Horror on UML sidewalk

Full story: Lowell Sun 88
Rachel Carnes saw the pickup coming. She was standing next to a bench on University Avenue when the Dodge Ram flew off the road and struck her on the sidewalk, witnesses said. Full Story
noname

Cambridge, MA

#61 Feb 2, 2008
There is really only one issue in this whole situation, whether or not what happened to Jeff Hoban was a condition he already knew about. If he was previously aware of fainting or seizures, then he is completely at fault and should be CHARGED criminally. Ignorance is not an excuse. If he was unaware of any condition and something medical happened, then I feel badly for him, because most people will not be able to hear his side of it.
Smile

Lowell, MA

#62 Feb 2, 2008
noname wrote:
There is really only one issue in this whole situation, whether or not what happened to Jeff Hoban was a condition he already knew about. If he was previously aware of fainting or seizures, then he is completely at fault and should be CHARGED criminally. Ignorance is not an excuse. If he was unaware of any condition and something medical happened, then I feel badly for him, because most people will not be able to hear his side of it.
AGREED ~ Then he can grow the Insight
necessary to prevent the tradgey from recurring once more. Keep Planning for Victory in Lowell Massachusetts and never Gamble on the Odds!
Erik

Avon, CT

#63 Feb 2, 2008
You have to be super super careful, when you drive through. Ive seen some students step right out in front of Moving Cars, Expecting them to stop.
nurse

Brooklyn, NY

#65 Feb 2, 2008
Stephen wrote:
Correction: Or ..is a seizure capable of causing an overexertion of force of muscular activity?
Please Pray for the healing of all.
It absolutly can. Sounds like a tragedy for all. My prayers go out to the victim and the driver
lowell

Haverhill, MA

#66 Feb 2, 2008
The Campus wrote:
Then THIS DRIVER and his doctor should be arrested. This DUMB A*** should NEVER got a licence to drive and hurt innocent people.
I HOPE they take his right to drive in this state away from him. He should be ashamed of himself for causing this.
<quoted text>
AN ACCCIDENT IS JUST THAT ,IT IS NOT LIKE THIS YOUNG MAN PLANNED ON THIS HAPPENING !
A MEDICAL CONDITION CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE AT ANY POINT IN TIME !
I AM SAYING PRAYERS FOR BOTH OF THESE VICTIMS OF THIS ACCIDENT ...
A CATWALK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA ,ALSO CROSSING OVER THE BLVD .....I KNOW HOW DANGEROUS IT IS FROM A DRIVERS POINT OF VEIW AS I LIVE IN THE AREA AND TRAVEL THAT ROUTE FREQUENTLY . ALOT OF DRIVERS DO NOT STOP FOR THE STUDENTS TO CROSS EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE LAW...WE CAN ALL DEBATE THIS UNTIL HELL FREEZES OVER BUT WILL IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE ?
MAYBE THE STUDENTS CAN DO SOME KINDA PROTEST ? LIKE COLLEGE STUDENTS DID IN THE PAST ...SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE SOMEONE IS HIT CROSSING THE STREET....
Smile

Lowell, MA

#67 Feb 2, 2008
friend wrote:
I personally know the driver of the truck and he fainted behind the wheel....he has fainted in the past but never behind the wheel of a car. he feels absolutely horrible about this whole situation. it truly was about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. my prayers are with rachel and her family and I really hope she pulls. its a tragedy on both ends
Seizure causes overreaction of involuntary muscle groups. Fainting only cause a loss of consciousness. does he have a documented medical history? In the interest's of identifying an epileptic who can not be authorized to drive under this medical condition I submit to this additional post.
Noname wrote:
There is really only one issue in this whole situation, whether or not what happened to Jeff Hoban was a condition he already knew about. If he was previously aware of fainting or seizures, then he is completely at fault and should be CHARGED criminally. Ignorance is not an excuse.
Smile

Lowell, MA

#68 Feb 2, 2008
Fainting' does not cause a heavy foot on the accellerator.
Seizure' can cause that sort of muscular exertion to the pedal of the accellerator.
A State Police Forensic lab could Inspect this incidence through Investigation of whether evidence leading to a "finding" of negligence can be maintained. The reason being the safeguarding of all motorists including the driver Jeff Hobart and pedestrians alike from a medical recurrance of the act which has struck already.. Go to trial and sort it apart.
DRACUT

Lowell, MA

#70 Feb 3, 2008
Bonnie wrote:
I am a former staff member of Umass Lowell. Rachel Carnes lived in the Residence Hall that I ran when I worked there. She was an absolutely delightful young lady. My heart goes out to her and her family. I am keeping her in my prayers and truly hope she recovers and is the same vibrant Rachel she once was again soon. Standing at the bus stop...no one could have seen that coming... it could have happened to anyone. I feel sorry that she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Arguing about the traffic and pedestrians is pretty much irrelevant to this situation since she was standing appropriately in the bustop when it occurred. Lets not exploit this situation for other purposes. Lets view it for what it was...a horrible, tragic accident. And lets direct all our energies to sending healing thoughts her way.
Absolutely. I agree.
Dracut acquaintance

