'Why can't we get the road paved?'

'Why can't we get the road paved?'

There are 60 comments on the Lowell Sun story from May 9, 2010, titled 'Why can't we get the road paved?'. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Anne Schaefer bought her "lovely ranch home" at 1 Independence Drive in 2005. Shortly after moving in, she called Town Hall to report that her street was in "horrendous" condition and needed to be resurfaced.

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Doormat

Lowell, MA

#1 May 9, 2010
Your a precious Tyng resident, team up and pay for it yourselves.
Jenny

Tyngsboro, MA

#2 May 9, 2010
Check the registry of deeds she bought her house in 2004.... Hello
Mom in the Tyng

Tyngsboro, MA

#3 May 9, 2010
why can't we accept the roads during town meeting now so we can get the federal funds?
good service

Billerica, MA

#4 May 9, 2010
Do your homework when buying property! Otherwise you and your neighbors pay for it same as in Wilmington and all other towns in the state.
Big bucks

Tewksbury, MA

#5 May 9, 2010
Once the town has accepted the roads, the town is responsible for them. That means much more expense than is given from Fed Chapter 90 money, less money for schools, police, and other services unless taxes go up. Know what and where you are buying. Did you see the part about increasing our taxes to pay to get the roads to a point where they can be accepted? All sounds like a good idea and fair and such, but that means your taxes will have to go up, up, up! Good luck.
Mom in the Tyng wrote:
why can't we accept the roads during town meeting now so we can get the federal funds?
townie

Laconia, NH

#6 May 9, 2010
Been in volved with this in another town. We needed 100 percent of residents to sign off on every road to be accepted. Some residents thought the town was trying to pull something, so they wouldn't sign the release forms. This was 10 years ago, now they live with the declining conditions of these roads because the money has dried up for engineering costs to upgrade them which has to be done first.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#7 May 9, 2010
"Lemoine said taxpayers have paid $600,000 a year for 10 years on a bond to build Tyngsboro High School. That bond ends in fiscal 2011, he said, so residents could be asked to move a chunk of that into an "Unaccepted Roads Improvement Program" fund, which they could do without noticing a new tax impact."

Get rid of one debt and can't wait to get another. How about paving some of the accepted roads. Chestnut Rd and Locust Av come to mind.
DDA

Tyngsboro, MA

#8 May 9, 2010
You can get the road paved, you just have to pay for it yourself through a street betterment.
yu protest

Mattapan, MA

#9 May 9, 2010
Come on everyone--stop laughing! The perfect response to greedy over-development in a town is a refusal to provide newcomers with a pathway. Any increase in the number of residents increases taxes in all sectors of the town. Then there are the unintended benefits; as great way to prevent kids from skateboarding down the middle of the street and snow plows from tearing down mailboxes and tearing up the lawns. Don't complain be happy.
Reader

Lowell, MA

#10 May 9, 2010
Chapter 90 is funded by the state, not the federal government.

Please print a correction.
KSM

Gloucester, MA

#11 May 9, 2010
Some insights into gravel road construction; listed publications at the end of the document may help.

http://www.frcog.org/pubs/transportation/Grav...
ZTyngsborough

Merrimack, NH

#12 May 9, 2010
Wondering wrote:
"Lemoine said taxpayers have paid $600,000 a year for 10 years on a bond to build Tyngsboro High School. That bond ends in fiscal 2011, he said, so residents could be asked to move a chunk of that into an "Unaccepted Roads Improvement Program" fund, which they could do without noticing a new tax impact."
Get rid of one debt and can't wait to get another. How about paving some of the accepted roads. Chestnut Rd and Locust Av come to mind.
Wondering, you make a good point about taking care of accepted streets first. My question is: why is the issue of unaccepted roads in Tyngsborough coming to the public's attention now, in 2010? This is something that should have been addressed years ago. Has there been a process established by the town to make sure we don't add to our unaccepted street problem, such as making sure all infrastructure improvements are done first and requiring developers to post bonds? If not, why not? And as far as Rich Lemoine's debt swap idea is concerned, after five years on the BOS that's the best idea he can come up with?
Funny shirt

Peabody, MA

#13 May 9, 2010
If she realized she was going to have her picture in the paper, she would have picked a better looking outfit!
lhs mom

Boston, MA

#14 May 9, 2010
Funny shirt wrote:
If she realized she was going to have her picture in the paper, she would have picked a better looking outfit!
Yes....my daughter saw her picture and said
"I have the same shirt...(she's fifteen!!)Apparently she shops at the Miley Cyrus section at Walmart"
Skippy

Wilmington, MA

#15 May 9, 2010
property owners on unaccepted streets are paying the same property taxes as those on public ways, file abatements everyone on private ways, that should get someones attention.
Ron

Tyngsboro, MA

#16 May 9, 2010
My son looked at her picture and said she looks like a witch...
Read before you speak

Prides Crossing, MA

#17 May 9, 2010
The law is clear... a road is not jusyt 'unaccepted' it is called a "Private Way." That's right, a private road, that the private road owners are legally responsible to pay for the paving, drainage and upkeep on. People who live on "private ways" have never paid the cost of building a legally acceptable road (a one time expense of about $6000 -$7000) while people on public roads have already paid for it (when they bought the empty lot or when the builder put up the home).

When your private road meets all of the engineering standards for width, drainage, depth, sidewalks, etc., the Towns are always happy to "accept" them because then the Town will receive State money to help maintain them. Right now, the plowing, salting and sanding being done by Tyngsboro on all of those roads is being paid for 'out of pocket' instead of being reimbursed by the State, so all of those private road owners are hurting the school, fire, police, public works and every other municipal budget.

If you live on a private way / unaccepted street, you can file an action in district court (Lowell) to pay for the improvements. Talk to a lawyer but quit whining to the newspaper that the town won't give you something for nothing.
howdy doody

Wilmington, MA

#18 May 9, 2010
Skippy wrote:
property owners on unaccepted streets are paying the same property taxes as those on public ways, file abatements everyone on private ways, that should get someones attention.
so if the town ignores betterments, wetland protection act, MGL, town bylaws and charges property owners same tax rate as public ways, fails to provide fire and rescue services on same level as others i can file abatement and or go to state appellate tax board or file group action ???? please help..my tax dollars should help my neighborhood not others...celts won
Ahem

Albuquerque, NM

#19 May 9, 2010
Tsk Tsk...while my heart goes out to folks living on busted streets/roads/avenues/byways/p laces/etc., I can't help but call to mind all the outrage about talking or texting on one's cell phone while eating or sipping a DD coffee etc. while driving. The video sure gives the impression the CameraDude is videoing while driving....do we need another law or simply to bring back The Suicide Knobs?
Michael Dickless aka Vic

Wilmington, MA

#20 May 9, 2010
Ahem wrote:
Tsk Tsk...while my heart goes out to folks living on busted streets/roads/avenues/byways/p laces/etc., I can't help but call to mind all the outrage about talking or texting on one's cell phone while eating or sipping a DD coffee etc. while driving. The video sure gives the impression the CameraDude is videoing while driving....do we need another law or simply to bring back The Suicide Knobs?
try this app...http://www.shrunkenheads .com/

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