Verona man, 92, shoots intruder at home

Verona man, 92, shoots intruder at home

There are 198 comments on the Cincinnati.com story from Sep 3, 2012, titled Verona man, 92, shoots intruder at home. In it, Cincinnati.com reports that:

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wow

Herndon, VA

#166 Sep 17, 2012
just in wrote:
Have you ever seen jbaby at pizzahut? She is so discusting. Dirty clothes, dirty hair and fingernails and she is serving food to the public. Ewwww!!!!
i am not dirty so wy dont you just tell me who u are
the best friend

United States

#167 Sep 17, 2012
wow wrote:
<quoted text>
i am not dirty so wy dont you just tell me who u are
I am the best friend to this young girl u r dogging on so u got problems with her then u got a problem with me and what she does in her life does not concern u it won't kill u or make u live so leave her alone its her life let her fucking live her leave her alone ur all immature u have ur own life to live and to worry about so grow the fuck up and stop running ur mouth
I got u best friend no matter what don't let nasty people drag u down ur a great person
tHE sHADOW kNOWS

Lebanon, KY

#168 Sep 17, 2012
Big Daddy wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for that posting. Basically the presumption under the law is that the intruder has come to do harm.
Big Daddy I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU IF SOMEONE COMES TO MY HOUSE AND KICKS IN THE DOOR I FEEL HE IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR ALLS LEFT IS FOR THE UNDERTAKER TO BURRY HIM I AM ONLY 59 i AM A DISABLED / RETIRED POLICE OFFICER AND WILL SHOOT FIRST AND ASK QUESTIONS LATER I FEEL IF A MAN BREAKS MY DOOR DOWN HE IS INTENT TO DO ME HARM
DICK head Richard

New Albany, IN

#169 Sep 17, 2012
the best friend wrote:
<quoted text>
I am the best friend to this young girl u r dogging on so u got problems with her then u got a problem with me and what she does in her life does not concern u it won't kill u or make u live so leave her alone its her life let her fucking live her leave her alone ur all immature u have ur own life to live and to worry about so grow the fuck up and stop running ur mouth
I got u best friend no matter what don't let nasty people drag u down ur a great person
I bet you two dropped out of the same high school...no, make that middle school, together. You are as illiterate as she is.(And like i care your white trash behind has a problem with me or others on here.)
Truth hurts...Adam Maxwell was a scumbag pig, and this chick, and you too, ain't much better.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#170 Sep 17, 2012
DICK head Richard wrote:
<quoted text> Your "jokes" are not even funny or remotely witty. "LOL" at what pray tell? You on the other hand are just plain ignorant and retarded. I am not white,(Latino), but if i was, i would rather be "white trash" than an ignorant moron like yourself. As for Mr. Jones, i also heard on the news that no charges are to be brought against him by the prosecuting District Attorneys office, and he received his rifle back. So no matter what the Castle Doctrine states, he gets to walk scot-free and deservedly so. Therefore, i don't know what other "witty" comment(s) you will try to pull off now, but most likely you will be the only one to see any humor in it.
LOL, now he's got time to wish he wouldn't have had his own cattle stolen, LOL.
just passing through

New Albany, IN

#171 Sep 18, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, now he's got time to wish he wouldn't have had his own cattle stolen, LOL.
Epic fail Richard. But keep tryin' there buddy. Maybe one day you will be able to elicit a giggle from a toddler someday. They are easy audiences.
the best friend

United States

#172 Sep 18, 2012
DICK head Richard wrote:
<quoted text>
I bet you two dropped out of the same high school...no, make that middle school, together. You are as illiterate as she is.(And like i care your white trash behind has a problem with me or others on here.)
Truth hurts...Adam Maxwell was a scumbag pig, and this chick, and you too, ain't much better.
And ur not any better than any of us I graduated high school with honors so ha learn ur facts before u start running ur cock sucker and I don't give crap what u think or say about me cause I kno that what u have to say about me isn't true so keep trying to act all hard cause ur not u never will be

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#173 Sep 18, 2012
just passing through wrote:
<quoted text> Epic fail Richard. But keep tryin' there buddy. Maybe one day you will be able to elicit a giggle from a toddler someday. They are easy audiences.
So, you're saying you lied about 90 head of cattle this enstein of cattle ranching misplaced?
Dick head Richard

