Tension in Lowell neighborhood over h...

Tension in Lowell neighborhood over home for youths

There are 147 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Oct 4, 2009, titled Tension in Lowell neighborhood over home for youths. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Frustration over the location of a group home on Wilder Street boiled over yesterday morning during a neighborhood meeting in the city's Lower Highlands section.

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Youth Group

Dracut, MA

#1 Oct 4, 2009
"I think all of the neighbors should be alarmed," said Sheehan. "They are using tax dollars to fund a house like this of young scumbag punks."

I was a teen who grew up in a group home because my parents were junkies and completely incapable of taking care of me, nor did they care. If it wasnt for group homes to help me through life wheather it be school or the facts of life, I never would have graduated or gone to college or be on my feet now. I can't believe someone would be so crude to a child with misfortune. Instead of putting the boys down why dont you try to help them. Be a part of their lives make a difference instead of jumping to conclusions. Be a part of the solution instead of being so selfish. You live in Lowell, you're not in the lap of luxury either. Everyone is struggling right now. Take a look around our city, what are you doing to help improve it besides opening your mouth, talking about things you know nothing about and ignore to help.
really

AOL

#2 Oct 4, 2009
I am confused when the article states the home is littered with empty beer bottles? These youth's are between 16-20 years old, not even the legal drinking age? I would assume the home is supervised 24 hours a day with staff, so how in the world could drinking be involved? The state needs to look into the agency running this program, it makes all the difference in these types of homes.
resident

Lowell, MA

#3 Oct 4, 2009
This group home is obviously not being managed correctly. I hope that wherever she is getting her grants from pull the funding next year...that's pretty much the only way to shut the place down.
There are plenty of other social service and group homes in the area that are being run appropriately, and places like GRIP ruin the public perception of them all.
tech geek

Richmond, MI

#4 Oct 4, 2009
That guy has been in the paper before for stuff like that...Growing in Lowell, and living in that neighborhood you get to know the names of people and know what is probably more likely. I bet thats not the whole story, and that guy started something. He probably wanted to "show 'em what its really like to be a man". Did the sun talk to the kids or the group home, or the neighbors that said they didn't even know the place was there and they live in back of it? or the guy right next door to Don Sheehan who said the kids are great, and hired the one that was there to rake his leaves....What about that part?(Does the sun also mention that Don exploded at the end of the meeting and leaves because the whole neighborhood thought he was out of line?)
tech geek

Richmond, MI

#5 Oct 4, 2009
really wrote:
I am confused when the article states the home is littered with empty beer bottles? These youth's are between 16-20 years old, not even the legal drinking age? I would assume the home is supervised 24 hours a day with staff, so how in the world could drinking be involved? The state needs to look into the agency running this program, it makes all the difference in these types of homes.
The article stated that the lady that didn't want to be named said something about beer bottles. What she said was that she saw a kid get out of a car, put down his beer bottles before going on grounds. thats what was really said. No one in the meeting said the place was littered with beer bottles. Thats inaccuracy of the Sun reporter. Honestly, I don't really care what happens with this home. But the truth is, the Sun reporting is not very investigative, and isn't even accurate, and that has gotten annoying. A city of this caliber needs a news competitor for the sun.
Maggie

Peabody, MA

#7 Oct 4, 2009
Why is it that Lowell must bear the burden for "hosting" these group homes. Are there any in the surounding towns? 42 calls so far this year to this one location is too many. How about the other GRIP homes in Lowell. How many calls to them? This is outrageous and I strongly object wasting my tax dollars and our limioted police resources on a poorly managed facilty. It;s time for new legislation that will prevent these facilites from being foisted on us.
Info

Simsbury, CT

#8 Oct 4, 2009
http://www.jri.org

Justice Resource Institute,Inc.

A Massachusetts corporation.
Don Sheehan

Amherst, NH

#9 Oct 4, 2009
Maggie wrote:
Why is it that Lowell must bear the burden for "hosting" these group homes. Are there any in the surounding towns? 42 calls so far this year to this one location is too many. How about the other GRIP homes in Lowell. How many calls to them? This is outrageous and I strongly object wasting my tax dollars and our limioted police resources on a poorly managed facilty. It;s time for new legislation that will prevent these facilites from being foisted on us.
Thank you for your comment, I totally agree !
Don Sheehan
Upset Neighbor

Framingham, MA

#10 Oct 4, 2009
I live in this neighborhood and yes, the house is out of control, but WHERE IS THE SUPERVISION and rules for these kids. I know that these homes help the kids, but this house is out of control. I hear everything that goes on there and I am sick and tired of calling the cops.

Article states, "Rachel Chandler, director of the GRIP house, explained that nine youths, aged 16 to 20, live in the house. There are 13 floor supervisors, a case manager and a community outreach staff person."

How many supervisors are there at one time?? Maybe there needs to be more supervision. I am guessing there is one or two there at a time since there is not many cars in the driveway...most of the time just one or two.

