Display some driver courtesy to our elk

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Estes Park is "Elk Town USA" and every September and October the elk take over Estes Park and Rocky Mountain National Park.
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Estes is not Disneyland

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Bill Melton - what a load of elk duds you spew in your letter!
Estes Park is NOT "Elk Town USA", it is a community between a National Park and USFS land where elk congregate because there are no predators (i.e., no hunting). Many of us liken the masses of these semi-tame ungulates wandering freely through town as the equivalent of a herd of cattle let loose by a neighbor who left this gate open. They are to be nuisance to be endured. Elk that charge people walking on the streets, walking to work, for exercise or walking their dogs, or merely while out in their yards – those elk should be shot. There will be plenty more bulls to impregnate the cows after the ones that are aggressive towards people are put down.

I don’t condone injuring elk “for fun”, and those who speed through herds or at individual animals are jerks. But a few more cars driving slowly through herds with horns blaring might, just might, get some of these dim-witted beasts realizing that being on and close to roads and humans may not be such a good idea.

Enjoy your la-la land, sir, but realize not everyone lives in it!“Elk time in Estes Park” indeed! Grow up, Bill!
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Estes is not Disneyland wrote:
Bill Melton - what a load of elk duds you spew in your letter!
Estes Park is NOT "Elk Town USA", it is a community between a National Park and USFS land where elk congregate because there are no predators (i.e., no hunting). Many of us liken the masses of these semi-tame ungulates wandering freely through town as the equivalent of a herd of cattle let loose by a neighbor who left this gate open. They are to be nuisance to be endured. Elk that charge people walking on the streets, walking to work, for exercise or walking their dogs, or merely while out in their yards – those elk should be shot. There will be plenty more bulls to impregnate the cows after the ones that are aggressive towards people are put down.
I don’t condone injuring elk “for fun”, and those who speed through herds or at individual animals are jerks. But a few more cars driving slowly through herds with horns blaring might, just might, get some of these dim-witted beasts realizing that being on and close to roads and humans may not be such a good idea.
Enjoy your la-la land, sir, but realize not everyone lives in it!“Elk time in Estes Park” indeed! Grow up, Bill!
Stay in D.C. I would rather associate with Elk than anyone from D.C. Elk, nuisance? The animals are pure joy compared to the out of town visitors!
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I did not come here to die. Some of us have actual jobs, and actual appointments and time schedules that must be met. When some moron stops in the middle of the road to look at an elk of the side of the road, and then the idiot coming from the other direction does the same thing because he is a lemming rather than a human, what am I supposed to tell the person who is paying me $200 an hour - Oh, I'm sorry, I live in a town of imbeciles, who act like they have never seen a living creature except in a zoo.

If you want to hold up traffic because you are an idiot, buy a zoo. Otherwise, get the hell out of the way.
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Estes Park, CO

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This is a road. I have some tolerance for delays due to accidents caused by humans, and by bicyclists hogging more than their fair share, because the consequences of not respecting this are jail time. However, I have no patience for tourists who park in the middle of the road to gawk. If I stopped on Colfax and got out of my car just to look at hookers, I would be arrested. Here, you are treated like royalty if you disobey traffic laws and common sense to take photographs of something that should be photographed in the park and can be photographed in the park. Pay your $20 or let me ease you into the Big Thompson River. Retired people suck.
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Fort Collins, CO

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Oct 22, 2012
 
Straight Shooter wrote:
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Stay in D.C. I would rather associate with Elk than anyone from D.C. Elk, nuisance? The animals are pure joy compared to the out of town visitors!
Another mouth-breather who can't quite grasp the concept that the ISP location that T@pix reports has absolutely no bearing on where a person is posting from or lives.
Ol Geezer

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Oct 22, 2012
 
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This is a road. I have some tolerance for delays due to accidents caused by humans, and by bicyclists hogging more than their fair share, because the consequences of not respecting this are jail time. However, I have no patience for tourists who park in the middle of the road to gawk. If I stopped on Colfax and got out of my car just to look at hookers, I would be arrested. Here, you are treated like royalty if you disobey traffic laws and common sense to take photographs of something that should be photographed in the park and can be photographed in the park. Pay your $20 or let me ease you into the Big Thompson River. Retired people suck.
While I agree with you I have one question----What the hell do retired people have to do with it? Once "Stupid Season" is over, you don't see Elk Jams. The problem is with tourist, the people who take their darling little ones on a two week adventure away from the big city. Yes it is a problem. Maybe our local police department should start issuing citations to those who block the roads and cause these traffic jams.
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Ol Geezer wrote:
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While I agree with you I have one question----What the hell do retired people have to do with it? Once "Stupid Season" is over, you don't see Elk Jams. The problem is with tourist, the people who take their darling little ones on a two week adventure away from the big city. Yes it is a problem. Maybe our local police department should start issuing citations to those who block the roads and cause these traffic jams.
Most retired people drive like blue haired rolling road bocks. They are worse all year round than the elk and tourists. They pull-ou in front of you (when nothing is behind you) then drive 25mph in a 45mph zone. Then turn signals are an option and they come to a complete stop to turn when you do not know they are turning since they do not use turn signals. They say with age comes wisdom but not when it comes to driving.
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People need not forget that we invade their space, they don't invade ours. As a new resident to the area I love seeing the wildlife and is one of the big reasons I moved here. Don't hurt our wildlife! Drive slow and wait for them to move. Enjoy the fact that you are lucky to see them.
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And try not to shoot video of them mating. How would you like it if they did that to you?
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Oct 22, 2012
 
