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Full-day kindergarten costs parents $3,200

There are 83 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Apr 17, 2010, titled Full-day kindergarten costs parents $3,200. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Dracut kids will soon be able to attend full-day kindergarten, but the class will cost their parents $3,200 for the year.

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“um, ok...yea, that's it...”

Since: Aug 08

Lowell

#63 Sep 22, 2010
Anonymous Dracut Mom wrote:
Wake up Dracut parents...we stand a lot to lose...wave good-bye to the tens of thousands of dollars in grant monies supporting the lottery program currently in place. Although imperfect, it does not discriminate based upon socioeconomic means, however, the proposed program would. Don't forget, tuition rates never remain static and are annually subject to increase. ATTENTION GRANDPARENTS OF FUTURE DRACUT KINDERGARTEN STUDENTS: Ask yourselves where your well-intentioned children will find the money to pay for your grandchild(ren) to attend Full-Day Kindergarten and if they can't find the money, who do you think they'll turn to? Grandparents potentially stand to be significantly affected by this short-sighted proposal as well. They are also old and wise enough to realize they wouldn't be getting their money's worth!
It wouldn't be my responsiblity to pay for schooling for my grandchild and it is pretty pathetic that you would turn to your own parents and guilt them into it. If you can't afford full-day Kindergarten, then put them in half-day and teach them at home as well....School is not there as a babysitter. Kindergarten is not that important, people. Teach your child at home - don't play the guilt card.
umyeah

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#64 Sep 22, 2010
Gilly wrote:
If you can't feed them, don't breed them.
Kids aren't cheap. Plan accordingly.
Alright Gilly.

you planned accordingly, you had a good job for tens years. had a kid rencently and got laid off.

now you cant find work or are underemployed

Now what? It's time to off the kid because you can't afford him now huh?
Kindergarten NOW

Lowell, MA

#65 Sep 22, 2010
Lowell Girl at Heart wrote:
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It wouldn't be my responsiblity to pay for schooling for my grandchild and it is pretty pathetic that you would turn to your own parents and guilt them into it. If you can't afford full-day Kindergarten, then put them in half-day and teach them at home as well....School is not there as a babysitter. Kindergarten is not that important, people. Teach your child at home - don't play the guilt card.
Kindergarten is very important. Kindergarten curriculum today is the 1st Grade curriculum of the previous generation. Judging from your sloppy proofreading, despite your error being highlighted in RED, you would appear to be one of the more well-educated members of our community. Teachers earn degrees, most through Master's Level these days -- you are belittling the invaluable contribution of hard-working, dedicated, oftentimes underpaid Kindergarten teachers in our community. Parenting is the job of parents -- not teaching academics, where they assume a supportive role of teachers and the academic needs and goals of their children. There's no reason Dracut can't have Grant Writers bringing in monies, both public and private, earning only percentages of monies drawn in (no grants = no pay = no risk investment). Other towns have grant-supported Full-Day Kindergarten programs available to their children -- why shouldn't we? Babysitting is done by Daycare -- not Pre-school (preparation for school) and Kindergarten (the very foundation of elementary school and students' educational future). State law mandates that 1/2 day Kindergarten classes be available to all -- even if Full-day Kindergarten was made available Districtwide, 1/2 Day classes would continue to be available for those choosing that option. Clearly you are too ignorant to realize the importance of education and increasingly high demands placed on students today. Perhaps you should take a remedial program at one of the many area higher education institutions to brush up on your written communication skills before you even consider giving advice about education to the rest of us.
citizen

Dracut, MA

#66 Sep 23, 2010
Kindergarten NOW wrote:
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Kindergarten is very important. Kindergarten curriculum today is the 1st Grade curriculum of the previous generation. Judging from your sloppy proofreading, despite your error being highlighted in RED, you would appear to be one of the more well-educated members of our community. Teachers earn degrees, most through Master's Level these days -- you are belittling the invaluable contribution of hard-working, dedicated, oftentimes underpaid Kindergarten teachers in our community. Parenting is the job of parents -- not teaching academics, where they assume a supportive role of teachers and the academic needs and goals of their children. There's no reason Dracut can't have Grant Writers bringing in monies, both public and private, earning only percentages of monies drawn in (no grants = no pay = no risk investment). Other towns have grant-supported Full-Day Kindergarten programs available to their children -- why shouldn't we? Babysitting is done by Daycare -- not Pre-school (preparation for school) and Kindergarten (the very foundation of elementary school and students' educational future). State law mandates that 1/2 day Kindergarten classes be available to all -- even if Full-day Kindergarten was made available Districtwide, 1/2 Day classes would continue to be available for those choosing that option. Clearly you are too ignorant to realize the importance of education and increasingly high demands placed on students today. Perhaps you should take a remedial program at one of the many area higher education institutions to brush up on your written communication skills before you even consider giving advice about education to the rest of us.
Maybe you should brush up on your parenting skills. There is absolutely no reason why a parent can't teach their child enough to get into the first grade. It is your responsibility to do the best for your child and if you can't afford the extra to pay for a full day kindergarten then you should take time to teach your child what you feel they are missing in that half day. The tax payers are being stretched as it is, your child is not being denied an education, they are being denied free 1/2 day daycare. If they have decent parents at home, you won't see a difference in children who have had 1/2 kindergarten vs full day. Tax payers are being stretched to the limit right now and to expect them to pay more taxes so we don't have to teach our kids stuff that we should be doing anyway is wrong.
Some towns are charging to ride the school bus to school, I feel that is wrong.
what

