Recall election for Norton councilman will be July 10

Veteran Norton Councilman Tom Jones faces a recall vote July 10. City council members set the date at their meeting Monday night.

[Par for the course]

He needs to go. With Tom, it's all about controversy and anything that does not move Norton forward in anyway shape or form. Go to a City Council meeting, just once, and you will know why he needs out of office. He seems hateful to everyone in Norton, especially those who only try to do what is right!

[future of Norton]

Please do go to a meeting. Tom is the ONLY one asking questions. All the citizens need to see the Council in action. The Administration is running this city! And they are NOT elected.

[KEYSTONE]

Tom is doing a good job, most of the council members dont have the balls to stand up for whats right. as for as kathy c she needs to worry about her on problems from what I am hearing.

[Inquisitive]

Par for the course wrote:

He needs to go. With Tom, it's all about controversy and anything that does not move Norton forward in anyway shape or form. Go to a City Council meeting, just once, and you will know why he needs out of office. He seems hateful to everyone in Norton, especially those who only try to do what is right!

So it's controversial to question legislation, pay raises, ask for clarification on issues, and actually have the backbone to speak out against things? Yes, it would be much better for him to blindly rubber stamp everything that the Administration throws out. Shame on him.

And he's hateful to those who only try to do what is right? Tsk, tsk. Some of these righteous people were clammering to have the podium removed so the people would have no voice at council meetings. Did you miss those meetings? Most, if not all, of those involved with circulating the recall petitions are the very ones who were calling for our freedom of speech to be taken away. That would be a big move forward now, wouldn't it?

[Par for the course]

I figured these comments would follow. These few people are just like he is - anything to cause problems. Tom and his cronies do not ask questions,which would be fine, instead you accuse! Administration should be running the City. This is what we pay them for. The elected officials are there, not as rubber stampers, but to create policy and do what the people want. The majority of our Council people do this. Tom tries to mico-manage.

It's time for him to go home and clean up his own property. Have you looked at it? Someone who can't take care of his own possessions, has not business trying to clean up others!

[Welcome to Norton]

Only in Norton will we vote on a THURSDAY on a recall. Tom Jones hit the drugies on issue 45. Were is all the money comeing for recall petions issue 45 no vote. Drug leaders of Norton. Mayor Koontz has signed an agreement to put dispatch in a coop with Barberton New franklin Copley to save money. O.k. itsaves the police. Does Norton drug test the elected officals and the employees.

[RedPen]

Par for the course wrote:

I figured these comments would follow. These few people are just like he is - anything to cause problems. Tom and his cronies do not ask questions,which would be fine, instead you accuse! Administration should be running the City. This is what we pay them for. The elected officials are there, not as rubber stampers, but to create policy and do what the people want. The majority of our Council people do this. Tom tries to mico-manage.
It's time for him to go home and clean up his own property. Have you looked at it? Someone who can't take care of his own possessions, has not business trying to clean up others!

Please check your grammar, punctuation and spelling before posting; otherwise, you lack credibility. Maybe a refresher course in the "English" language is needed?

[Coventry Resident]

RedPen wrote:

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Please check your grammar, punctuation and spelling before posting; otherwise, you lack credibility. Maybe a refresher course in the "English" language is needed?

Some people may "lack credibility" because of Grammar. Unfortunately your side lacks credibility due to the fact that they have been consistently on the wrong side of most of the issues. We see your side speaking at council every week complaining and being critical of everything. Most people are just getting tired of hearing you complain. I think that people are just tired of Jones.

[Future of Norton]

Well well well. Lack credibility? Wrong side?
Mr. Jones has brought out the fact that Lake Dorothy will NOT include all the property for City use. Like the ballfields and the park areas. Those are for the PPG employees - FOR AN INDEFINITE TIME.
That is not a negotiable fact of the purchase.
Read about it in the minutes from the meeting. Right from Mr. Ryland's mouth.

Norton will have the liability and the lack of taxes for the school and not have the use of the land. What a deal!

Let's use that money for water, sewer and roads!

[coventry resident]

Oh, I miss the days of arguing over issue 45 with ignorant people. Everytime you would run out of credible issues you would change the subject like you are doing now. Lake dorothy issues have nothing to do in relation to why Jones is going to get kicked out of office.

[Future of Norton]

Working from home are we?

[Coventry Resident]

Future of Norton wrote:

Working from home are we?

nope, work from work, live at home.

[Future of Norton]

Be aware everyone!

coventry resident and Coventry Resident has stated in the strip search blog that they do not use facts in their blogs.

Just wanted everyone to know.

[Coventry Resident]

Future of Norton wrote:

Be aware everyone!
coventry resident and Coventry Resident has stated in the strip search blog that they do not use facts in their blogs.
Just wanted everyone to know.

I think what I said is that if someone had facts in a case you probably wouldn't post them on a blog, would you? Let it come out in the courts, that is what they are for. You people without real facts have already convicted the police, and school district. You are a little too eager to jump on the pile to have fair and balanced opinions.

[RedPen]

Coventry Resident wrote:

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Some people may "lack credibility" because of Grammar. Unfortunately your side lacks credibility due to the fact that they have been consistently on the wrong side of most of the issues. We see your side speaking at council every week complaining and being critical of everything. Most people are just getting tired of hearing you complain. I think that people are just tired of Jones.

Grammar, punctuation, and spelling -- all make a difference in the REAL WORLD. I don't recall stating in the post that I was on a "side" so please do not make any assumptions. Personally, I am tired of all of you -- Hatfield’s vs. McCoy. Don't you just hate it when someone spots ignorance--it is an epidemic in Norton.