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Most retired people drive like blue haired rolling road bocks. They are worse all year round than the elk and tourists. They pull-ou in front of you (when nothing is behind you) then drive 25mph in a 45mph zone. Then turn signals are an option and they come to a complete stop to turn when you do not know they are turning since they do not use turn signals. They say with age comes wisdom but not when it comes to driving.
Apparently you've never been around the punks in their lowered Subaru's and Honda's. Or are you one of them? They drive just the opposite. Like maniacs. Also the young girls whose mommies buy them new cars before they learn to drive. Enough said.
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New to the area wrote:
People need not forget that we invade their space, they don't invade ours. As a new resident to the area I love seeing the wildlife and is one of the big reasons I moved here. Don't hurt our wildlife! Drive slow and wait for them to move. Enjoy the fact that you are lucky to see them.
How about some wolves (you invaded their space) or some free-ranging buffalo (you invaded their space). And, of course you'll have no problem with a mountain lion eating your pets, or maybe your kid (after all, you invaded their space). And I'm sure you'll be the first to "tsk tsk" a neighbor who gets trampled by a cow elk in spring - you'll be the type to blame the person for upsetting the elk.
My comment to Melton applies to you, too - Grow up!! Estes is not Disneyland!
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If people are to dumb to use common sense around wild animals, that is their own problem. I am not dumb enough to get close or let my kids get close to a wild animal. You are right, Estes Park is not disneyland. And the land is theirs, (they were here first)..living up here you take the risk of an encounter.
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honestly, I think you are mean and clueless yourself. Idea-lets drive all the wildlife out of estes so you don't run late to work or get trampled by a cow or ur dog doesn't get eaten by a mountain lion. Would that make you happier??
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Oct 23, 2012
 
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honestly, I think you are mean and clueless yourself. Idea-lets drive all the wildlife out of estes so you don't run late to work or get trampled by a cow or ur dog doesn't get eaten by a mountain lion. Would that make you happier??
No, how about COEXIST? Live WITH the animals, but don't live our lives be DOMINATED by the animals, or letting the animals define what we can do or when we can do it.

Your wide-eyed ignorance is astounding. Just what Estes needed - another Pollyanna who uses the sophomoric "they were here first" phrase, but who hasn't a clue about the natural ecological balance that is SO out of whack here in the Estes Valley (no predators to keep elk numbers in check and the herds moving). Tell us, have you bought your idiotic "just another day in paradise" bumper sticker yet?
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Oct 23, 2012
 
you live in FT. collins, so why is it such a big issue to you? My ignorance huh? you know nothing about me, I am for shooting nuisance elk. I am concerned about people getting hurt..But people driving reckless through the herds was the issue.
And I stated my opinion and received an ignorant response that had nothing to do with the drivers. Do you just like to argue with people? Are you having a bad day? If so I hope it gets better .
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The ISP address has nothing to do with how stupid you are. You are all stupid, regardless of what free wireless connection you use. The initial point was to love the elk and try to find a way for science to allow people like Bill Melt On to mate with the elk, who were here first but replaced the dinosaurs who were here before them. Bill Melt On wants to have elk babies that he can suckle. And he definitely does suckle. Retired people have more time to write letters than they do to relearn how to drive. Sometimes I think they are writing letters while they are driving. They were here first, but they also have no natural predators, except angry elk that haven't been suckled.
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Screw you wrote:
I did not come here to die. Some of us have actual jobs, and actual appointments and time schedules that must be met. When some moron stops in the middle of the road to look at an elk of the side of the road, and then the idiot coming from the other direction does the same thing because he is a lemming rather than a human, what am I supposed to tell the person who is paying me $200 an hour - Oh, I'm sorry, I live in a town of imbeciles, who act like they have never seen a living creature except in a zoo.
If you want to hold up traffic because you are an idiot, buy a zoo. Otherwise, get the hell out of the way.
I agree with you, people stopping in the middle of the road are a hassle.-people need to learn to pull off the road to take pictures..just yesterday the car in front of me slammed on the brakes to take a picture..and remained in the middle of the road..HELLO>>>Wheres the common sense...it is a road, not a parking lot.
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was recently arrested for elk molestation and copper wire embezzlement
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Dec 22, 2012
 
Bill are you all snuggled down all warm in your elk duds bed waiting to be licked on the face by Father Elkmass? Youa horney batsard.

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