Mormon vs Mormon Smack Down

[my two cents]

catfish59 wrote:

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I'm fine. Ryans vouchers for healthcare is dangerous for everybody
Under Obama healthcare plan I will never have to worry about losing my home if I get seriously ill. The new health care plan will insure I won't havt to decide to pay my bills and eat or get my medication.
I'm very lucky I only take an asprin a day and cholestrol pill last time my number was 200. I wanted the doctor to recheck it cause I have never has high cholestrol. Wisdom never ask a senior how is thier heath, We will tell you ALL about it.
I'm lucky I also have a part-time job. Some of my senior friends are not doing as well as I am and they are scared to death of Ryans health care medicare.
They should be.

How much will Obamacare cost each person? Is it a percentage of what you make or a flat rate? Are there copays on doctor visits and /or prescriptions? how much? Is there a limit on how much you can use? Has anyone read the 2500 pages?

[repubnolonger]

People have lost their lives in Wisconson i think we should take a break from these posts out of respect.....we can do this anytime...

[well]

Mittens is likely guilty of voter fraud, by living in California (or perhaps New Hampshire), owning no property in Massachusetts, yet voting in the 2010 election by claiming he "resided" in his son's unfinished basement. He's denied it, and though I'm not a Massachusetts political junkie and therefore know few details about how he's managed to fend off the charges of voter fraud.

The tax returns, along with showing just how unethically and unpatriotically clever he's been in sheltering his Rmillions from Uncle Sam and the IRS, will also prove that he resided legally in California when he trundled his rich ass back to MA to cast an illegal vote for Scott Brown.

Mittens: one of the very small number of Americans who actually did commit voter fraud. If I'm not mistaken, the form of fraud he committed in Massachusetts is a felony.

Releasing his tax forms would prove he committed felonious voter fraud. That's my thinking.

That's why he won't release them, and that's why we need to keep hounding him about it. We also need to accuse him of voter fraud, using the info above, and keep after him to disprove the allegation by releasing his tax returns.

It's a win all around for us. If he doesn't release the forms, we hammer him as an alleged criminal who's hiding the proof of his crime. The evidence against him is strong enough as it stands to make the claim. If he does release the forms, not only will they likely prove he committed felony voter fraud, but they also show the plethora of heinous financial acts he's committed to hide his millions away.

I haven't seen the one (partial) set of federal tax returns he has released, but Romney did claim he was living in his son's Belmont, MA man cave during 2010.(He did buy a mansion in Belmont six months after he voted there. He redacted his address on his public version of his federal tax form, so we don't know if he claimed his son's basement or the house he didn't yet own as his residence.) The proof of Romney's perfidy won't be found on Page 1 of his tax forms. He hasn't released his state tax forms yet, so we're unable to confirm or debunk the allegation from those returns. But once we have enough of the returns, better minds than I can pore through them and trace his real residence.

Our job: press the meme home. Romney is almost certainly a tax cheat, and almost certainly one of the only Americans to have actually committed voter fraud. Rinse and repeat.

This man is nothing but a FRAUD.

[well]

Mitt Romney needs to release more years of tax returns top GOP strategist Ed Rollins said on Fox News on Sunday morning.

"I think at this point of time it's going to dog him all the way and he needs to get it behind him," Rollins said. "I think he needs to release more taxes. Absolutely."

Rollins, who managed the presidential campaigns of Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) and President Ronald Reagan, said he would have released records from “five or six years" much sooner.

"Two years is not enough, obviously."

"They gave 23 years of tax returns John McCain campaign, they've given one year of tax returns to the American people," top Obama adviser David Axelrod said earlier on the program. "It was Gov. Romney's father who pioneered the release of tax returns when he ran for president because he said one year can be misleading. Why don't they just put this to rest? Why is he hiding?"

Rollins is the latest Republican to suggest Romney should put out more years of tax returns and get past the issue. Others include former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R), Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol and conservative columnist George Will.

What's moots hiding?

[my two cents]

my two cents wrote:

<quoted text>How much will Obamacare cost each person? Is it a percentage of what you make or a flat rate? Are there copays on doctor visits and /or prescriptions? how much? Is there a limit on how much you can use? Has anyone read the 2500 pages?

Anybody?

[repubnolonger]

2.For people who can't afford health insurance, the Federal government will pay the states to add them to Medicaid. The income requirement is expanded up to 133% of the Federal poverty level - roughly $29,000 for a family of four.
3.Those who don't qualify for the expanded Medicaid will receive tax credits if their income is below 400% of the poverty level ($88,000 for a family of four). States will be required to set up insurance exchanges to make it easier to shop for private health insurance coverage.
4.Insurance companies cannot deny children coverage for pre-existing conditions. This benefit applies to everyone in 2014. Insurance companies can no longer drop anyone from coverage once they get sick. If a company denies someone coverage, that person can go to an external appeals process.
5.Parents can put their children up to age 26 on their health insurance plans. This will bring more profit for health insurance companies, since they will receive more premiums without higher costs for these healthier individuals. As of 2012, more than three million previously uninsured young people were added.(Source: Department of Health and Human Services)
6.The Medicare "donut hole" gap in coverage will be eliminated by 2020.
7.People with existing health insurance will keep it. Businesses prefer to offer a tax-free benefit like health insurance to attract good workers. That won't change under Obamacare.
8.Obamacare does not apply to businesses with less than 50 employees. Larger businesses are required to offer health insurance, but receive tax credits to help employees pay premiums. In 2014, the tax credit increases to 50

[repubnolonger]

The difference between Romney Care and Obama Care....Romney plan is for the "RICH" at heart....Obama Care is for the poor/middle class...