New Albany, IN

#174 Sep 18, 2012
the best friend wrote:
<quoted text>
And ur not any better than any of us I graduated high school with honors so ha learn ur facts before u start running ur cock sucker and I don't give crap what u think or say about me cause I kno that what u have to say about me isn't true so keep trying to act all hard cause ur not u never will be
Please let me know what remedial high school you supposedly graduated from so I can be sure as to not send my children there. You and your ilk are poster children for reasons for parents to send their children to private schools.
Richard is a moron

New Albany, IN

#175 Sep 18, 2012
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>So, you're saying you lied about 90 head of cattle this enstein of cattle ranching misplaced?
You should learn to spell good old Albert's last name before you try and use him in your version of a joke.
Earline Jones

New Albany, IN

#176 Sep 20, 2012
Good riddance! Nice shot Mr. Jones. You are a true HERO!!!!!!!!!!
HIS RIGHT

Hamilton, OH

#177 Sep 20, 2012
It was his right to shoot that boy. Any ccdw instructor in the state of KY will tell you that

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#178 Sep 20, 2012
HIS RIGHT wrote:
It was his right to shoot that boy. Any ccdw instructor in the state of KY will tell you that
There was no "RIGHT" to shoot that boy, you're sadly mistaken. If you feel that you are not mistaken, simply post the statute or amendment from your state's constitution. You won't be able to, because you're wrong...there is no "RIGHT".

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#179 Sep 20, 2012
Earline Jones wrote:
Good riddance! Nice shot Mr. Jones. You are a true HERO!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, it's true, more dead white people is good thing, makes more room for illegals and other immigrants from overseas.
HIS RIGHT

Hamilton, OH

#180 Sep 20, 2012
(a) Use of force justifiable for protection of property.—The use of force upon or toward the person of another is justifiable when the actor believes that such force is immediately necessary:
(1) to prevent or terminate an unlawful entry or other trespass upon land or a trespass against or the unlawful carrying away of tangible movable property, if such land or movable property is, or is believed by the actor to be, in his possession or in the possession of another person for whose protection he acts; or
(2) to effect an entry or reentry upon land or to retake tangible movable property, if:
(i) the actor believes that he or the person by whose authority he acts or a person from whom he or such other person derives title was unlawfully dispossessed of such land or movable property and is entitled to possession; and
(ii)—
(A) the force is used immediately or on fresh pursuit after such dispossession; or
(B) the actor believes that the person against whom he uses force has no claim of right to the possession of the property and, in the case of land, the circumstances, as the actor believes them to be, are of such urgency that it would be an exceptional hardship to postpone the entry or reentry until a court order is obtained.
(b) Meaning of possession.— For the purpose of subsection (a) of this section:
(1) A person who has parted with the custody of property to another who refuses to restore it to him is no longer in possession, unless the property is movable and was and still is located on land in his possession.
(2) A person who has been dispossessed of land does not regain possession thereof merely by setting foot thereon.
(3) A person who has a license to use or occupy real property is deemed to be in possession thereof except against the licensor acting under claim of right.
(c) Limitations on justifiable use of force.—
(1) The use of force is justifiable under this section only if the actor first requests the person against whom such force is used to desist from his interference with the property, unless the actor believes that:
(i) such request would be useless;
(ii) it would be dangerous to himself or another person to make the request; or
(iii) substantial harm will be done to the physical condition of the property which is sought to be protected before the request can effectively be made.
(2) The use of force to prevent or terminate a trespass is not justifiable under this section if the actor knows that the exclusion of the trespasser will expose him to substantial danger of serious bodily injury.
(3) The use of force to prevent an entry or reentry upon land or the recaption of movable property is not justifiable under this section, although the actor believes that such reentry or caption is unlawful, if:
(i) the reentry or recaption is made by or on behalf of a person who was actually dispossessed of the property; and
(ii) it is otherwise justifiable under subsection (a)(2).
*(4)(i) The use of deadly force is justifiable under this section if:
(A) there has been an entry into the actor’s dwelling;
(B) the actor neither believes nor has reason to believe that the entry is lawful; and
(C) the actor neither believes nor has reason to believe that force less than deadly force would be adequate to terminate the entry.
(ii) If the conditions of justification provided in sub*paragraph (i) have not been met, the use of deadly force is not justifiable under this section unless the actor believes that:
HIS RIGHT

