what it is. Do you understand the fundamentals of a non PTE Company and how it functions?

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