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#27223 Sep 7, 2013
lol........High School principal says.....
I have received several emails regarding dress code and yoga pants. There is a proper way to wear yoga pants and that is to have a pair of appropriate length shorts or an appropriate length skirt over top the pants. Long sweaters covering a girl’s posterior just as tightly as the yoga pants are still inappropriate. Girls wearing skirts and shorts are responsible for ensuring that the length of the skirt or shorts is three inches below the fingertips when the girl’s arms are at her sides.
Here's the irony of professional educators in our government schools micro- managing every decision
for which parents and children should take responsibility (from what the student wears to school to what the student donates to charity)...
FeedOhio is a statewide campaign to stock Ohio's food pantries that provide food and necessities for those in need. Between now and September 11th monetary donations can be made online at www.ohiofoodbanks.org/feedohio via credit card or PayPal. Just $1 can equal four meals. Food and personal care items can be dropped off at the Springboro Community Assistance Center located at 40 Florence Drive (Jonathan Wright School) on Saturday, Sept. 7th between 9:00 AM and 11:00 AM.
#27224 Sep 7, 2013
You and I disagree that Babb did you a favor ...
Babb did Ron Malone a favor by stepping down to allow him to have the votes that Babb would have pulled from Malone's threesome.
That's the thing about the bottom line of collective thinkers who never raise the bar -- they just hunker down and protect status quo -- and someone always has to sacrifice, individually, for the collective business as usual to survive.
Again, I will not vote for a collective threesome of SEA union
#27225 Sep 7, 2013
good grief...what a lame answer !
#27226 Sep 7, 2013
Typical "partisan" response!-- If an independent thinker does not "parrot" back what a partisan is thinking, then the partisan thinks the independent thinker response is "lame!" Where's the respect for "both sides?"
#27227 Sep 7, 2013
the least you can do non-partisan is to use your first alias instead of switching id's...that is more than lame. wasn't asking for your maiden name...was asking a general question that you got your panties in a bind over.
#27228 Sep 7, 2013
Just jumped into that partisan/non-partisan "general" question there -- just gave me a chuckle -- and the least I could do was pass a long a chuckle or two to all you uptight partisan/non-partisan ones! Love Y'all!
#27229 Sep 7, 2013
.. 1 out of 7 students getting a real education?
#27230 Sep 8, 2013
That leaves about 85% of the students wallowing somewhere along the "proficient" zone. After they graduate when rubber hits the road. this group of students especially ultimately look back to discover a lot of the core flaws in their public school education. Many say they spent not enough time learning skills that they would find useful later in life.
A common universal complaint I hear: jr high and high school was about taking repetitive tests over virtually useless and outdated curriculum that has almost nothing to do with real world blue collar, white collar, private sector, public sector applications.
#27231 Sep 8, 2013
If they don't stand for anything they cannot be criticized for anything other than being meretricious.
Not much of a platform, but for some that is all that is required.
#27232 Sep 8, 2013
Our Winning Agenda - Children's First Budget Works!
These should be happy days for everyone involved with Springboro Community City Schools – but not everyone is celebrating.
Kohls tells EAGnews some members of the local teachers union and their community supporters aren’t happy with the board’s decision to ask for a reduced levy.
“They think it’s giving back money, and you never do that,” Kohls says, adding that she speaks only for herself, not the board.
She says labor leaders want the district to tax residents at the maximum amount so its bank account is flush with cash when the next teachers’ contract is being negotiated. That way, district leaders won’t have any reason for denying the union its financial requests.
“They always want more,” Kohls says.
A national trend?
Kohls believes school districts across the U.S. could enjoy a similar turnaround, if they’d practice similar financial and leadership principles.
At the core of the board’s “children first” philosophy is the belief that school employees’ compensation – from salaried administrators to hourly support staff – should reflect the community norms.
For example, if the average resident is paying 20 percent of his or her health insurance costs and receiving a 2-3 percent annual raise, that’s what school employees should be getting, too, according to Kohls.
“I won’t agree to a labor contract unless I can look my constituents in the eye and say ‘It’s fair,’” Kohls says.
That doesn’t jibe with school employee unions that are always demanding more, and willing to use pressure tactics to get it.
That leads to Kohls’ second recommendation for other school board members who want to replicate Springboro’s success in their community: Learn the power of ‘No.’
Since most school board members receive only a small salary for their long hours and hard and often contentious work, most are unwilling to stand up to bullying union members and endure their abuse.
They end up giving in to union demands, just to make the unpleasantness stop.
But if a community is serious about fixing its school budget, Kohls says residents and board members have to “stop automatically saying ‘Yes’ to funding a system that’s not working academically or financially.”
“It doesn’t take more money,” she adds.“It takes accountability.”
via Fiscally conservative Ohio school board turns a deficit into a surplus while cutting taxes and giving raises – EAGnews.org powered by Education Action Group Foundation, Inc.
#27233 Sep 8, 2013
"The prolems of the world, cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."
(John F. Kennedy)
Mr. Malone, Where do you see the district heading?