Hamilton, OH

#181 Sep 20, 2012
(A) the person against whom the force is used is attempting to dispossess him of his dwelling otherwise than under a claim of right to its possession; or
(B) such force is necessary to prevent the commission of a felony in the dwelling.
(d) Use of confinement as protective force.— The justification afforded by this section extends to the use of confinement as protective force only if the actor takes all reasonable measures to terminate the confinement as soon as he knows that he can do so with safety to the property, unless the person confined has been arrested on a charge of crime.
(e) Use of device to protect property.—The justification afforded by this section extends to the use of a device for the purpose of protecting property only if:
(1) the device is not designed to cause or known to cre*ate a substantial risk of causing death or serious bodily injury;
(2) the use of the particular device to protect the property from entry or trespass is reasonable under the circumstances, as the actor believes them to be; and
(3) the device is one customarily used for such a purpose or reasonable care is taken to make known to probable intruders the fact that it is used.
(f) Use of force to pass wrongful obstructor.— The use of force to pass a person whom the actor believes to be intentionally or knowingly and unjustifiably obstructing the actor from going to a place to which he may lawfully go is justifiable, if:
(1) the actor believes that the person against whom he uses force has no claim of right to obstruct the actor;
(2) the actor is not being obstructed from entry or movement on land which he knows to be in the possession or custody of the person obstructing him, or in the possession or custody of another person by whose authority the obstructor acts, unless the circumstances, as the actor believes them to be, are of such urgency that it would not be reasonable to postpone the entry or movement on such land until a court order is obtained; and
(3) the force used is not greater than it would be justifiable if the person obstructing the actor were using force against him to prevent his passage.
HIS RIGHT

Hamilton, OH

#182 Sep 20, 2012
a) Use of force justifiable for protection of property.—The use of force upon or toward the person of another is justifiable when the actor believes that such force is immediately necessary:

(1) to prevent or terminate an unlawful entry or other trespass upon land or a trespass against or the unlawful carrying away of tangible movable property, if such land or movable property is, or is believed by the actor to be, in his possession or in the possession of another person for whose protection he acts; or

(2) to effect an entry or reentry upon land or to retake tangible movable property, if:

(i) the actor believes that he or the person by whose authority he acts or a person from whom he or such other person derives title was unlawfully dispossessed of such land or movable property and is entitled to possession; and

(ii)—

(A) the force is used immediately or on fresh pursuit after such dispossession; or

(B) the actor believes that the person against whom he uses force has no claim of right to the possession of the property and, in the case of land, the circumstances, as the actor believes them to be, are of such urgency that it would be an exceptional hardship to postpone the entry or reentry until a court order is obtained.

(b) Meaning of possession.— For the purpose of subsection (a) of this section:

(1) A person who has parted with the custody of property to another who refuses to restore it to him is no longer in possession, unless the property is movable and was and still is located on land in his possession.

(2) A person who has been dispossessed of land does not regain possession thereof merely by setting foot thereon.

(3) A person who has a license to use or occupy real property is deemed to be in possession thereof except against the licensor acting under claim of right.

(c) Limitations on justifiable use of force.—

(1) The use of force is justifiable under this section only if the actor first requests the person against whom such force is used to desist from his interference with the property, unless the actor believes that:

(i) such request would be useless;

(ii) it would be dangerous to himself or another person to make the request; or

(iii) substantial harm will be done to the physical condition of the property which is sought to be protected before the request can effectively be made.

(2) The use of force to prevent or terminate a trespass is not justifiable under this section if the actor knows that the exclusion of the trespasser will expose him to substantial danger of serious bodily injury.

(3) The use of force to prevent an entry or reentry upon land or the recaption of movable property is not justifiable under this section, although the actor believes that such reentry or caption is unlawful, if:

(i) the reentry or recaption is made by or on behalf of a person who was actually dispossessed of the property; and
HIS RIGHT

Hamilton, OH

#183 Sep 20, 2012
I know what I'm talking about. I have my ccdw license,and I know when I can legally use deadly force and when I can not. I have the KY state police issued handbook right here beside me.
Big Daddy

Richmond, KY

#184 Sep 20, 2012
HIS RIGHT wrote:
I know what I'm talking about. I have my ccdw license,and I know when I can legally use deadly force and when I can not. I have the KY state police issued handbook right here beside me.
While I know and you know your are a 100% correct, I doubt you can convince that numbnut named Richard. Because the statute doesn't specifically say you have the "right" to shoot he can't read the law and figure out that is exactly what it is saying. Good post though Mr. Jones was definitely "lawful ad within the law" by shooting the intruder.
LOL

Hamilton, OH

#185 Sep 20, 2012
It doesn't matter if I convince Richard really. He will find out what rights I have if he ever comes and walks into my home uninvited.

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