Estes Park police, CBI investigating shooting death

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Estes Park Police, with the assistance of the Colorado Bureau of Investigation , are investigating the Dec.

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S Mathes

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Not something you expect to hear about in Estes Park.
Have you

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S Mathes wrote:
Not something you expect to hear about in Estes Park.
looked beyond the bright lights and cute/quaint storefronts? The "population" of Estes has changed drastically.
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Exactly, there are still a lot of sister lovers out there in hiding.
So where

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is the update on this story of 4 days ago? EP residents have a right to know ALL the news not just what the regimes want to feed us. In light of the Conn massacre, etc. it is the duty of law enforcement to keep the community abreast of what is going on with this shooting and not brush it under the rug.
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It's important to realize in this tragedy, there is a family (or families) hurting and waiting for unanswered questions. It is a shock that a shooting death occurred in Estes Park, but the integrity of the investigation is important for the victim and family involved to give the answers and closure that may be hard to accept once determined.
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Dec 15, 2012
 
Another View wrote:
It's important to realize in this tragedy, there is a family (or families) hurting and waiting for unanswered questions. It is a shock that a shooting death occurred in Estes Park, but the integrity of the investigation is important for the victim and family involved to give the answers and closure that may be hard to accept once determined.
Let's not let the cat out of the bag, right? We would hate for tourists and visitors to see that Estes Park is like any other town and not a "Goody Two Shoes Community" that at least one of the local papers projects us to be.
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Dec 15, 2012
 
The reason there is no follow up on this is not to protect the families, it is because none of the local papers has any staff that works on the weekends. What about protecting the community if a killer is still at large?Or has the town already paternalistically decided we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads about it? Three more weeks until the winter festival. I sure hope there is good chili.
The needs of the many

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Dec 16, 2012
 
Another View wrote:
It's important to realize in this tragedy, there is a family (or families) hurting and waiting for unanswered questions. It is a shock that a shooting death occurred in Estes Park, but the integrity of the investigation is important for the victim and family involved to give the answers and closure that may be hard to accept once determined.
outweigh the needs of the few. It's bee 6 days now and no word from the Estes Park Police Dept. as to any detail like is the shooter at large? Not asking for grizzley details but enough to know if our children and adults in this community are safe.
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Dec 16, 2012
 
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to Connecticut if you even marginally think this is ever going to happen, because it ain't never going to happen.
This will never appear in the happy-go-lucky paper, and the other paper will place it after the furniture advertising insert.
They could kill 100 people all up in here with machetes in one night and the town medai would still be promoting the winter festival on the front page.
love to move to CT but I can't right now however I see what you mean. There are things that currently happen at the Estes Park Schools that would curl your hair but you will never know about it. Even with a CB the police changed the way information goes out so unless we buy a $700.00+ monitor we live in the vacumn of the EP News and the Trail Gazette. Some of us can't even get channel 8 if we have Direc TV or Dish not that channel 8 would give any info either. The way I get info on EP is by reading the Longmont or Loveland newspaper. Sad commentary on EP.
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to complain.
When are words going to be replaced with action?
When are we going to demand that our pretend newspapers get out of bed with our local pretend government?
When are we going to demand that our tax money be used to educate and inform rather than snowjob us and leave us in the dark?
Tell the companies that advertise in these crap rags that you are going to stop doing business with them until they withdraw their advertising.
Talk is cheap. Until these whiners are prepared to do this, this is all posturing.
Until you stop attending the crap festivals the town foists on us, they will keep behaving exactly the same way.
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It is easy wrote:
to complain.
When are words going to be replaced with action?
When are we going to demand that our pretend newspapers get out of bed with our local pretend government?
When are we going to demand that our tax money be used to educate and inform rather than snowjob us and leave us in the dark?
Tell the companies that advertise in these crap rags that you are going to stop doing business with them until they withdraw their advertising.
Talk is cheap. Until these whiners are prepared to do this, this is all posturing.
Until you stop attending the crap festivals the town foists on us, they will keep behaving exactly the same way.
with you but how much impact will one person or family have on loss of revenue for the crap festivals? Too many tourists like crap festivals and all the other quaint little gigs Park puts on.
I disagree with you that "whining" gets you no where. By being able to achieve avoice through the Trail comment section we can at least begin a dialogue about the problems and possibly gain strngth in numbers to do something about the substandard services we receive. By the way. What have you done beside blogging?
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Dec 16, 2012
 
Are you indicating that you are going to the winter festival?

