Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#7486 Apr 23, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>You have written many foolish things on here, but you take the cake when you keep trying to claim that Jesus would be a liberal. To trivialize Jesus in terms of what political bent He would take is insulting. But to look at the positions that a "liberal" would take and to then claim that Jesus would be in agreement is to do nothing but illustrate your ignorance of the Gospel. Make all the arguments you want to support the liberal agenda you are so enamored with, but out of respect for the Christian faith, kindly leave Jesus out of your arguments.
Ever actually read the New Testament ?

Here's your obligations according to Jesus - His words - not mine.

Then I, the King, shall say to those at my right, "Come, blessed of my Father, into the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.
For I was hungry and you fed me; I was thirsty and you gave me water;
I was a stranger and you invited me into your homes; naked and you clothed me; sick and in prison, and you visited me."
Then these righteous ones will reply, "Sir, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you anything to drink? Or a stranger, and help you? Or naked, and clothe you? When did we ever see you sick or in prison, and visit you?"
And I, the King, will tell them, "When you did it to these my brothers you were doing it to me!"

Then I will turn to those on my left and say, "Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.

For I was hungry and you wouldn't feed me; thirsty, and you wouldn't give me anything to drink; a stranger, and you refused me hospitality; naked, and you wouldn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me."

Then they will reply, "Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?"

And I will answer, "When you refused to help the least of these my brothers, you were refusing help to me." And they shall go away into eternal punishment; but the righteous into everlasting life."

Now that's a Social Security loving, Medicare loving, Medicaid loving, Food Stamp loving, Free School Lunch loving, card carrying ACLU bleeding heart leeeeeberal if there ever was one.
Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#7487 Apr 23, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>Well, that was a really loud fart in church.

Course the peacemakers are nothing more than appeasers when the bloodlust is running high.

And the instructions to give your cloak and shirt only apply to individual requests and are not symbolic of, nor equal to, indirect aide to the poor, the sick, the unforunate, the widows, the orphans, the stranger.

And driving out the money changers from the temple is not a lesson in the dangers of entangling commercial interests with the real work of the church.

We all know that conservatives give more to charity, that the rich have their rewards on earth, and the pious never declare that their political posturing is on firm grounding because the Bible says so.
Great post.

As usual, Right Wingers hate facts when it slaps them in the face like their momma used to when they belched at the dining room table.

They have to get all fired up, because unless you have the IQ of a small rodent, you can't read the New Testament without learning Jesus was a bleeding heart "Libtard" ( as Right Wingers claim liberals to be).

It's intellectually impossible to be a follower of Christ and not be a leeeeeeberal.