[Inquisitive]

Par for the course wrote:

I figured these comments would follow. These few people are just like he is - anything to cause problems. Tom and his cronies do not ask questions,which would be fine, instead you accuse! Administration should be running the City. This is what we pay them for. The elected officials are there, not as rubber stampers, but to create policy and do what the people want. The majority of our Council people do this. Tom tries to mico-manage.
It's time for him to go home and clean up his own property. Have you looked at it? Someone who can't take care of his own possessions, has not business trying to clean up others!

I'll address your comments in sections.
Councilman Jones asks more pertinent questions than anyone else sitting on Council. Many questions are asked from the podium; many times there are no answers or is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Why is that? Maybe Administration doesn't give all the information to Council and what they do get they have little time to actually read and absorb. Like they expect them to just say yes. Perhaps answers aren't given because the answers will not be well received. If the so called people making "accusations" have the wrong information, why isn't the correct information offered verbally then and there? Has it occured to you that the questions have already been asked and since Council and/or Administration are not telling the rest of the story those "problem causers" have little choice to bring it out for the people to know?

[Inquisitive]

Par for the course wrote:

I figured these comments would follow. These few people are just like he is - anything to cause problems. Tom and his cronies do not ask questions,which would be fine, instead you accuse! Administration should be running the City. This is what we pay them for. The elected officials are there, not as rubber stampers, but to create policy and do what the people want. The majority of our Council people do this. Tom tries to mico-manage.
It's time for him to go home and clean up his own property. Have you looked at it? Someone who can't take care of his own possessions, has not business trying to clean up others!

The Administration is not supposed to run the city they are there to advise, consult with and to carry out the wishes of Council and the Mayor. They are answerable and accountable to the elected officials, who are answerable and accountable to the people. They don't like the idea of being held accountable or questioned and that includes some from both bodies. Being held accountable and answering questions goes with all those seats, whether they and/or their "cronies" like it or not.

[Inquisitive]

Par for the course wrote:

I figured these comments would follow. These few people are just like he is - anything to cause problems. Tom and his cronies do not ask questions,which would be fine, instead you accuse! Administration should be running the City. This is what we pay them for. The elected officials are there, not as rubber stampers, but to create policy and do what the people want. The majority of our Council people do this. Tom tries to mico-manage.
It's time for him to go home and clean up his own property. Have you looked at it? Someone who can't take care of his own possessions, has not business trying to clean up others!

Do what the people want? Since when? The fire station/community center controversy is a perfect example. There were more people who spoke against the taking of the cc for the fire station than were in favor of it. Maybe you should check the agenda for the next Committee Work session and see how well they listened about how they spend our money. The people passed it so the Fire Department would have a new building and even though the Administration were making plans to combine the Fire and Police Departments before the levy ever went to ballot, nobody bothered mentioning that to Council or the people. Nothing was said to Council or the people about taking the Community Center for the Fire station either.
The Administrator presented his idea about the Community Center and then tried to push Council into passing that legislation, which was written specifically naming the Community Center. No matter that the Seniors and community groups that actually use the Community Center would have no place to go, after all, they don't pay anything to use it. What do you think the word COMMUNITY means? And who do you think actually paid for it? First it needed too many repairs and would be too expensive then it morphed into being unfunctional. There was money available every year to make repairs to the building and equipment. Wouldn't you think that some of the "unfunctional" features could have been addressed in 21 years? The same could be said for the current fire station. There's always been dollars put back for that also, yet the roof was allowed to get bad enough that it got to electrical equipment. Good thing it was at the fire station.

They said they will build a new Community Center for $35,000 more than the original. Does that sound feasible? Even using the cheaper materials they've already heard it would be much more than the $600,000 they've quoted. Which will also necessitate another LOAN.

[Inquisitive]

Par for the course wrote:

I figured these comments would follow. These few people are just like he is - anything to cause problems. Tom and his cronies do not ask questions,which would be fine, instead you accuse! Administration should be running the City. This is what we pay them for. The elected officials are there, not as rubber stampers, but to create policy and do what the people want. The majority of our Council people do this. Tom tries to mico-manage.
It's time for him to go home and clean up his own property. Have you looked at it? Someone who can't take care of his own possessions, has not business trying to clean up others!

Micro-manage? If that's what you want to call it, fine. There's a bunch of people up on Hazelwood and Connect as well as the state that should be thanking him then. Assessments were going to go out concerning the water lines there. That terrible Jones forced Administration to recheck their assessments by asking his "problem causing" questions. Turns out he was absolutely right. Most of the people AND the state were being overcharged about $1,000 a piece...some more. Why didn't the Administration that you are apparently so happy with catch that on their own?

[Inquisitive]

Par for the course wrote:

I figured these comments would follow. These few people are just like he is - anything to cause problems. Tom and his cronies do not ask questions,which would be fine, instead you accuse! Administration should be running the City. This is what we pay them for. The elected officials are there, not as rubber stampers, but to create policy and do what the people want. The majority of our Council people do this. Tom tries to mico-manage.
It's time for him to go home and clean up his own property. Have you looked at it? Someone who can't take care of his own possessions, has not business trying to clean up others!

They claimed they can get $200,000 for the current property where the station sits and that will offset the costs.$200,000 for a prime piece of commercial land that already has water and sewer available. It's worth much more. These things are all facts available by asking or checking. Facts that for the most part were brought out by those problem causing cronies and Tom Jones. The powers that be either didn't bother to look or just didn't tell. A few more "cronies" should be asking questions, getting facts and causing "problems" instead of following blindly. You should bother to take the time and actually check out a few things for yourself. It wouldn't hurt you to look at the Council rules and City Charter as well.