Lowell, MA

#67 Sep 23, 2010
Barbara wrote:
I live in Dracut and I home schooled my children until they went to first grade. They were the smartest kids in their class.
Save your money if you can and teach them at home. I enjoyed every minute teaching them and they loved learning.
Must be nice to be able to stay home all day and teach your kids.
what

Lowell, MA

#68 Sep 23, 2010
umyeah wrote:
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Alright Gilly.
you planned accordingly, you had a good job for tens years. had a kid rencently and got laid off.
now you cant find work or are underemployed
Now what? It's time to off the kid because you can't afford him now huh?
You could do what fortunate mom does, and provide some home schooling. If you just got laid off, you should have time to do at least that much. It's called parenting.
Do your homework

Medford, MA

#69 Sep 23, 2010
I think "Dracut Mom" should run for school committee! I never understood why someone with no children in system would have the desire to be on this committee, but I guess it is a stepping stone to bigger political aspirations. You are right, if you don't have children, you can't possibly understand the cost, time commitments, worries, competing priorities, etc. that we all face every day. It's hard to appropriately advocate for children when you don't have any and don't fully understand their needs and the needs of families in geenral.
T E A

Lowell, MA

#70 Sep 23, 2010
Do your homework wrote:
I think "Dracut Mom" should run for school committee! I never understood why someone with no children in system would have the desire to be on this committee, but I guess it is a stepping stone to bigger political aspirations. You are right, if you don't have children, you can't possibly understand the cost, time commitments, worries, competing priorities, etc. that we all face every day. It's hard to appropriately advocate for children when you don't have any and don't fully understand their needs and the needs of families in geenral.
I agree. But at the same time, you shouldn't be swallowing up every penny of my tax dollars to compensate for your lack of foresight. You want kids, and you don't want society telling you how to raise them, but when the bill comes in, you sure do know how to ask us to pay up.
umyeah

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#71 Sep 23, 2010
what wrote:
<quoted text>
You could do what fortunate mom does, and provide some home schooling. If you just got laid off, you should have time to do at least that much. It's called parenting.
wow. that's so easy! nevermind those that are underemployed and work their butt off

It's called reality. Most people live there you should too.
Kindergarten NOW

Lowell, MA

#72 Sep 23, 2010
No one wants taxpayers to incur the cost of Full-Day K...Full-Day K programs are typically supported by grant monies...Dracut does not have full-time grant writers employed by the system...grant writers earn percentages of monies they draw into their school systems so if they aren't productive, they don't get paid...$61K in grant monies support the current full day lottery Kindergarten program where 3 schools have 2 classrooms w/46 total slots in each of those schools and 1 school has 1 classroom w/23 total slots...if Dracut establishes a tuition-based program, they will lose those $61K in grant monies supporting the current program...in this economy, how can we as a town afford to even entertain the idea of throwing away $61K in grant monies?
I don't understand how anyone could possibly be against pushing the system to bring itself up to speed by starting to take advantage of the benefits reaped by employing commission-paid, no financial risk grant writers and getting a full-day Kindergarten program fully funded and accessible to all our children? Grant monies also have very specific guidelines attached to their usage so there is no intention of "babysitting" only a legitimate educational program.
No one wants to raise anyone's taxes and it would never happen anyway because Dracut, especially its active voter population, is heavily elderly and they certainly cannot afford and will not vote for a tax increase.
YES TO GRANT FUNDING -- NO TO NEW TAXES! Please remember, the cost of raising children is no minor burden no matter -- we're ALL on the same side of the tax issue!
Oh Really

Czech Republic

#73 Sep 23, 2010
Where's my duct-tape, my head's about to explode?
Where do you think "Grant Funding" comes from, the Grant fairy?
When are you liberals going to actually take responsibility for your own lives and fund your own needs?
When, ever?
Seriously, EVER?
Why do you always look for "the taxpayer" (other people) to fund the things you want, yet refuse to pay for?
Who taught you people to be parasites?
Kindergarten NOW wrote:
YES TO GRANT FUNDING -- NO TO NEW TAXES! Please remember, the cost of raising children is no minor burden no matter -- we're ALL on the same side of the tax issue!