Lowell, MA

#71 Feb 3, 2008
dennis- carpentier sr wrote:
WHAT again =speed hurts:
yes, dennis speed can hurt, whats your point? nobody was speeding.
Junior at UML

Peabody, MA

#72 Feb 3, 2008
Dracut acquaintance wrote:
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yes, dennis speed can hurt, whats your point? nobody was speeding.
This guy was speeding because of the damage he had done. The question is wether or not he is negligent.
Laura

East Hampstead, NH

#73 Feb 3, 2008
sue wrote:
I don`t know Rachel,but i did want to say Rachel we all will b praying 4 u.
I do not know Rachel either, however, I cannot stop thinking of her. She is in my prayers and I wish her and her family well. I have children Rachel's age. My prayers are for her recovery.
Lowell Resident

Amesbury, MA

#74 Feb 4, 2008
The Campus wrote:
Then THIS DRIVER and his doctor should be arrested. This DUMB A*** should NEVER got a licence to drive and hurt innocent people.
I HOPE they take his right to drive in this state away from him. He should be ashamed of himself for causing this.
<quoted text>
All I have to say is you're sick... It's a tragedy on both ends...
UML Student

Montgomery, AL

#75 Feb 4, 2008
Central Mass wrote:
My prayers go out to Rachel. As an alumni, I agree that there should be some protection for those who have to wait for the bus, that whole stretch of road is horrible, especially when all the commuters try to leave around the same time. FYI Bedford UML student, you're not an engineering major now are you? I think lights would cost a bit more than "hundreds". Leave the real thinking to the graduated professionals.....
A couple thousand on bumps, a couple hundred (thousand) on lights. I didn't think the remedial room was online today and that I needed to expalin it fully, completely and clearly enough for dimwits to understand, but then again....
UML Student

Montgomery, AL

#76 Feb 4, 2008
Stephen wrote:
I Dreamt of a Four horsepower plan last night. Now start revving your engines sister's and let them hear it too..
A]Make it a Oak Tree lined sidewalk.
B]Have UMASS AMHERST rebuild the area as a Arborist project.
C]Only cross the street when the light is RED.
D]Establish and annual tree hugging day event between campuses to remind us of why it is still precious activity.
Prayers for they who still feel deserted on a sidewalk waiting for the bus.
Action Roll 'em
strange...
UML Student

Montgomery, AL

#77 Feb 4, 2008
Stephen wrote:
One more Idea before the training wheels are removed - Install to the Campus crosswalk' a system of Audible alerts that provide a syncronized signal spanning a time for which it is ordinarily accepted as provident to cross under regulated circumstances.
It could produce moments to share ideas of their "precious" memories of past realized Arborist day events completed as well as what is proposed for completion pertaining to
their local Oak tree Arborist.
Indeed ,a much greater act than waiting for the Ambulance while waiting for the Bus to arrive.
Offered with combined hopes for each other to find Motherly arms still clinging to her cleaning duties from the pit of a sisters bosom.
Nice job on the Bridge railing between Brother and Sister Mom
Gotta love Her - No matter what the cost!
(Since she does not carry a purse)
People from NH are so weird....
UML Student

Montgomery, AL

#78 Feb 4, 2008
noname wrote:
There is really only one issue in this whole situation, whether or not what happened to Jeff Hoban was a condition he already knew about. If he was previously aware of fainting or seizures, then he is completely at fault and should be CHARGED criminally. Ignorance is not an excuse. If he was unaware of any condition and something medical happened, then I feel badly for him, because most people will not be able to hear his side of it.
If he had a driver's license, he can't be charged no matter what his medical condition, unless of course, he broke a law
UML Student

Lowell, MA

#79 Feb 4, 2008
She was sitting at a bus stop, not crossing the street. Talk of catwalks and traffic lights is irrelevant to this incident.

Furthermore, I've crossed University ave & VFW hundreds of times and never come close to being hit, maybe people who have issues are not paying attention and watching to see if the cars are slowing down/stopping?
lowellhighlands resident

Nonantum, MA

#80 Feb 4, 2008
If the guy had some kind of issue, this could have happened anywhere. It just happened to be at UML.
SMILE

Lowell, MA

#82 Feb 5, 2008
Lowell Memorial Auditorium has a great example of a tree lined sidewalk that looks great and will stop a "Dodge Ram Between the Acorns" with or without official medical documentation of Epilepsy..or a plain story about fantasyzing to the Press and Public about the Medical condition.
So the viper can feed it through your cheeks on another sad occassion during your unexpected hospital stay.

“LIVE TO RIDE. RIDE TO LIVE.”

Since: Feb 08

DRACUT

#83 Feb 5, 2008
dennis- carpentier sr wrote:
<quoted text> well he 3wasnot goin slow and watching for pedesrians with all that dammage point;
He was stopped at a red light when had a seizure which caused involuntary muscle movement that pinned down the gas pedal. It was an unfortunate accident and Im sure precautions will be taken to prevent this from happening again. That is according to the info I received from close friends of the driver and that is what I believe.
We all wish Rachel a full recovery.

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