[repubnolonger]

The former Massachusetts governor has come under fire from Democrats for failing to embrace one of the most popular provisions of the president’s plan, which prohibits insurance companies from discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions.

During a question-and-answer session with voters in Ohio in late February, Romney said that he would support a federal law that would prevent insurance companies from dropping patients who become sick, but then offered a different definition of “pre-existing conditions coverage.”

“I want to make sure that at the federal level we have a law that says the insurance company can’t drop you from coverage if someone gets sick in your family or if you get sick,” he told the audience in Ohio.“I also want to make sure that someone who’s been continuously insured and becomes ill, if they change jobs or lose a job can’t be denied coverage. That’s the so-called preexisting coverage provision.”

On Thursday, he did not mention the “continuously insured” requirement of his plan when announcing that as president he would make sure “that those people who have pre-existing conditions know that they will be able to be insured and they will not lose their insurance.” The Romney campaign said there had been no shift in his policies.
IF YOU LOSE YOUR JOB... LOST YOUR INSURANCE AND HAD A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION LIKE CANCER, HEART CONDITION ETC.....YOU WILL NOT BE COVERED BY ANOTHER INSURANCE COMPANY.....YOU ARE OWN YOUR OWN...DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE...ANOTHER WAY TO HELP THE WEALTHY INSURANCE COMPANIES...GUESS WHOS IN HIS POCKET....ITS NOT YOU!!!!!!

[well]

Individual Retirement Accounts were designed as a tax-free way for middle-class Americans to plan for their retirement.

The annual contribution limit is $6,000, but somehow Mitt Romney managed to to build his IRA into a $100+ million treasure chest.

How is he getting away with cheating?

loopholes may b. Show us the loopholes moots. If u have nothing to hide.

[well]

There’s been plenty of speculation as to why Mitt Romney has refused to release his back tax returns.

• Do they state he was CEO of Bain Capital after 1999, like Romney claims he was not?

• Do they show Romney participated in IRS amnesty for Swiss bank account tax evaders in 2009?

• Do they show Romney paid less, as a percentage of his income, than the average American bus driver going back years?

Romney has remained steadfast in his refusal to release the returns despite all of these questions.

He says he has released 2010&#8242;s incomplete and an incomplete return for 2011.

[Tomato Pudding]

When I joined the Tea Party, I hoped we would have a good candidate.

If Romney doesn't release his tax returns, he will lose.

I like Michelle Bachman too. Then I found out that she took over $250,000 in government hand-outs for her farm operation.

I'm so disappointed. Why didn't we get a candidate that would show the people what they wanted. It looks so bad.

I'm not voting. I am done. Romney is just a rich cookie cutter trying to get away with something.

[my two cents]

well wrote:

Individual Retirement Accounts were designed as a tax-free way for middle-class Americans to plan for their retirement.
The annual contribution limit is $6,000, but somehow Mitt Romney managed to to build his IRA into a $100+ million treasure chest.
How is he getting away with cheating?
loopholes may b. Show us the loopholes moots. If u have nothing to hide.

Maybe Romney rolled over his 401K from where he worked.

[repubnolonger]

Maybe someone rolled him over and stuck his 401k up his azz, cause this money SMELLS OF CRAP...JUST LIKE YOUR TEA PARTY BUTT KISSING LIPS.....

[my two cents]

repubnolonger wrote:

Maybe someone rolled him over and stuck his 401k up his azz, cause this money SMELLS OF CRAP...JUST LIKE YOUR TEA PARTY BUTT KISSING LIPS.....

Why are you so worried abut his money? hy reou not complaining about Obama wasting YOUR money(that is, if you pay taxes)? How about G.E? NO corporate taxes for 2011 eve though they made billins in profit.

[repubnolonger]

GE and Romney...two in the same...time to change the wealty ripping off AMERICANS...we must and will take over the House and senate...the loop holes must be closed....thanks for SHOWING HOW THE TWO ARE ALIKE....Last i heard GE wasnt running for president...

[my two cents]

repubnolonger wrote:

GE and Romney...two in the same...time to change the wealty ripping off AMERICANS...we must and will take over the House and senate...the loop holes must be closed....thanks for SHOWING HOW THE TWO ARE ALIKE....Last i heard GE wasnt running for president...

YOU are correct!!! G.E. isn't running for president but ceo Jeffrey Immelt is running WITH the president as his job czar.

[repubnolonger]

Good i hope Obama gives him a bigger tax break...write another check Jeffery.....