It's like claiming to be a fish and hating water.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#7488 Apr 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Then they will reply, "Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?"
But Lord, we gave them boots with straps, they were free to pull themselves up. Why am I to blame that they are stuck in the muck and mire, the rising tide will lift all upward to thy greater glory.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#7489 Apr 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever actually read the New Testament ?
Here's your obligations according to Jesus - His words - not mine.
Then I, the King, shall say to those at my right, "Come, blessed of my Father, into the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.
For I was hungry and you fed me; I was thirsty and you gave me water;
I was a stranger and you invited me into your homes; naked and you clothed me; sick and in prison, and you visited me."
Then these righteous ones will reply, "Sir, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you anything to drink? Or a stranger, and help you? Or naked, and clothe you? When did we ever see you sick or in prison, and visit you?"
And I, the King, will tell them, "When you did it to these my brothers you were doing it to me!"
Then I will turn to those on my left and say, "Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.
For I was hungry and you wouldn't feed me; thirsty, and you wouldn't give me anything to drink; a stranger, and you refused me hospitality; naked, and you wouldn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me."
Then they will reply, "Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?"
And I will answer, "When you refused to help the least of these my brothers, you were refusing help to me." And they shall go away into eternal punishment; but the righteous into everlasting life."
Now that's a Social Security loving, Medicare loving, Medicaid loving, Food Stamp loving, Free School Lunch loving, card carrying ACLU bleeding heart leeeeeberal if there ever was one.
And all these are the tenets we are to live by as individuals. There is no virtue in reaching into another's pocket to make you feel better or superior. Especially when the programs that are financed in that way do nothing to actually help the recipients, they only serve to keep those people trapped in a system that neither encourages them to improve their lives or to achieve independence. The welfare reform that Republicans forced Clinton into (that he now claims credit for) actually helped people get off the rolls and into self sufficiency. But Obama ended that success story. 40 years and $15 trillion later and the poverty statistics have not changed. But study after study shows that conservatives and Republicans do far more to follow Jesus' instructions to care for the poor and the needy by contributing THEIR OWN money to help them, not by following the Liberal model of forcing others to contribute to failed programs that do nothing but allow the Liberals to falsely claim that they actually care more.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7490 Apr 23, 2013
Bored wrote:
"Economics? Disagree with welfare, and you're full of hate and intolerance towards the poor. Social issues? Disagree with the left on abortion or gay marriage, and you don't like women or gays. Foreign policy? Disagree on foreign policy, and you hate Muslims, Palestinians, and the poor in less fortunate countries. Second Amendment? If you support gun rights, then you have a cold and callous view towards the victims of gun violence. Affirmative action? If you disagree with affirmative action, then you're a racist. Unions? Disagree with them, and you despise working-class Americans."
The new frantic stage of the libtards.
+1 Great post.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7491 Apr 23, 2013
Bored wrote:
"The left has brainwashed thousands of people across the country into seeking out chances to be offended. Meanwhile, these same people who act hysterically offended by a differing political view will pay $90 to attend a comedy show, laughing the hardest of anyone at the comedian's racist, misogynist, and obscene jokes."
Libtards showing their prejudices.
As I have pointed out before, liberals live by a double standard. It's wrong UNLESS it applies to THEM.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7492 Apr 23, 2013
Bored wrote:
Libtards for Obama go to trail.
"The trial is underway for a former Democratic official and a Board of Elections worker who are accused of being part of a plot that has raised questions over whether President Obama's campaign -- when he was a candidate in 2008 -- submitted enough legitimate signatures to have legally qualified for the presidential primary ballot.
The two face charges of orchestrating an illegal scheme to fake the petitions that enabled then-candidates Obama, and Hillary Clinton, to qualify for the race in Indiana."
"Two former Board of Elections officials have already pleaded guilty to charges related to the scheme and could testify against Morgan and Blythe."
""That's not my signature," Charity Rorie, a mother of four, told Fox News when showed the Obama petition with her name and signature. She said it "absolutely" was a fake."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/22/tr...
These people were needed because the New Black Panthers were already busy. They were standing outside voting precincts intimidating voters.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#7493 Apr 23, 2013
prove it wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know why anyone is wasting time on this scheme. We all know he has a fake birth certificate and was born in Africa. Donald Trump can prove it!!
If a conservative even had a HINT of this crap in his background, you libs would be going insane. It's that old liberal double standard. With Obama's very questionalbe past, if he had been white, he wouldn't have even been ASKED to speak at the DNC much less gotten the nomination later. You know it and so does everyone else. He has been given a blanket pass because he is black. No other reason. Social experiement.
Scott

Jefferson, GA

#7494 Apr 23, 2013
This is my favorite part of Informed's post above:

