Juvenile facility (Montrose School or...
Glasco

Monkton, MD

#274 Aug 5, 2012
I had no bad experiences. Very little fighting occured. House mothers were very observant along with the teachers. Loosing your privileges meant something. No one really wanted to be secluded and that would happen if you fought. We participated in anything to get out of our rooms. Many girls would share their commissary with the less fortunate. I was one of the less fortunate. I really had no one to visit or send packages but an elderly grandmother that lived on a fix income.
beth

Peoria, IL

#275 Aug 5, 2012
monica parker wrote:
<quoted text> OMG YOU REALLY HAVE A GOOD MEMORY . THE ONLY NAME THAT I CAN REMEMBER IS A GIRL FROM BALITMORE NAME PRINCESS. SHE WAS A REAL TRIP, PEOPLE ALWAYS TREATED HER LIKE A LIT' QUEEN. I BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS GAY, IM NOT SURE ,EVERYBODY ALWAYS CATERED TO HER. I HOPE THAT SHE IS NOT READING THIS,CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS QUITE UGLY . SHE LOOKED LIKE A LITTLE MONKEY! DO YOU REMEMBERHER?
i remember i girl like that around that time but i belive they called her halfpint she acted like she was better then everyone else do you remember mrs rose i loved her she was the only nice i remember do you remember the montrose song lol
smartchick43

Caledonia, OH

#276 Aug 6, 2012
I go to Montrose school so pity me
There's not a cute boy in the vicinity
smartchick43

Caledonia, OH

#277 Aug 6, 2012
A couple of things I would like to know from everyone.

WHY were you at Montrose?

If you were sent by juvenile court, did you have an attorney?
Glasco

Baltimore, MD

#278 Aug 6, 2012
I don't remember Princess. I was very popular. I remember Ira Glover who could sing good. Her mother was the well known Ruby Glover. I remember the Coates sister from Annapolis, Mattie Foster from Cherry Hill. I almost forgot Sylvia Dorsey. Like I said in a previous post I stayed in touch with Mr. Myers and Mr. Gholston. Mr. Gholston use to do my taxes. Mr. Myers wife at the time worked at DSS but I lost track of her. I remember a lot of gay girls but I can't think of their names. Montrose was a good experience for me. I never wanted any type of incarceration after that. The second and third generations got away with everything. I loved Mrs. Rose. I was in Myer cottage with her. I loved Mrs. Ben the cook in Guttmacher. She could cook.
beth

Peoria, IL

#279 Aug 7, 2012
andre butler wrote:
my mom is looking 4 her friends she had there they ran away
what year was your mother there i was there in the early 70 i was there like over 2 years we tryed running away but one of the girls couched right where we was hideing and we all got busted lol
beth

Peoria, IL

#280 Aug 10, 2012
we made this song up in the 1970 see if any one remembers it lol they say here at motrose the biscuites are mighty fine one rolled off the table and killed a friend of mine oh gee mom i wanna but they wont let me gee mom i waana go home they say here at montrose the movies are mighty fine you ask for jerry lewis they give you frankenstein gee mom i wanna go homethey say here at montrose the allowance is mighty fine you ask for a dollar they give 99 gee mom i wanna go but they wont let me home gee mom i wanna go home thats all i remember any one remember the rest lol
smartchick43

Caledonia, OH

#281 Aug 10, 2012
This was I think originally a song about being in the army

The biscuits in the army
they say are mighty fine
one rolled off the table
and killed a friend of mine
I have had enough of army life
Please mom, I want to go home

I remember hearing guys sing this when I was a kid in the 40s.
Glasco

Ardsley, NY

#282 Aug 11, 2012
that is an old song. We sang that in the 60's when I was there.
beth wrote:
we made this song up in the 1970 see if any one remembers it lol they say here at motrose the biscuites are mighty fine one rolled off the table and killed a friend of mine oh gee mom i wanna but they wont let me gee mom i waana go home they say here at montrose the movies are mighty fine you ask for jerry lewis they give you frankenstein gee mom i wanna go homethey say here at montrose the allowance is mighty fine you ask for a dollar they give 99 gee mom i wanna go but they wont let me home gee mom i wanna go home thats all i remember any one remember the rest lol
beth

Peoria, IL

#283 Aug 13, 2012
i am trying to help some one find anything about her mother all she knows is that she was a orphan and that she was in montrose and her name was kathleen droney so if any one out there remembers her please anwser back she would realy like to no anything you can tell her she does no that her mother has passed away but would like to no what she was like what she looked like anything would be nice thank you so much and that she was born in 1975 her mother was 18 at the time that all she no
beth

Peoria, IL

#285 Aug 20, 2012
i am not trying to find her mother she has passed away she has no famly to find all she wants to no if any one was in there with her and what she was like what she may have looked like all she nos about her is that she was born in 1956 and that she was a orphan and that her name was kathleen droney and that she was a ward of the state so if any one can help please respond she realy love to no anything she can find out
ruth

Bowie, MD

#286 Aug 26, 2012
My mother paid for an atty but he wasn't there for me. He told me to lie if they asked about my mother. The commisioner, named Ross (I still remember HIS name), never asked me anything. He ignored social services. He just semt me to Montrose. Again my rights were violated in the sentencing. If it's important, I will tell you but it was just one more violation of my rights in the whole thing.
Anonymous

Caledonia, OH

#287 Aug 27, 2012
My rights were trampled on too. I was sent to Montrose for running away from home. I had been abused by my step-father for many years, from the time I was about 5 until I ran away at age 16. Wneh I was 'caught' the police put me in city jail, then I went to juvenile court at the Pine St. station, and was jdged to be an 'incorrigible minor' and sent right away to Montrose.

