'Why can't we get the road paved?'

'Why can't we get the road paved?'

There are 60 comments on the Lowell Sun story from May 9, 2010, titled 'Why can't we get the road paved?'. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Anne Schaefer bought her "lovely ranch home" at 1 Independence Drive in 2005. Shortly after moving in, she called Town Hall to report that her street was in "horrendous" condition and needed to be resurfaced.

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Wilmington, MA

#42 May 10, 2010
In neighboring communities "private way" property owners have established an association to collect, invest & disburse funds for costs pertaining to road repair, snow removal, etc. These roads are also posted as such. One last thought, does the Town bill all registered motor vehicle owners an excise tax? It is my understanding that this tax was initiated to defray the cost of road repairs.
Sub Sailor

Billerica, MA

#43 May 10, 2010
Goofy wrote:
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So your saying that it is OK for the town officials to violate state regulations without repurcussions. Regarding your statement of it being considered a private way, any person looking to purchase a home on the road would have to be given disclosure leagally, knowing that who would buy, I wouldn't would you?
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What I'm saying is almost every town in the State of Massachusetts has private roads. Even inside the 128 belt towns have them.

Most of them were built before Planning Boards had oversite of the streets within the sub-division.

When a street wants to be accepted by the town, the town sends out an engineer. He/she evaluate the street for compliance with the standards of accepted streets.

If the engineer finds the street unacceptable, the residents can ask all their neighbors to sign a petition for getting a betterment (not all towns have this option). If all neighbors sign off, which includes giving their fee ownership, the town will either have their engineer or hired engineer to give an estimate of costs and how much each abutter would need to pay or borrow as a betterment.

Another issue is, many residents of private roads won't give up their fee, so the town cannot do anything.

I guess you can relate it to a BMW which comes with a complete warranty for 100,000 miles. BMW isn't a generous company they put the warranty costs into the car price. From looking at the road the builder didn't properly construct the road. Someone got a price break, now because of the shoddy construction the road needs total reconstruction.

Should residents on streets that were properly constructed, for which they paid for when they bought their home, pay for your street, now that doesn't make fiscal or common sense.

BTW there is a school of thought your private road should't even be snow plowed. Most communities iqnore this concept, so be glad Tyngsboro plows your street.
Anthony

Haverhill, MA

#44 May 11, 2010
Is that the same Scott Harrington who is also dating a girl from the Gaelic Club in Lowell? Anne he is cheating on you!
Shannon

Tyngsboro, MA

#45 May 11, 2010
Yeah. The town fills the holes at least twice a year then all of the filled in pavement is gone in a few months by wear.
tyngs too

Whitinsville, MA

#47 May 12, 2010
goofy wrote:
Paraphrased from Massachusetts rules governing subdivisions.
In order to put a road /subdivision in, the developer(s) have to submit plans plus put up monies that are put in an escrow account, this ensures that the road system / infrustucture meets town approval. The money in the escorw will only be released after the planning board signs off on the subdivision, after which the planning board is responsible for the sub division road be put to vote for acceptance. If the planing board failed to fulfill its responsibility then the town officials should accept the burden to solve the issue without affecting services or the tax payers. Why should the people how bought a home in good faith be punished ?
Agree - In my development, town had escrow $ f/ developer, which they errantly gave back to the builder BEFORE he completed the streets in the entire development, therefore he had no reason to come back and finish. IMO the town should not have even allowed the sale of the homes to be completed until the roads were up to par. Neighbors have tried to get abatements and have been denied.
Tyng Parent

AOL

#48 May 12, 2010
tyngs too wrote:
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Agree - In my development, town had escrow $ f/ developer, which they errantly gave back to the builder BEFORE he completed the streets in the entire development, therefore he had no reason to come back and finish. IMO the town should not have even allowed the sale of the homes to be completed until the roads were up to par. Neighbors have tried to get abatements and have been denied.
Imagine those of us who bought our houses without knowing. Over 20 years houses have been bought and sold over and over again. This makes no sense!
Jake

Jamaica Plain, MA

#49 May 12, 2010
Read before you speak wrote:
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That $3-6K pays for police, fire, schools and other government. It does not pay for maintaining private roadways anymore than it pays for maintaining private lawns. Homeowners who live on "accepted" streets paid up front for the cost of having a good road, and pay a little more in property taxes every year. people who bought on the cheap elected to save the money up front and pay for their own road maintenance as the bill came due. Now the bill is due and it would be theft to ask everyone else to pay for what these private road owners already took the money for.
This is absolutely untrue! Tax assessments are not determined by the street you live on nor do folks pay more up front based on the road. If you have evidence to the contrary please provide it. Because I know of no evidence to support your conjecture.
Ron