Jesus said:
Then I will turn to those on the LEFT and say, "Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7495 Apr 23, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>I voted for Obama and have never viewed him as my God. I am also leaning more and more towards socialism the older I get. I think we are our brothers keeper. I feel it's our place to do for others that are to ignorant to do for themselves. Everyone is not blessed with the proper upbringing that it requires to do for themselves. To turn our back on them or to look down on them is not the American and certainly not the Christian thing to do.
Just how long should we care for these unfortunate people. I Assume that most can use a shovel and a pick or have any ability to do something but sit on their butts with their hands out. So Just how long would Jesus keep feeding them without them learning how to fish to feed themselves?
It isn't that conservatives aren't compassionate. It is because we see that in most cases we are being taken for a sucker, and our tax dollars and donations are being abused by lazy people. I have no problem helping the down and out. But to just throw money to people that know how to vote for the man that will give them the most benefits for the rest of their lives is wrong. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
If you want to work hard and take away from your family to give to others that are sitting on their butt doing dope, drinking beer and having sex all the time to get bigger welfare checks than go for it. I don't.

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7496 Apr 23, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose you dont care for the 4th amendment either.
"Shocking Footage: Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams"
"The video, shot by a resident from their own house across the street, shows police barking orders at men and women as they order them at gunpoint to identify themselves, put their hands on their heads, and get out of their own home. They are then ordered to run down the street to be further frisked by police as scores of armed militarized cops look on."
http://www.infowars.com/shocking-footage-amer...
I mentioned what I thought of this martial law that was perpetrated on America in a original post "What The Media Won't Tell You". No one seemed interested as usual as they would rather have so called security over their Constitutional rights. The news media and the government propaganda machine has people so scared that they are willing to give up all their rights just to capture a 19 year old terrorist kid. The government just declared martial law to catch one man. The government just shut down a huge American city. Doesn't anyone but you and me understand the implications of this? The government just declared martial law and got away with it!

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7497 Apr 23, 2013
just curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You are correct again!! Jesus would starve the poor on a daily basis, preferring not to help them since they were so lazy, just like a certain group wants to do today. He had no compassion for others who did not have the tools to prosper on their own, and was strictly for what was good for him, just like a certain group does today. He had no problem when bankers (moneychangers) overcharged the citizens of the time, they deserved to be taken advantage of and making rules to prevent that is bad, the same as a certain group does today. The group is mainly southern based and consider themselves to be religious. How can that be when our Savior was so liberal on social issues, and he surely had DARK skin like a certain hated leader does today, oh my.
Which reincarnation of the Gospel do you prefer? Which Christian faith do you follow, are you a member of the largest Christian faith in the world, Catholic? Or one of the smaller Christian faiths like Evangelical.
Just curious, whatever you believe is a personal issue and really no one else’s business. I am sure you will at least agree with that.
Your full of Bull.

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7498 Apr 23, 2013
prove it wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know why anyone is wasting time on this scheme. We all know he has a fake birth certificate and was born in Africa. Donald Trump can prove it!!
What a sorry excuse for a reply. You have no legitimate reply so you resort to pure garbage. Why bother to waste our time?

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7499 Apr 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
You see that's just it.
I have read the Bible.
Jesus's words - not mine:
Peacemaking, not War Making:
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.[Matthew 5:9]
Resist
not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.[Matthew 5:39]
I say unto you, Love your
enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute
you; [Matthew 5:44]
Crime and Punishment:
If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her.[John 8:7]
Do not judge, lest
you too be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to
you.[Matthew 7:1 & 2.]
Justice:
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.[Matthew 5:6]
Blessed are the
merciful: for they shall obtain mercy [Matthew 5:7]
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your
trespasses.[Matthew 6:15]
Corporate Greed and the Religion of Wealth:
In the temple courts [Jesus] found men selling cattle, sheep and doves and other
sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle;
he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.[John 2:14 & 15.]
Watch out! Be on your guard against
all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.[Luke 12.15.]
Truly, I say unto you, it will
be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.[Matthew 19:23]
Paying Taxes & Separation of Church & State:
Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the
things that are God's.[Matthew 22:21]
Community: Love your neighbor as yourself..[Matthew 22:39]
So in everything, do to others as you would have them do to you.
[Matthew 7:12.]
If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
[Matthew 19:21]
Equality & Social Programs:
But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed,
because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.[Luke 14:13 &14.]
Public Prayer & Displays of Faith:
And when thou pray, thou shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in
the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
But thou, when thou pray, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret…
[Matthew 6:6 & 7]
Strict Enforcement of Religious Laws:
If any of you has a son or a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take
hold of it and lift it out?[Matthew 12:11]
The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.[Mark 2:27.]
Are you that poor disturbed person that also calls himself, The Great Revealer?