Maybe Lowell police should start paying attention to this house more and stop being so friendly with them. The cops stop to check in and chat and joke around with the kids.
Dave G

North Andover, MA

#11 Oct 4, 2009
Thats the problem with young people with no parents or just bad parents that arent much older then the kids themselves. I beleive strongly that people should really have to take a test to be able to have kids, and they should have to provide a plan on how they are going to support and raise their kids. I know this is extreme, but its rediculas the number of kids turning into little thugs that become big thugs, and do nothing but bring down property values and raise crime rates. I praise the people that actually teach their kids morels and the difference between right and wrong.
Wow

Hudson, MA

#12 Oct 4, 2009
These group homes should be monitered like the bar rooms are.So many complaints and it is shut down. The punks causing the problems should be weeded out as it looks like the program is not working for them.
And WHY are there empty beer bottles?? these kids are under 21 so someone isn't watching them.
15 people watching NINE kids this problem should NOT even be happening.
Get rid of the trouble makers and clean up this residence before some of the elderly veterans across the street gets hurt by these punks.
Wow

Hudson, MA

#13 Oct 4, 2009
SOOO Sorry ---But when PUNKS from this home threaten neighbors and fight with the owner of the Veterans group home something needs to be done.
These neighbors and elderly veterans who have lived in PEACE for years don't need this.
Next time one of these punks gets in you face knock him out and maybe he will learn some respect for other people.
Youth Group wrote:
"I think all of the neighbors should be alarmed," said Sheehan. "They are using tax dollars to fund a house like this of young **** punks."
I was a teen who grew up in a group home because my parents were junkies and completely incapable of taking care of me, nor did they care. If it wasnt for group homes to help me through life wheather it be school or the facts of life, I never would have graduated or gone to college or be on my feet now. I can't believe someone would be so crude to a child with misfortune. Instead of putting the boys down why dont you try to help them. Be a part of their lives make a difference instead of jumping to conclusions. Be a part of the solution instead of being so selfish. You live in Lowell, you're not in the lap of luxury either. Everyone is struggling right now. Take a look around our city, what are you doing to help improve it besides opening your mouth, talking about things you know nothing about and ignore to help.
Tony

Tewksbury, MA

#14 Oct 4, 2009
Move the group home next to Kazanjian's house.
Maggie

Peabody, MA

#15 Oct 4, 2009
He's already got the Polay woman that's keeps suing the Police Captain.I wonder what those boys would think of her itsy bitsy bikini.
Tony wrote:
Move the group home next to Kazanjian's house.
Knows Better

Lincoln, MA

#16 Oct 4, 2009
Wow wrote:
These group homes should be monitered like the bar rooms are.So many complaints and it is shut down. The punks causing the problems should be weeded out as it looks like the program is not working for them.
And WHY are there empty beer bottles?? these kids are under 21 so someone isn't watching them.
15 people watching NINE kids this problem should NOT even be happening.
Get rid of the trouble makers and clean up this residence before some of the elderly veterans across the street gets hurt by these punks.
Great idea. Any other business establishment has to go before a licensing type board when it gets too many complaints. Why not these places. There are more group homes in my neighborhood than there are bars.
Lowell

North Andover, MA

#17 Oct 4, 2009
Maggie wrote:
Why is it that Lowell must bear the burden for "hosting" these group homes. Are there any in the surounding towns? 42 calls so far this year to this one location is too many. How about the other GRIP homes in Lowell. How many calls to them? This is outrageous and I strongly object wasting my tax dollars and our limioted police resources on a poorly managed facilty. It;s time for new legislation that will prevent these facilites from being foisted on us.
Actually there are many different programs located in many towns. These programs are for troubled kids who have alot of problems. What exactly would you like to have done with them? They need stability and people around them 24/7. They need therapy and educations, not more people to throw them away with the garbage. Nothing is foisted onto anyone- if these programs did not exist, your neighborhoods would be probably be worse off. So before you decide to "strongly object" to spending some money on trying to help some troubled KIDS who have never had loving parents or anyone to really care about what they did, maybe you should do a little more research into what these HOMES are trying to do.
just observing

Acton, MA

#18 Oct 4, 2009
Tony wrote:
Move the group home next to Kazanjian's house.
I think next to the police would be more appropriate.
Harry

Amherst, NH

#19 Oct 4, 2009
Lowell wrote:
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Actually there are many different programs located in many towns. These programs are for troubled kids who have alot of problems. What exactly would you like to have done with them? They need stability and people around them 24/7. They need therapy and educations, not more people to throw them away with the garbage. Nothing is foisted onto anyone- if these programs did not exist, your neighborhoods would be probably be worse off. So before you decide to "strongly object" to spending some money on trying to help some troubled KIDS who have never had loving parents or anyone to really care about what they did, maybe you should do a little more research into what these HOMES are trying to do.
So your saying it's ok for these kids to harras and intimidate disabled veterans and reek havoc on a neighborhood just because they are troubled kids, why don't you stop by the grip home and take a half dozen of them home with you. Why don't you bring home the female from the grip home that is charged with the stabbing death of an innocent Lowell man. You know so much and you are so sympathetic, pathedic is more like it
Kim

Dracut, MA

#21 Oct 4, 2009
ichabod wrote:
Burn the groip home to the ground while they are asleep in it.
You are a pathetic human being for even typing that. This seems like an issue of very poor management. Unfortunately, teens will be teens if they lack supervision. These children seem to have been victimized their whole life and now they seem to be once again left with little adult supervision and direction. I think Lowell needs a call for new management when the local residents are being victimized now. This is an issue for the adults to handle.
MARY B

Lowell, MA

#22 Oct 4, 2009
Harry wrote:
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So your saying it's ok for these kids to harras and intimidate disabled veterans and reek havoc on a neighborhood just because they are troubled kids, why don't you stop by the grip home and take a half dozen of them home with you. Why don't you bring home the female from the grip home that is charged with the stabbing death of an innocent Lowell man. You know so much and you are so sympathetic, pathedic is more like it
group homes are needed but need to be run right, where are all the employees when these things go on, keep the group home get rid of the staff

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