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Dog's death has Dracut owner questioning safety of rabies vaccine

There are 108 comments on the Lowell Sun story from May 27, 2008, titled Dog's death has Dracut owner questioning safety of rabies vaccine. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Massachusetts requires all dogs to be vaccinated for rabies on a yearly basis, but Joann Camilli is not sure she'll ever do it again.

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Lowering the Bar

Lowell, MA

#23 May 28, 2008
Better Dog,
Saying 'my pet never goes outside' isnt crap as you so eloquently put it. I live on an upper floor of a multiunit building. My cat has been outside of the building exactly 3 times in 16 plus years, each time in a cat carrier while being transported to the vet. I dont have any kids or guns. Why on earth would I want to get a rabies shot for the cat?.
From what I've been reading, rabies vaccinations at this late point in a pets life could cause more harm than good. It seems the the issue isnt as cut and dried as 'rabies shot every year' after all.
joe - chelmsford

Berlin, CT

#24 May 28, 2008
lowering the bar - so what happens if your "indoor" pet gets outside and comes in contact with a potential health hazard or you get a bat in your home? Have worked at vet hospitals and have seen it happen. Tough to lose your pet due to your stupidity. IT'S THE LAW!!!Not to mention you are putting you and your family at risk or rabies as well.
Lowering the Bar

Lowell, MA

#25 May 28, 2008
Joe,
I understand your point, in theory, about coming in contact with other animals. But when was the last time you heard of a rabid bat in some ones home biting a dog or cat? I know its possible, but I've never heard of it actually happening. As far as my cat getting outside, she'd have to escape my condo, then open 3 fire doors to make it to the ground level, then open the door to the outside.
If I ever moved to a single family house, or any home with more direct access to the outdoors, I'd start getting her rabies shots.
Yes, its the law...but I'm just being realistic about my specific situation.
Diane

New York, NY

#26 May 28, 2008
Vaccinosis is a real problem. There is a rabies challenge study going on right now - funded by PET OWNERS - who are fed up with the laws requiring them to knowingly harm their pets. I mean would you really expect a drug company to fund a study that would prove that you need LESS of its product??!!

It is already known that immunity from the rabies vaccine lasts for at least 7 years and probably for life. This study is being run though, in order to meet strict requirements so that it can be used in order to actually change laws.

If anyone wishes to find out more about this study or contribute to this worthy cause go to www.rabieschallengefund.org .

To find out the truth about vaccines and just how harmful they really are (and how over-done they also are), go to www.truthaboutvaccines.org
Daisy

Middletown, NY

#27 May 28, 2008
Michelle,

It says on every vaccine insert that they are only to be given to a healthy animal. If your cat was at the vet for a "sick visit" your vet had no business vaccinating it and should be reported for MALPRACTICE!!!! I hope you follow-up on this. Hopefully he or she won't continue to vaccinate sick pets if someone brings it to their attention.
Michelle wrote:
My Beautiful Little cat past away in February. She was seen for a sick visit and on this day she was also given the rabbies vaccine. She was scheduled to have testing done for diabetes and kidney disease. Within 2 days from having the vaccine, she was gone..... Such a devasting thing for my daughters and i to watch her die in front of our eyes. I'm am still mourning her loss.... Pet Owners ought to have the chance to titer-test there pets.
joe - chelmsford

Berlin, CT

#28 May 28, 2008
lowering the bar....within the past year is the last time i know of an indoor cat coming in contact with a bat.
debbie

Sharon, MA

#29 May 28, 2008
The Commonwealth needs to reevaluate rabies vaccines. Vaccines are making many pets deathly ill and in some cases as recently noted, calling out for the government to ammend the existing law to abolish routine vaccines, altogether.

Respect the research of Jean Dodds, DVM & Ron Schultz,DVM. Their findings are credible with extensive studies, illustrating the "harm" in over vaccinating our pets. There are alternatives that could have spared Louie's life.