“um, ok...yea, that's it...”

Since: Aug 08

Lowell

#74 Sep 24, 2010
Kindergarten NOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Kindergarten is very important. Kindergarten curriculum today is the 1st Grade curriculum of the previous generation. Judging from your sloppy proofreading, despite your error being highlighted in RED, you would appear to be one of the more well-educated members of our community. Teachers earn degrees, most through Master's Level these days -- you are belittling the invaluable contribution of hard-working, dedicated, oftentimes underpaid Kindergarten teachers in our community. Parenting is the job of parents -- not teaching academics, where they assume a supportive role of teachers and the academic needs and goals of their children. There's no reason Dracut can't have Grant Writers bringing in monies, both public and private, earning only percentages of monies drawn in (no grants = no pay = no risk investment). Other towns have grant-supported Full-Day Kindergarten programs available to their children -- why shouldn't we? Babysitting is done by Daycare -- not Pre-school (preparation for school) and Kindergarten (the very foundation of elementary school and students' educational future). State law mandates that 1/2 day Kindergarten classes be available to all -- even if Full-day Kindergarten was made available Districtwide, 1/2 Day classes would continue to be available for those choosing that option. Clearly you are too ignorant to realize the importance of education and increasingly high demands placed on students today. Perhaps you should take a remedial program at one of the many area higher education institutions to brush up on your written communication skills before you even consider giving advice about education to the rest of us.
ohhh, hit a nerve, did I? Get over yourself. The fact is, kindergarten skills can be taught by the parent. Good parents actually LIKE to teach their children. Regardless of how you feel about it, there are things in this life that you have to pay for yourself. If you can't afford full-day then utilize the half-day program and teach your child at home. Period.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#75 Sep 24, 2010
Kindergarten NOW wrote:
No one wants to raise anyone's taxes....we're ALL on the same side of the tax issue!
Is it April 1st?
Kindergarten NOW

Lowell, MA

#76 Sep 24, 2010
Lowell Girl at Heart wrote:
<quoted text>
ohhh, hit a nerve, did I? Get over yourself. The fact is, kindergarten skills can be taught by the parent. Good parents actually LIKE to teach their children. Regardless of how you feel about it, there are things in this life that you have to pay for yourself. If you can't afford full-day then utilize the half-day program and teach your child at home. Period.
The only nerve is your suggestion that parents should pay out of pocket for public school education that is funded by grant monies everywhere else. No one's taxes stand to be affected. Grant monies are available for the taking -- its a matter of applying for and receiving them. Clearly, you aren't the brightest light on the Christmas tree, so I can understand why you don't value education and that's your right; however, when the money isn't coming out of your pocket, where do you get off objecting to others right to choose a better education for their children? Perhaps if you had the benefit of a half-decent Kindergarten education you wouldn't have become the ignorant, narrow-minded individual that you clearly are. Ignorance is bliss -- have fun!
Kindergarten NOW

Lowell, MA

#77 Sep 24, 2010
Oh Really wrote:
Where's my duct-tape, my head's about to explode?
Where do you think "Grant Funding" comes from, the Grant fairy?
When are you liberals going to actually take responsibility for your own lives and fund your own needs?
When, ever?
Seriously, EVER?
Why do you always look for "the taxpayer" (other people) to fund the things you want, yet refuse to pay for?
Who taught you people to be parasites?
<quoted text>
Were you under the mistaken impression that all grants are publicly funded? Were you unaware of the existence of private grant funding? The strength of the ex-urban fight to keep our children undereducated and deprived of opportunity is astounding. God forbid anyone even suggest investing in our children. Paying out of pocket for education is an option provided to all by private schools -- are you suggesting the privatization of public schools? Public schools are intended to be accessible to all members of a community. What next, entrance fees at the library?
It's people like you that are appalled when children with lousy educational opportunities make poor decisions and then you all end up having to pay for their room and board in our prisons where they don't pay taxes.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#78 Sep 24, 2010
Kindergarten NOW wrote:
<quoted text>
The only nerve is your suggestion that parents should pay out of pocket for public school education that is funded by grant monies everywhere else. No one's taxes stand to be affected. Grant monies are available for the taking -- its a matter of applying for and receiving them. Clearly, you aren't the brightest light on the Christmas tree, so I can understand why you don't value education and that's your right; however, when the money isn't coming out of your pocket, where do you get off objecting to others right to choose a better education for their children? Perhaps if you had the benefit of a half-decent Kindergarten education you wouldn't have become the ignorant, narrow-minded individual that you clearly are. Ignorance is bliss -- have fun!
Do you know the difference between a tax and a fee?
The title:
"Full-day kindergarten costs parents $3,200"
Who's pocket is that?
Pretty cheap daycare.