There are a large number of unknown factors right now. The pattern at Springboro has been one of success when you look at any measurement out there. Our district has imporved drastically and is among the elite districts in the state. I sense that we are going in a different direction, and the question is, "will that direction lead us to continued improvement, or will it result in a decline in performance?" Only time will tell. amont
#27234 Sep 8, 2013
Some people get so entrenched in the old philosophy of status quo business as usual that it’s tough to get them to think whether or not something is going to help the kids.
#27235 Sep 8, 2013
The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.
Let’s stay on this new course and move in the direction of leadership for our children, schools and community. visit http://educatespringboro.org/
#27236 Sep 8, 2013
I have looked at some of the other measures out there that measure things straight forwardly utilizing the metrics Mr. Malone himself did bring to bear while grading our PSEO students taking college courses.
What I found is in conflict with Mr. Malone's statement that the district has improved dramatically.
According to the math results on each Ohio Achievement Assessment for the past 4 years, we have seen a steady drumbeat of downward progression from Third Grade, where nearly 70% of the children are mastering at least 75% or better of the material, to the Eight Grade, where we find only 20% or so mastering the material.
This phenomenon recurs yearly and is clearly demonstrated year after year in the number of correct answers our children get right on the Ohio Achievement Assessment tests.
The Class of 2018 is quite representative of this trend, perhaps your child is one of the 500 plus children captured within these numbers.
Summary for the Class of 2018
Ohio Achievement Assessment Yearly Test Results
In 4th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 50%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 50%
In 5th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 35%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 65%
In 6th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 47%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 53%
In 7th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 23%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 77%
Looking at our test results on the Ohio Achievement Assessment (OAA) test it appears as though we are trending downward, not dramatically improving as Mr. Malone cares to claim.
If this is dramatic improvement to Mr. Malone, he must have been studying these numbers with his Everyday Math book.
#27237 Sep 8, 2013
The HSTW reports and the WCESC reports prove to parents that Mr. Malone wasted school tax dollars by refusing to take advantage of opportunities for growth and change, once these were brought to his attention. Mr. Malone's mistakes were applauded by local, state, and national recognition, building up his reputation of being too insanely popular to be questioned of his failures in meeting the needs of his students best interest. Moving forward, parents are now asking: What good for our student's future education can come from what is learned about these past years of harmful illusions of excellent with distinction? What improvements do our current state standards offer and how can we hold local school leaders accountable? If kids aren't getting the quality education that taxpayers are so generously funding, why is the former high school principal campaigning for school board election to gain control of the children's first budget, so that the re-emphasis on the increased dollar value of the union teacher in every classroom, can be re-instated?
#27238 Sep 8, 2013
Perhaps Springboro Families and Taxpaying homeowners should ask school board candidate, Ron Malone, to please explain why so many graduates of Springboro's Excellence with Distinction end up having to be forced to take college remedial classes, particularly in basic math functions?
#27239 Sep 8, 2013
Could it be -
The type of education is the current problem. That must be solved before ways of funding it can be analyzed. In the most simplified form, teaching and the responsibility of education must shift back to the parents and away from government, particularly at the state and federal level. The collective summation of all a community’s children thrown into a big pot of stew while the parents run around doing whatever they feel like as community funded baby sitters take care of their offspring is not working. The parents get lazy because public teachers are raising their kids. Teachers get lazy at their jobs because there are no measurements of quality to keep their job. They get paid pretty much the same whether they are good or bad teachers because their collective bargaining agreement says so, an agreement that robs money from every home in a school district for a system that is a complete failure.
#27240 Sep 9, 2013
Inquiring minds must question the principles of the collective three school board candidates, Malone.Stuckey.Anderson, and get the message out that this threesome seek to reverse the successful direction in which our schools are headed, way beyond the November 2013 popularity contest at the polls. Inquiring minds must remember that Mr. Malone refused to "do it for the children" in March 2012 when he refused to accept a job promotion (with increased responsibilities) that would allow him to utilize his 40 years of educational expertise, to the benefit of all our students.
Mr. Malone chose the bottom line of gaining control of the Board of Education agenda by organizing Principal Ron's Kids community-wide March 2012 rally to "re-instate Ron Malone." Mr. Malone's self-interest priority, as high school principal, was to continue enjoying his popularity within the high school community. Isn't this November 2013 bid for school board election just a continuation of his good old "high school days?" And don't Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners demand much more in return for our investment in our students' quality classroom education for the 21st century?
#27241 Sep 9, 2013
Thank you so much for posting this insightful Malone quote.
Ron Malone has never been a school superintendent, but do you know the key difference between Ron Malone and former superintendent Dr. David Baker?
Baker is manipulative, egotistical, and very closely adheres to jaded agendas.
Malone very closely adheres to jaded agendas.
#27242 Sep 9, 2013
Why would our Springboro citizens even consider voting for school board candidates,(Malone/Stuckey/And erson) who are deeply embedded in the old school training of the Ohio School Board Association indoctrination, Promoting a continuous stream of new levies; Hiring more union teachers to provide more fun classes at taxpayers' expense; and then emotionally Blackmailing parents with threats of SEA strike, if levies don't pass to increase the generous salaries and compensation/benefits package afforded our school district teachers and staff?
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