Doesn't this just prove my point?

Stop trying to draw me out. Actions not words.
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Dec 16, 2012
 
What wrote:
Are you indicating that you are going to the winter festival?
Doesn't this just prove my point?
Stop trying to draw me out. Actions not words.
to draw you out. That would defeat the purpose of this blog. What I was saying is you are calling for action so I asked in good faith what you have done beside blogging and finger pointing. What would you suggest we do? What action have you taken that may work for us?
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Dec 16, 2012
 
about the suicide that occurred about 2 weeks or so ago?(a suicide while children where in the house) No obituary, no news, nothing. It's as if the young woman fell of the face of the planet.
Where is the news

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Dec 16, 2012
 
of the disappearance of JustSayinEP? He seemed to be so healthy and young. Perhaps all the VD finally brought him down. I'm sure all his widowed sisters will miss him, as well as the income he provided from shoveling manure into the back of his pants on a contract basis.
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Here I is. I just got outa a 14-hour long orgie with my two sisters and another sister that was visiting from outa town. And when I say sisters I don't mean the black kind, although they all are because of the viciuos inbreeding and their skin turning all charry from the kiln accident. Whooowee that was some good lovin we all got through haven, and I hope there will be lots of babies come from that sesion.
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Dec 16, 2012
 
What wrote:
Are you indicating that you are going to the winter festival?
Doesn't this just prove my point?

Stop trying to draw me out. Actions not words.
How surprising. Yousay take action but when called on the carpet to ask how and what you have done yo are silent. Never been to the Winter Festival but is that really the point...no. Just a distraction fom you answering my question.
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As of right now, they are calling it a suicide, that may change come monday or Tuesday after results of the CBI investigation is complete and turned over to the Police Dept. here, the ALLEGED shooter is known, and is not in custody because it is still considered a suicide, once the PD gets all the results, there will be a discussion with the Larimer County DA to see if any criminal charges are warranted.At that point hopefully the PD will update the desrving public to put fears and concerns to rest.
It has taken too long and it is unfair of the PD not to put out at least a little more info to calm people sooner.
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Estes Park is not the only place that has changed the frequencies that EMS personnel use. There are smart phone apps that allow you to access the radio traffic of Police, fire and so on.

As to the embargo of information: Maybe too many people watch all of the incarnations of CSI on TV and think that the case will be wrapped up before they drag their ample posterior off the couch to grab a snack before the next show starts. Outside investigators are called in on a case like this. It takes time to officially determine what happened and release the news to the press.

In case some of you have not noticed this story ran on the Trail-Gazette website. They have people that update stories of interest(Fern Lake fire) on the weekends. Obituary information is printed only if the family allows it. If indeed this was a suicide and IF there were any underage people involved, you have a whole new set of rules that are to be followed. If this was your family member would you like any paper to run with unconfirmed or false information? The brother of the murderer in Connecticut was initially named as the killer because his ID was found on his brothers body.

I do not agree with everything either paper does. Unfortunately the police dept. only releases the incidents involving police or EMS contact that they deem newsworthy or of interest. Often an incident happens in unincorporated areas of the county. As a result the county must be contacted for further information.

Regarding the "crap festivals" in this town. Many businesses rely on the traffic generated by these festivals. I agree 100% that the PD should update this story if there are any updates. If this had been a drive by or a robbery and murder scenario I know that the PD would have been making people aware of the situation and offering help if needed.

Finally. You can look at Town of Estes Park's website and see videos of Town Board meetings. And you can always look at the minutes of ALL meetings. And no I don't work as a P.R. flak for the Town or any other public agency with a vested interest. Just a little tired of the garbage that people hurl around based on rumors and worded in a way that leads people to believe that you really don't know what you're talking about.
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Dec 16, 2012
 
it upon yourself to serve as a volunteer rectum through which all information passes.

You can certainly make excuses with the best of them. Clearly you work in some town government position.

Regardless of what you spew, the fact is that the planning commission meeting minutes are not at all useful for breaking news stories.

And it has been six days since someone went belly up in this town, and there has been no updates.
I don't care if the case is solved, I would just like this town to behave like a town that actually has taxpayer-paid positions responsive to taxpayer concerns.

Because if the only updates are coming from the unverified comments section, including your sorry ass, something is desprately wrong.

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