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7500 Apr 23, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever actually read the New Testament ?
Here's your obligations according to Jesus - His words - not mine.
Then I, the King, shall say to those at my right, "Come, blessed of my Father, into the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.
For I was hungry and you fed me; I was thirsty and you gave me water;
I was a stranger and you invited me into your homes; naked and you clothed me; sick and in prison, and you visited me."
Then these righteous ones will reply, "Sir, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you anything to drink? Or a stranger, and help you? Or naked, and clothe you? When did we ever see you sick or in prison, and visit you?"
And I, the King, will tell them, "When you did it to these my brothers you were doing it to me!"
Then I will turn to those on my left and say, "Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.
For I was hungry and you wouldn't feed me; thirsty, and you wouldn't give me anything to drink; a stranger, and you refused me hospitality; naked, and you wouldn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me."
Then they will reply, "Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?"
And I will answer, "When you refused to help the least of these my brothers, you were refusing help to me." And they shall go away into eternal punishment; but the righteous into everlasting life."
Now that's a Social Security loving, Medicare loving, Medicaid loving, Food Stamp loving, Free School Lunch loving, card carrying ACLU bleeding heart leeeeeberal if there ever was one.
Did you ever think about reading the New Testament and actually understanding what it says instead of just picking phrases out and editing them to suit your warped thinking? There are whole stories being told from the beginning to the end, which are meant to be taken in as something meaningful and as common sense lessons to be learned. Not to pick out parts of it here and there.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#7501 Apr 23, 2013
Meet the 28-Year-Old Grad Student Who Just Shook the Global Austerity Movement
By Kevin Roose
4/18/13 at 4:29 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/...

Most Ph.D. students spend their days reading esoteric books and stressing out about the tenure-track job market. Thomas Herndon, a 28-year-old economics grad student at UMass Amherst, just used part of his spring semester to shake the intellectual foundation of the global austerity movement.

Herndon became instantly famous in nerdy economics circles this week as the lead author of a recent paper, "Does High Public Debt Consistently Stifle Economic Growth? A Critique of Reinhart and Rogoff," that took aim at a massively influential study by two Harvard professors named Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff. Herndon found some hidden errors in Reinhart and Rogoff's data set, then calmly took the entire study out back and slaughtered it. Herndon's takedown — which first appeared in a Mike Konczal post that crashed its host site with traffic — was an immediate sensation. It was cited by prominent anti-austerians like Paul Krugman, spoken about by incoming Bank of England governor Mark Carney, and mentioned on CNBC and several other news outlets as proof that the pro-austerity movement is based, at least in part, on bogus math....

