Concealed Weapon Bill Creating Much C...

Concealed Weapon Bill Creating Much Controversy

There are 35 comments on the WLTX Columbia story from May 8, 2007, titled Concealed Weapon Bill Creating Much Controversy. In it, WLTX Columbia reports that:

Should concealed weapons be allowed on school campuses? The answer is simple to Rep.

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rwwllms

“If you can't be a good example”

Since: Mar 07

be a warning

#1 May 8, 2007
Makes one think of a Quentin Tarrentino movie:

A car on campus backfires. Everyone pulls out their gun mistaking the backfire for gun fire. Everyone then sees everyone else waving guns around so everyone starts firing at everyone. Headlines read "Car Backire Kills Thousands".

"Hey Moe! Hey Larry! Whoo whoo whoo whoo!"

Course I gues that's one way to make campus' safe, kill off all the students.
Counrty Girl

Summerville, SC

#3 May 8, 2007
With all of the schools that have law enforcement officers on site they should have a weapon. There are some administrators that I wouldn't want to have a weapon.
LINDA ABNEY

Maxton, NC

#4 May 8, 2007
THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS WHOLE ORDEAL IS THE LAW MAKERS THAT WANT THIS LAW TO PASS BETTER THINK LONG AND HARD. WHAT IF YOU GET IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU GOT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WITH GUNS AND GUN FIRE ERUPT EVERYBODY IS PANICING GRABBING THEIR GUNS AND SOME WILL GET INTO THE GUN FIRE. YES EVERYBODY WANTS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES BUT LETS BE REAL ABOUT THIS NONE OF US KNOWS WHAT SOMEONE IS THINKING. YOU BETTER START PRAYING AND REMEMBERING JESUS GOT IT ALL IN HIS HANDS SO MANY OF US WILL NOT HUMBLE OURSELVES DOWN TO THE LORD AND UNTIL WE DO, EXPECT THIS WORLD TO GO DOWN.
Mary Long

Cheraw, SC

#5 May 8, 2007
I think it is insane to allow students to carry a concealed weapon on campus. I don't think teachers should have one either. Is that teacher or student were to take another's life, would they be able to live the rest of their lives knowing that they took someone's life? If they draw a gun and aren't prepared to use it, they may have it used on themselves instead.
bob the dinosaur

Little River, SC

#6 May 8, 2007
I am against every form of gun control there is. But I have to say that many college students spend a lot of time drinking and doing other things that diminish their capacity to make good decisions. I know, it's hard to believe, but it's true. If the government is going to step in and do something about this, they need to assign an armed officer to each building (more than one for larger buildings) for normal class hours. Additionally, it wouldn't be a bad idea to give each faculty member a wireless panic alarm that would alert campus police in the event of any kind of emergency. The armed officer idea is probably not fiscally feasible.
Lonewolf

Leesville, SC

#8 May 8, 2007
How many accidental shootings in the dorms will take place before they recind this law,if it ever gets passed?There's a good bit of grabass going on in the dorms after hours.
Lonewolf

Leesville, SC

#9 May 8, 2007
To get a driver's license in this state,someone usually "teaches" you either a pro or amateur,and,you have to take and pass a test.Look at the state's driving record.It's not that difficult to get a CWP just have to jump through some hoops.
Pam

AOL

#10 May 8, 2007
Warlock's post: "If you people knew anything about what it takes to get a concealed weapons permit..training is involved...you wouldn't make such ignorant comments."

My ex had a permit. His training allowed him to carry a weapon everywhere. This is the same person that shot at me, my daughter, neighborhood kids walking through the yard...you get the picture. If the establishment can't get the troubled ones that are endangering others better identified and some type of action taken before tragedies like VT, how can they be depended on to set up a program that's not going to backfire. Too many walking around that just need one more thing to set them off.
GGQ

White House, TN

#11 May 8, 2007
I certainly hope this goes no further than it already has. Very ridiculous idea. What about mace or pepper spray? Every one should have that. Mace along with a knee and/or an elbow has been known to work wonders.

rwwllms

“If you can't be a good example”

Since: Mar 07

be a warning

#12 May 8, 2007
Guy I used to work with wanted to be a cop. But they kept turning him down. Why? He just wanted to walk around carrying a gun and maybe actually get to shoot someone. He was one of the first in line to get a CWP when it became legal in this state. He got it. Yeah, they weed out the weirdos. I believe that. Another guy I know got one too. He's a big pot head. Yep, only the well balenced people get CWPs. Riiigghhhtt.

BWG

“Cogito ergo sum”

Since: May 07

Irmo

#14 May 9, 2007
Two states, Utah and Oregon have laws that allow people with Concealed Weapon Permits (CWP) to carry on college campuses. In South Carolina, this is a political, knee jerk or What If reaction to the latest massacre in a Gun Free zone.

One side questions what might have happened if some legal, law abiding, adult, citizen with a CWP had been able to reach a firearm and prevented Cho from killing all those people. The other side would of course take more legislative action to take firearms away from those who did not do the crime. Their ideal solution is to make more gun free zones, like your house for instance.

These are the sort of people who tell you to lie down and play dead when confronted by a bear in the woods. They donít go into the woods, so for them, itís not a real concern, except for the rights of the bear. They are not going to want to spend the money for the impossible task of putting cameras and guards in the schools, so they will just call for more ďfeel goodĒ legislature, which they will not enforce. Meanwhile the bears will still be able to steal guns and feed in more gun free zones.