Tyngsboro, MA

#50 May 12, 2010
Maybe next winter the Town of Tyngsboro wont plow her street to teach "BIGMOUTH" a lesson..Let the snow pile up!
adoptadog

Maynard, MA

#51 May 14, 2010
I love it when people buy houses and then start crying about it. Check before you buy and you wont be suprized.
I live on a private road the town plows and the even patch it for us. Thats all folks. And I wont even whimper.
Anthony

Tyngsboro, MA

#52 May 16, 2010
Anne he lies to you! Ask Scott about his (SIDE) girlfriend!
John

Tyngsboro, MA

#53 Jun 10, 2010
I think the Lowell Sun did a great article on Anne's street..I think they need to do another article about how I saw her at Lowell District Court the other day on Assault and Battery charges!
Chris

Merrimack, NH

#54 Aug 27, 2012
Anne has been arrested twice in July 2012........What a track record
Chris

Merrimack, NH

#55 Aug 27, 2012
Assault and battery DOMESTIC......Intimidation of a witness.......
Anne Catherine Schaefer

Lowell, MA

#56 Jul 10, 2013
Well Thank You For All Your Comments regarding the April 2010 article.
Sorry it took so long to write... sometimes you have to wait for the good stuff
HELLO... Independence Drive , Tyngsboro, Mass. was accepted by the gracious town officials in May of this year 2013. BRAVO.
Goodbye.
What good stuff have you done lately...???

KARMA3
Anne Schaefer

Lowell, MA

#57 Sep 16, 2013
Well, it's been a little over three years since my
Halloween self was in the newspaper. Thanks for your
comments.

Update: Independence Drive is about to be paved.

TSK! TSK!
Anne Schaefer

Lowell, MA

#58 Oct 3, 2013
The Road Is Paved. Come see!!!
My outfit caught the attention. What's your issue???
The internet isn't my daily thing. Some of you...
GET A LIFE!
mitzi

Wilmington, MA

#59 Jan 18, 2016
Big bucks wrote:
Once the town has accepted the roads, the town is responsible for them. That means much more expense than is given from Fed Chapter 90 money, less money for schools, police, and other services unless taxes go up. Know what and where you are buying. Did you see the part about increasing our taxes to pay to get the roads to a point where they can be accepted? All sounds like a good idea and fair and such, but that means your taxes will have to go up, up, up! Good luck.
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I live in Tewksbury ma and loved here for 30 years
They use to plow and salt my road now they wont.I pay same tax as everyone else. My area has alot of paper roads which they have paved but never put them where they are suppose to be.My rd is still in paved but i do have town septic. They wont let me pave it because they own itand my neighbor broke her ankle on the ice out side.WHAT CAN I DO.
mitzi

Wilmington, MA

#60 Jan 18, 2016
Read before you speak wrote:
The law is clear... a road is not jusyt 'unaccepted' it is called a "Private Way." That's right, a private road, that the private road owners are legally responsible to pay for the paving, drainage and upkeep on. People who live on "private ways" have never paid the cost of building a legally acceptable road (a one time expense of about $6000 -$7000) while people on public roads have already paid for it (when they bought the empty lot or when the builder put up the home).
When your private road meets all of the engineering standards for width, drainage, depth, sidewalks, etc., the Towns are always happy to "accept" them because then the Town will receive State money to help maintain them. Right now, the plowing, salting and sanding being done by Tyngsboro on all of those roads is being paid for 'out of pocket' instead of being reimbursed by the State, so all of those private road owners are hurting the school, fire, police, public works and every other municipal budget.
If you live on a private way / unaccepted street, you can file an action in district court (Lowell) to pay for the improvements. Talk to a lawyer but quit whining to the newspaper that the town won't give you something for nothing.
Town wont pave my dirt rd its a dead end not private way there is no sign out there and ive been here for 30 years.They use to plow now they have moved my house if you google my house its on the other side of florida rd in the woods.Hope my house dont burn or need medical because they wont find us.They sjould plow it even ifs at the end of the storm.If my husband has a geart attack do they want me coming after them.Tewksbury is going down hill.
Mazmatrix

Telford, UK

#61 Jan 20, 2016
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Mazmatrix

Telford, UK

#62 Jan 20, 2016
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