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#7502 Apr 23, 2013
Oh my wrote:
Meet the 28-Year-Old Grad Student Who Just Shook the Global Austerity Movement
By Kevin Roose
4/18/13 at 4:29 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/...
Most Ph.D. students spend their days reading esoteric books and stressing out about the tenure-track job market. Thomas Herndon, a 28-year-old economics grad student at UMass Amherst, just used part of his spring semester to shake the intellectual foundation of the global austerity movement.
Herndon became instantly famous in nerdy economics circles this week as the lead author of a recent paper, "Does High Public Debt Consistently Stifle Economic Growth? A Critique of Reinhart and Rogoff," that took aim at a massively influential study by two Harvard professors named Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff. Herndon found some hidden errors in Reinhart and Rogoff's data set, then calmly took the entire study out back and slaughtered it. Herndon's takedown — which first appeared in a Mike Konczal post that crashed its host site with traffic — was an immediate sensation. It was cited by prominent anti-austerians like Paul Krugman, spoken about by incoming Bank of England governor Mark Carney, and mentioned on CNBC and several other news outlets as proof that the pro-austerity movement is based, at least in part, on bogus math....
I saw the interview with him. He is a very young man and has very little real life wisdom.
His basic theory is to spend your way out of a depression. If that works then why don't you and I do that, and I bet we go bankrupt very quickly. He wants the countries to keep printing money and spending it to keep the economy up. He says that cutting spending just causes more job loses and a weaker economy.
He is probably correct about that but I wonder just how long a country can keep printing money and overspending before it actually collapses. It might be a no win situation either way. The moral of the story is not to let your country spend more than it takes in and live within a budget. This country has had no budget in 4 years. Hummm, could that be a problem? I wonder what he would say about that?
Since I am not an economic professor all these people can claim anything and it is probably just smoke and mirrors. None of these so called experts agree. If any of them are correct then why hasn't anything worked? All I know is old fashioned economics such as make a budget and live within your means has worked since almost the beginning of man. Common sense and trial and error over centuries have proven it that to be true.
Perhaps the only way out is total economic collapse, hurt for awhile, and start over. That is how it will end for sure if we keep spending more than we take in to run this country.
columbus native

Edmond, OK

#7503 Apr 23, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but you can't separate one from the other, Freedon of Reilgion and Freedom from Religion are two sides of the same coin.
When the Supreme Court stopped the reading of daily devotionals over the PA System in my elementary school it did not prohibit public worship, Christians still had numerous churches to attend, but it did disentangle the state from promoting religion.
Perhaps you could explain how public worship is currently prohibited, because I see many doezens of churches within our small community, I see street corner preachers hawking their wares, I see people praying in public, I see the open display of religion on private property during religious holidays, I see religious opinions expressed in the local paper and on public message boards like this.
It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson
Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptists
Very good statements indeed. These christians can't agree on many things themselves but want all of us to accept their christ. This is one of the reasons you could'nt buy alcohol on sundays and many would prevent all of us from buying liquor anytime. Another reason they draw all of us into war ,to fight muslims who think differenly about God. They are always trying to be fixers to almost all countries with our tax dollars. Let them worship the way they want and leave the rest of us the hell alone. These big churches have been collecting billions of dollars every year and don't have to pay taxes. They buy all kinds of real estate investment property and yet they claim to be non-profit BS! This country needs a lot of fixing up itself before it can inspire other countries to help themselves.
columbus native

Edmond, OK

#7504 Apr 23, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>Without God there will always be something missing. It's our duty to teach them to understand the pledge they are taking and if you don't consent to it you're not an american.
It's good to worship and teach God to yourself, the problem comes when you try and push it on others who are'nt interested.
columbus native

Edmond, OK

#7505 Apr 23, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you should read back a few pages and take a look at the insults CN has thrown. I don't look for trouble. You don't know me, so to make a judgement in regard to whether or not I have compassion for people "beneath" me is rather judgemental of YOU. I have compassion for people whom I feel need it and deserve it. There is not one lib on this site that deserves one bit of compassion from me; ESPECIALLY "Columbus Native". He IS a TROLL. Unless you've been reading for quite sometime while not posting, you need to catch up before telling me, or anyone else for that matter, whether we have human compassion or not. See, that's YOUR problelm. You are judging people when you don't have all the facts. Sheesh.......
What is this "why is everybody picking on me" Don't play the role of a martyr just answer my questions without resorting to some shallow statement TROLL. See you can't explain romney and give some intelligent defining answers to why he should be president. Come on now we are all waiting! You republicans are just pissed we all had to rebuke him from the Whitehouse. By the way the Stock Market has hit record highs, Obama is drawing down troops in Afganistan, cutting a massive bloated defence down to a right size and I could go on and on. All this will bring the deficits down.

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