We live in a violent society and need to be able to protect ourselves. None of those students may have chosen to legally carry a weapon but a school official, a teacher, an off duty cop, a military veteran, or a trained, licensed adult with a CWP or a gun in a glove box has made a difference in other similar situations. Playing dead and calling 9-11 will get you eaten. Kind of like being in your house at 3 in the morning when someone kicks in your door, either you got a plan or you donít

The real issue is people with identified mental health problems are a danger to themselves or others should not be allowed to buy firearms. Cho should have been in a hospital. The doctors, school officials and local police should have dealt with him. Under Federal law, he should not have been allowed to buy a weapon. Our politicians need to solve that problem first.
Outfieldjack

Columbia, SC

#15 May 9, 2007
Well said BWG.
Justice

AOL

#16 May 9, 2007
columbia WARLOCK wrote:
<quoted text>
Lord have mercy...I retract my post...that is just incredible...
But still....you can't predict psychos.
Lmaoooo, you are so right Mr. WARLOCK. They come in all shapes, sizes, and colors.

“Don't Worry, Be Happy”

Since: Apr 07

Smile...Someone loves you!

#17 May 9, 2007
It might be a better idea if some of the Teachers, guards, etc. were trained and carried Tasers. Less chance of an accidental killing. I understand those things will knock you on your tail in a heartbeat.
Dean Fowler

Cayce, SC

#19 May 9, 2007
I think Rep. Duncan has a great idea. Let people exercise their right to defend themselves. Stating that an area is "gun free" only applies to law abiding citizens, as we saw recently in Virginia.
Five years ago at the Appalachian Law School, a would-be-murderer showed up. Students rushed for their vehicles, grabbed their guns and pinned the assailant down UNTIL THE POLICE ARRIVED. How many lives were saved then? How different would Virginia Tech be today if responsible citizens had not been deprived of their second amendment rights?
Predictably, the old "Wild West" argument has been tossed out from the far left's bag of talking points. As I recall, it has been used every time concealed weapon issues have come up here and in other states. It is an old argument and it has never been validated. Always, in fact, quite the opposite occurs and we see a significant drop in crime rates. Concealed weapon permit holders are some of the most respectable and law abiding citizens. CWP holders have undergone FBI checks and fingerprinting as well as legal and physical firearm training. Concealed weapon holders see it as their responsibility to defend themselves and the lives of their families. They take this responsibility seriously and as such, practice with their firearm much more than any police officer who trains a "few times annually". I would ask that you try running a poll on CWP holders and their amount of practice versus the Police force.
I find the statements of Police Chief Howard Cook nauseating, insulting, and quite elitist. I wonder, Mr. Cook, can you replace someone's right to defend themselves with an immediately available and viable alternative to the privately held firearm? I think not. As hard as I'm sure your officers work, they can't be there for everyone. They never will be able to be. For those of us that do not want to depend on your response time in immediate and dire situations, we choose our lives over your "opinion". I think I will take responsibility for the lives of myself and family. I am completely shocked that someone, tasked with dealing with criminals, would be so naive as to believe that criminals will obey the law (ridiculous) or that the public is irresponsible and unable to handle the responsibility of self defense. Someone like that, does not have the public good in mind, and should be removed from office.
Sincerely,
-Dan C Fowler

Since: Apr 07

Columbia, SC

#20 May 9, 2007
columbia WARLOCK wrote:
...ONLY THOSE WHO PASS BACKGROUND CHECKS AND RECIEVE TRAINING....
Remember, the kid who killed everyone at Virginia Tech passed a background check, too...
my 2 cents

Cayce, SC

#21 May 9, 2007
BWG wrote:
Kind of like being in your house at 3 in the morning when someone kicks in your door, either you got a plan or you donít
Just curious. How many times have you been in your house at 3 in the morning and had someone kick in the door.

The only thing a CWP does is give false confidence.
response

Columbia, SC

#22 May 9, 2007
This is the most ignorant solution to gun control I have ever heard of. I don't care how much training and background checks you do. This just opens up the flood gate to use a gun. The first time someone has an altercation over something and tempers starts flaring, that gives them the liberty to defend themselves and pull out their concealed weapon. We are creating Educational War Zones. Believe me, that's exactly what it will turn out to be.
Your mom

Columbia, SC

#23 May 9, 2007
JL Sigman wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember, the kid who killed everyone at Virginia Tech passed a background check, too...
Yes he did, but he was a wacko. I'm glad he killed himself so the ACLU can't defend him and make a big deal out of him. Now the question you have to ask yourself is, are you going to violate doctor-patient confidentiality and make that public for mentally disabled people? More freedoms will be infringed.
Dean Fowler

Cayce, SC

#24 May 9, 2007
I am sorry but all of the great minds on this board are not going to convince me that someone miles away is better off being responsible for my safety. I like my odds better than those who choose not to take responsibility for their own lives. Thank God our State government agrees with me and not you folks with your silly theories of how the world SHOULD BE. I only pray that you are never proven wrong directly. But should you ever be, please ask that the perpetrator reconsider his/ her life and put the weapon down and go home... Good luck with that.

Sincerely,
-Dean C Fowler III

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