"Perhaps if you had the benefit of a half-decent Kindergarten education you wouldn't have become the ignorant, narrow-minded individual that you clearly are."
If you aren't single, I feel bad for your husband.

Kindergarten is currently offered at 2.5 hours per day. It isn't mandatory that children attend. With all of the schools now offering a full day kindergarten for a fee, I'd say your grant money idea isn't working out so well. It could be that you are passionate about this, then again, maybe "you aren't the brightest light on the Christmas tree."
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#79 Sep 24, 2010
Kindergarten NOW wrote:
<quoted text>
God forbid anyone even suggest investing in our children. Paying out of pocket for education is an option provided to all by private schools --
I'm now convinced, you aren't the brightest bulb on the tree.
If school funding doesn't come out of the pockets of yaxpayers, where does it come from? There are differences between private and public school. First, private school is a choice. Second, you'll still have money coming out of pocket to fund public school, even if you don't use it.
what a riot

Milford, NH

#80 Sep 25, 2010
Kindergarten NOW wrote:
<quoted text>
The only nerve is your suggestion that parents should pay out of pocket for public school education that is funded by grant monies everywhere else. No one's taxes stand to be affected. Grant monies are available for the taking -- its a matter of applying for and receiving them. Clearly, you aren't the brightest light on the Christmas tree, so I can understand why you don't value education and that's your right; however, when the money isn't coming out of your pocket, where do you get off objecting to others right to choose a better education for their children? Perhaps if you had the benefit of a half-decent Kindergarten education you wouldn't have become the ignorant, narrow-minded individual that you clearly are. Ignorance is bliss -- have fun!
haha! your really funny!!
The only thing she objected to was YOUR narrow-minded 'gimme' attitude. You stated that it would fall to the grandparents of these children to pay...funny, I remember when my children where small and I would have NEVER suggested my parents pay for my children's expenses...You are not the only resident of Dracut, and if it bothers you that much, then get the job and write the 'grants' for yourself....or is it that you would need to be paid for your services?? Can't think of maybe doing something for someone else, you just want the world to sit at your feet waiting for you to speak, is that it? Well, hate to be the one to inform you of this but the world doesn't revolve around you. Dracut has existed this way for a long time....if you want to have free all day babysitting for your 5 year old...go to another city that offers it. It offers half-day....if this was good enough for children before, it's good enough now. I'm with Lowell Girl on this one. If you can afford it, great for you. If you can't, then utilize what is free - HALF-DAY kindergarten.

“um, ok...yea, that's it...”

Since: Aug 08

Lowell

#81 Sep 25, 2010
Kindergarten NOW wrote:
<quoted text>
The only nerve is your suggestion that parents should pay out of pocket for public school education that is funded by grant monies everywhere else. No one's taxes stand to be affected. Grant monies are available for the taking -- its a matter of applying for and receiving them. Clearly, you aren't the brightest light on the Christmas tree, so I can understand why you don't value education and that's your right; however, when the money isn't coming out of your pocket, where do you get off objecting to others right to choose a better education for their children? Perhaps if you had the benefit of a half-decent Kindergarten education you wouldn't have become the ignorant, narrow-minded individual that you clearly are. Ignorance is bliss -- have fun!
You seem to be a very angry little person...very insultive. Is this what YOU learned in kindergarten? hmmm. Maybe you need to learn how to debate an issue.

The fact remains that if you can't afford it, then use half-day. period. My children went to half day kindergarten. They are also college graduates and are gainfully employed. If they choose to have my grandchildren attend a full day kindergarten, they can afford it themselves. Not once have they asked me to fund any of their children's activities or needs. They make their own way.

Maybe you should try that. From reading your posts, I can tell that may be difficult for you, but go ahead and give it the college try!

A grant is money provided to the City for a specific purpose that does not have to be paid back, however, some grants require the city to provide a match in the form of cash. Since you are so gung-ho for this, why don't you step up to the plate and volunteer your time to write these grants, and follow them up until Dracut recieves one? Or is that just too much to ask?

“um, ok...yea, that's it...”

Since: Aug 08

Lowell

#82 Sep 25, 2010
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know the difference between a tax and a fee?
The title:
"Full-day kindergarten costs parents $3,200"
Who's pocket is that?
Pretty cheap daycare.
"Perhaps if you had the benefit of a half-decent Kindergarten education you wouldn't have become the ignorant, narrow-minded individual that you clearly are."
If you aren't single, I feel bad for your husband.
Kindergarten is currently offered at 2.5 hours per day. It isn't mandatory that children attend. With all of the schools now offering a full day kindergarten for a fee, I'd say your grant money idea isn't working out so well. It could be that you are passionate about this, then again, maybe "you aren't the brightest light on the Christmas tree."
thanks, Wondering....couldn't have said it better myself.

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