And this is even after the first time I ran away I went to the police at Northern station and told them about the abuse. They just took me home and warned my step-father not to abuse me any more (that's how the cops handled it in the "old days") So I ran away again and that is when I was sent to Montrose.

And talking about rights being trampled, once I was out of the home my step-father started abusing my half-sister (his own child), and then SHE ran away. When she was cught sshe also had no representation and went to juvenile court. My step-father had a lawyer (Fred Colodner) and he got away with it again, but my half-sister was sent to House of Good Shepherd@! So, both of us were locked up for what HE did!!
ruth

Bowie, MD

#288 Aug 29, 2012
I had friends who went to House of Good Shepard. They were Catholic. I have always believed I got off lucky bcuz if u were sent to Good Shepard you were there for years!! At least during my time, anyway. But like I said I got ripped off on sentencing time (just another clear cut violation, you could not extend a sentence bcuz of law changes-ONLY DECREASE-BUT NOT FOR JUVENILES!!!!
D5 remembers

Baltimore, MD

#289 Sep 3, 2012
Smart Chick-
We have many similarities in our stories.... I had a miscarraige and almost bled to death on the floor after setting off the bells... The housemothers made me wash the blood from the sheets and floor in a bucket of cold water, constantly berating me for continuing to soil the floor with blood. I too went to University of MD hospital... so far away from Reisterstown with the sirens wailing in the night. I only remember counting backwards from 100 and then went under. I can't describe the room, just a light overhead. Montrose denied me medical attention until I passed out and they got scared as to what to do with me. They ignored me as I begged for help. Someone finally came from the infirmary and saved my life... I remember a voice saying, "Why wasn't I called earlier? This girl needs immediate medical attention."

Pine Street station lead to cour and that was a direct ride to Montrose for being incorigible... running away from home. Your story haunts me as I had been praying for a miscarraige so as not to bring a child into state custody... Maybe it wasn't the power of prayer after all. Let me know how to contact you...
D5 remembers

Baltimore, MD

#290 Sep 3, 2012
Ruth,
Can you remember which court you appeared before commissioner Ross? Was it in Prince Georges county or Baltimore? Thanks much.
D5 remembers

Baltimore, MD

#291 Sep 3, 2012
Smart Chick,

The whole nasty miscarraige business also took place for me in the middle of the night.

Hope things are good for you now...

D.
D5 remembers

Baltimore, MD

#292 Sep 3, 2012
Link to article re history of Pine Street Station.
Never knew it catered to 'women and chidren' before it closed it's doors in 1971. It opened again 20 years later in 1991 as University of MD police headquarters after extensive renovations.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-04-29/n...

Just copy and paste if the link doesn't work.
Glasco

Baltimore, MD

#293 Sep 4, 2012
I remember Pine Street. I had to stay there until I was seen by the judge. I had gotten into trouble when I got released and the release was not not finalized. I forgot the name of the release it was called. Pine Street was a prison and frightening for a adolescent. I stayed over night and I was cold. I was 14. That was the only horror I really experienced.
ruth

Bowie, MD

#294 Sep 4, 2012
It was P.G. Co. Juvenile courts. Our Pine Street was Waxter's. It was rural area back then. But everytime I ride on Rt 198 I see the sign for Waxters children ctr. So it looks like it's still up and running.I haven't been there lately. I'm going to see if I can get somebody 2 ride me by there. See if the sign is still there and this time I might try to get up there. It was still surrounded by trees and secluded even though before, after and I think across the street it's all stores (shopping centers too) and businesses. I don't know how much property they have. I was only there once and that was because Ross ran his court that day til well after the 4:30P.M. closing time. I thougt it would be postponed to another day BUT NNOOOOOO he kept going. I think I was called around 5-5:30P. Anway, I was put in a holding cell until a cop could be spared as the normal transport people (whoever they were)left at 4:30P!! Anyway, they held me in jail until it was too late to go to Montrose. Missed dinner at Waxter's, did get to smoke the before bed ciarette (you could smoke 4 cigarettes a day there [none at all at Montrose (forced to go cold turkey then is one reason I don't want to quit, I think)]. Waxter's was so crowded I had to sleep on the floor in the hall (which I think was a big NoNo for the big near riot it caused. I didn't give a crap as I was leaving in the morning). I had just lit (which is funny because they wouldn't give us matches. They would light 1 match and everyone was pushing and shoving to get theirs lit. I think 1 match lit about 10 cigarettes. Then they would light another match and so on. I had just got mine lit, had only taken 1 or 2 drags and they called my name, my ride was there. I remember I tried to have them wait so I could smoke my last cigarette but Noooooo. I was puffing and walking real slow and they snatched that cigarette. That's ok I have made up for it. Doesn't it seem strange though that both Pne St and Montrose are now/still security (for lack of a better word) places. I'll let u know what I find out about Waxter's.

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