Recognizing the severity of a rabies outbreak, or placing the public in harms way, it cannot be dismissed, a vaccination is critical for a puppy or young dog, but to <<routinely>> subject a pet to repeated vaccinations is ruining their natural immunity.

Domestic pets come with risks. Fact. But, why compound a health issue for pets that can easily be tested/monitored "humanely and safely" via titering. Please consider making rabies vaccinations the exception, not the norm for healthy domestic pets. Mandate titers, not life threatening rabies injections.

Massachusetts is a progressive state. It would be a step in the right direction, for our local government and health agencies to acknowledge the risk factors to domestic pets, proposing alternatives to the present law.

Louie did not need to die.

Debbie
cindy

Berlin, CT

#30 May 28, 2008
mspc adopted out a dog who was up-to-date on rabies vaccine and it had rabies. this happened in april 2008.
Lowering the Bar

Princeton, MA

#31 May 28, 2008
joe - chelmsford wrote:
lowering the bar....within the past year is the last time i know of an indoor cat coming in contact with a bat.
Joe,
I did a quick google on the subject, and didn't find anything recent. Where and when was the incident that you are referring to?
Lesley Brzozowski

Bristol, CT

#32 May 28, 2008
I do not believe our best friends should be vaccinated EVERY year for rabies when a 3 year shot is given. It is all the same vaccine. Why are we over-vaccinating our animals? They are so full of chemicals and there is so much cancer that we need to start investigating and changing our standards.
These kinds of occurrences are going to discourage people from getting these vaccines for their beloved pets.
Virginia Gosse

Fitchburg, MA

#33 May 28, 2008
After reading this article I am afraid to have my dog vaccinated for rabies. I feel that more testing, and research should be made mandatory concerning this vaccine. Losing your pet can be very traumatic, especially under circumstances such a this.

After learning this, it makes me stop and think twice before vaccinating my dog. I am starting to wonder if this is just a money making procedure, now knowing that this vaccine can last up to seven years.

My heart goes out to this woman, for I am a animal lover, and if I ever lost my dog under such terrible circumstances I would be furious.

Makes you think that it could of been prevented!!!!!
ANOYMOUS

Pepperell, MA

#34 May 28, 2008
Diane wrote:
Vaccinosis is a real problem. There is a rabies challenge study going on right now - funded by PET OWNERS - who are fed up with the laws requiring them to knowingly harm their pets. I mean would you really expect a drug company to fund a study that would prove that you need LESS of its product??!!
It is already known that immunity from the rabies vaccine lasts for at least 7 years and probably for life. This study is being run though, in order to meet strict requirements so that it can be used in order to actually change laws.
If anyone wishes to find out more about this study or contribute to this worthy cause go to www.rabieschallengefund.org .
To find out the truth about vaccines and just how harmful they really are (and how over-done they also are), go to www.truthaboutvaccines.org
I was wondering if you know of a website that could tell us how many domestic animals per year contract rabies ? Another question can I elect to have my dogs rabies done every 7 years ? If their is proof it lasts that long you would think we should be required every 7 years. Your input would be apprecitated.
ANOYMOUS

Pepperell, MA

#35 May 28, 2008
Lesley Brzozowski wrote:
I do not believe our best friends should be vaccinated EVERY year for rabies when a 3 year shot is given. It is all the same vaccine. Why are we over-vaccinating our animals? They are so full of chemicals and there is so much cancer that we need to start investigating and changing our standards.
These kinds of occurrences are going to discourage people from getting these vaccines for their beloved pets.
I always tell the vet to just give my dog distemper and rabies because the state says I have to. If it were up to me I would only do the rabies every 7
Judy

Wakefield, MA

#36 May 28, 2008
So sorry Joann and Larry. I know how much Louie meant to you. He was a Handsome dog with a wonderful disposition. He won many prizes and ribbonns for that, please except our sincere appologies.
Judy & Bob
Lisa

Woodland, CA

#37 May 28, 2008
Better dog,
I'm wondering if you might be a sales rep for the vaccine companies?

