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CYCLISTS ACCIDENT: Car accident hits group of cyclists in Draper

There are 27 comments on the Fox13Now story from Jul 14, 2010, titled CYCLISTS ACCIDENT: Car accident hits group of cyclists in Draper. In it, Fox13Now reports that:

A woman is critically injured this morning after a car accident hit a group of cyclists in Draper.

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Kenmore, WA

#22 Jul 15, 2010
That being said, Im sorry for the family and their loss, but this was avoidable and never should have happened.

Dallas, TX

#23 Jul 15, 2010
Keep cyclists off the roads.

Laguna Niguel, CA

#25 Jul 15, 2010
Out here in Southern California, we have a rider killed just about every month. Each time, I post this warning/prediction. The dead cyclists keep coming. There are always a lot of explanations and incriminations and draconian penalties offered up for drivers who get tangled up with cyclists. And the cyclists keep riding and keep dropping...

Bases on results, public roads are neither an appropriate nor intelligent place to ride a bicycle. If sharks were taking out ocean swimmers off the coast of Newport at the rate that cars take out cyclists in Orange County, you would conclude that it is fool hearty to swim in this location... and you would be right.

These sorts of catastrophic accidents happen with regularity not because the drivers are out there trying to hit the cyclists but because bikes and cars are an inherently dangerous combination. One is slow and fragile. The other is quick and carrying from 3,500 to 6,000 pounds or more. Accidents are going to happen and riders are going to get killed.

The only reason why we continue to allow bikes on public roads is that in our desire to achieve some sort of politically correct statement about how bikes and cars should be able to "share the road", we ignore the reality that it just doesn't work. "Share the road" is exactly like "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". In some fantasy world, it sort of makes sense. In the real world, it's a fairy tale... and a lie. It doesn;t work. It only creates misery, chaos and death.

There is a reason why the California Drivers Handbook emphasizes the importance of motorists keeping up with the flow of traffic. Unusual differences in the speed of vehicles operating in close proximity increase the odds of mishaps and multiply their negative consequences. If it is necessary for the safe passage of motorized traffic for drivers to keep up with the flow of traffic which, of course, it is - then it must follow that it is even more essential for cyclists (who are not protected by seat belts, air bags or energy-absorbing crash cages) to also keep up with the flow of traffic. But the very nature of these tiny, fragile, slow moving (and even slower accelerating) vehicles make this impossible.

If a motorist operated his or her vehicle in the same manner as the average, responsible cyclist (let alone the numerous reckless and lawless ones), he or she could be cited for CVC Section 22400(a) minimum speed, impeding normal flow of traffic and rightly so.

The bottom line here is that it is physically impossible for cyclists not to impede the normal flow of traffic and that fact alone should have long ago been recognized and dealt with.

Share-the-roadies argue that it is possible for two radically different types of vehicles to safely operate under fundamentally different sets of rules in the same physical space. However, based on both logic and results, this position is a triumph of fantasy over reality.

If you want to spend some public money to build bikes-only paths or courses, fine with me. But for the sake of the next LA or OC bike rider that otherwise will be killed in about a month or so, let's give up this politically correct fantasy about cars and bicycles sharing the road. It doesn't work, period.

Boynton Beach, FL

#27 Jul 16, 2010
In Car vs Bike, the car always wins...

United States

#30 Jul 18, 2010
They should not be allowed on the roads because it is not safe. If it was safe then that is another story. How dare you bicycles be on the road on put the drivers of automobiles in danger of being prosecuted when one of them hits you! It is going to happen from time to time. They should not be allowed on the road. Bicycles are so arrogant too: they think they own the road because they are a bicycle. I'm sorry that someone got hurt, but it was their own fault by being on the road with 4000 pound automobiles going 60mph.

United States

#31 Jul 18, 2010
Windfall: Excellent Statement.
Opus the Poet

Plano, TX

#32 Jul 20, 2010
The bicycle I ride now isn't arrogant, now the one I used to ride, she was a bit arrogant... As to which mode is dangerous, and which isn't, motor vehicles have killed an average of 40,000 people a year in the US for the last decade in spite of regulations that require a vehicle to be capable of hitting a concrete wall at 35 MPH and allowing the doors to be opened and the occupants to walk away from the wreck. Bicycles by comparison killed an average of 5 people a year for the last decade. There were more people killed by motor vehicles on the SIDEWALKS in NYC than were killed by bicycles in the entire US.

There are 2 classes of vehicles in this discussion, one of which is permitted on the roads with revocable permission, requires education and licensing, and still kills more people under 35 than any other thing, and kills more children than all other causes combined. The other is bicycles, which have a right to the road that extends back to before the 20th century as recognised by the SCOTUS in 1898, which is known to be a factor in preventing diabetes, heart disease, and obesity and diseases related to obesity, and which unlike the other mode creates no pollution at the vehicle. Se why even discuss banning bicycles?

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