There is quite a bit of evidence out there that vaccines, rabies in particular, can be extremely harmful to pets. Dr. Jean Dodds and Dr. Ron Schultz have done extensive research in this area. Perhaps you might want to google their names and educate yourself?

For everyone else, there is currently an ongoing study regarding how long the rabies vaccine provides immunity. For further information, you can go to http://www.rabieschallengefund.com/
Denise

East Hartford, CT

#38 May 28, 2008
Better dog than me wrote:
I am sorry your dog died. But I will gladly take the miniscule risk as opposed to having sick animals running around.
People have no concept of statistics. ONE dog dies as a complication and this woman says "I'm not going to take it anymore". Give me a break! How many sick animals do you want to have running around?
Before you make such a general comment you should do your research, there are thousands of dogs and cats that have died due to rabies complications.Miss Camilli is not asking people to be irresponsible and not vaccinate, she is just saying you should try other means like titer testing before you mindlessly vaccinate. Education is the way...be a leader not a follower.
Lori Demers

Dracut, MA

#39 May 28, 2008
I understand that titer testing needs more research before laws may be changed, Joann has provided her customers with information to donate to further testing. How about publishing the information. Perhaps contirubtions will reduce the reasearh time and save the lives of our pets.
Denise

East Hartford, CT

#40 May 28, 2008
Tony wrote:
I've had many cats and a dog over the years and never had a problem w/vaccinations. I'm not a vet either.
Could there be any other underlying issues like obesity or other illnesses that coupled w/vaccinations could have caused the animal's death? Believe me, I empathise with your loss(es), but find it hard to believe that just the vaccinations caused the death and/or serious illness.
Tony, Yes. sometimes there are underlying issues, but unless you know enough to ask your vet about aditional blood test your vet is required by law to administer the vaccine as long as your pet passes the general physical eyes clear, heart rate normal,normal weight,reflexes normal. Some times there may be a virus or illness your dog is carring you dont know. It is your vets job to inform you. They rarely do, They also rarely inform you of the risks associated with vaccines. I have a vet in my general area that routinely gives several vaccines at once to pets even when the owners say the dogs have had bad reactions. His responce is to pump them up with bena after the vaccine.
Denise

East Hartford, CT

#41 May 28, 2008
Tony wrote:
I've had many cats and a dog over the years and never had a problem w/vaccinations. I'm not a vet either.
Could there be any other underlying issues like obesity or other illnesses that coupled w/vaccinations could have caused the animal's death? Believe me, I empathise with your loss(es), but find it hard to believe that just the vaccinations caused the death and/or serious illness.
Sorrry type-o Its benadryl shots
Denise

East Hartford, CT

#42 May 28, 2008
Better dog than me wrote:
Wow, all these stories are really compelling. Maybe there is something to this.
WAIT A MINUTE!!! Of course there isn't!!
Think about it you simpletons! How many animals get immunized? THAOUSANDS!! And a handful of stories is supposed to mean something? Does anyone here even understand statistics?
Heart wrenching anecdotes are MEANINGLESS in the face of OVERWHELMING evidence that rabies vaccines for domestic pets has a tremendous public health benefit. Screw the pets, I don't want kids to get rabies because they played with the neighbors dog.
And don't give me this "my pet NEVER goes outside" crap. That's like saying it's okay to keep a loaded gun in your nightstand because your children never look there.
STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE.
Just because your opinion is shared by a good number of people, does not make it right.
You don't even have the guts to show your name ...yet your so sure of yourself.Maybe you should try and shead your views in a more possitive way. Instead of telling people thier stupid because they don't see it your way.
There are plenty of stats out there to back this woman up, Maybe if you took your own advise, you might learn something.Just take a look around,"outside of the box of controled thinking you live in",. Your missing the point this is not to vaccinate its to do so responsiable!!!!!!!

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