Trench collapse kills 1, injures anot...

Trench collapse kills 1, injures another in Pa.

There are 7 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Jan 5, 2011, titled Trench collapse kills 1, injures another in Pa.. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

Authorities say a trench collapse in eastern Pennsylvania has killed one construction worker and injured another.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The York Daily Record.

OSHA

York, PA

#1 Jan 5, 2011
Trench work isn't that hard to do properly.

It's only when low-bid, low-skill, usually non-union outfits like J.D. Eckman try to cut corners to save a buck that people get killed.

After a few of these contractors are convicted of manslaughter and end up in jail, the problem will resolve itself.
IBEW wife

Chambersburg, PA

#2 Jan 5, 2011
OSHA wrote:
Trench work isn't that hard to do properly.
It's only when low-bid, low-skill, usually non-union outfits like J.D. Eckman try to cut corners to save a buck that people get killed.
After a few of these contractors are convicted of manslaughter and end up in jail, the problem will resolve itself.
You know, everyone want to bash unions, but I believe they are the only contractors that are properly trained and don't cute corners. I am proud to say I am a union wife and not to say that accidents can't happen everywhere but at least I know my husband is qualified and trained for the tasks he is assigned. God Bless the families involved in this terrible tragedy.
open shop free market

Lebanon, PA

#3 Jan 12, 2011
This is a tragedy for all involved; however, the fact that the contractor is non-union has absolutely nothing to do with it.

The fact that most unions have outlived their usefulness and are a little more than directly responsible for the high cost of American made products and services (along with oppressive government regulation) is an issue to tackle. That the victim and his co-workers are non-union is not.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#4 Jan 12, 2011
It has everything to do with it.. A strong union would be there to tell the company that cutting corners for their profit is not going to happen..

The fact that many people view Unions negatively is due more to the BS that Corporations try to pull.

A good union looks out for its members.
Simple

York, PA

#5 Jan 12, 2011
kathwynn wrote:
It has everything to do with it.. A strong union would be there to tell the company that cutting corners for their profit is not going to happen..
The fact that many people view Unions negatively is due more to the BS that Corporations try to pull.
A good union looks out for its members.
Oh yea, a GOOD UNION (whatever THAT is)first looks out to fill officers pockets. If there is anything remaining, it filters down to the members and their proud wives. My exhaustive training and expertise is in BOXING. I am a cookie boxer for J.E. Stauffer Company. Not knowledgeable in "trench warfare", but when I travel past trench sites, I see these huge casings (or whatever they are called) that are supposedly to be placed in the freshly dug trenches. Were these workers just placing these casings or removing them when the accident occurred? What is so difficult about fining the 'be-Jesus' out of a company if they do not use them; even to the extent of putting them out of business. How many deaths by trench collapse must take place; this has been happening for decades!

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#6 Jan 12, 2011
Simple wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yea, a GOOD UNION (whatever THAT is)first looks out to fill officers pockets. If there is anything remaining, it filters down to the members and their proud wives. My exhaustive training and expertise is in BOXING. I am a cookie boxer for J.E. Stauffer Company. Not knowledgeable in "trench warfare", but when I travel past trench sites, I see these huge casings (or whatever they are called) that are supposedly to be placed in the freshly dug trenches. Were these workers just placing these casings or removing them when the accident occurred? What is so difficult about fining the 'be-Jesus' out of a company if they do not use them; even to the extent of putting them out of business. How many deaths by trench collapse must take place; this has been happening for decades!
Fining a company has really worked real well.. yep.. As the company laughs it off and goes right back to business as usual..

So lety just accept the fact that trenches collapse and do nothing about assuering safety.. lets not improve tech.. because trenches collapse and people die.. yep business as usual.. That is what you are post implies.

And unions lining their own pockets..

Here is a newsflash for you scooter.. A union is only as good as the people in it..

If the people in the union will not take ownership then the union will act like a leech.. Only when the workers themselves take ownership does the union work for the people..

Sadly too many workers refuse to take ownership of the very organization that protects and should be their advocate. If our fathers and grandfathers would have known what their sacrifice has come to, I think many of them would have been more active in sending the message down to the sons and grandsons of today..
Friendly Scooter

York, PA

#7 Jan 12, 2011
kathwynn wrote:
<quoted text>
Fining a company has really worked real well.. yep.. As the company laughs it off and goes right back to business as usual..
So lety just accept the fact that trenches collapse and do nothing about assuering safety.. lets not improve tech.. because trenches collapse and people die.. yep business as usual.. That is what you are post implies.
And unions lining their own pockets..
Here is a newsflash for you scooter.. A union is only as good as the people in it..
If the people in the union will not take ownership then the union will act like a leech.. Only when the workers themselves take ownership does the union work for the people..
Sadly too many workers refuse to take ownership of the very organization that protects and should be their advocate. If our fathers and grandfathers would have known what their sacrifice has come to, I think many of them would have been more active in sending the message down to the sons and grandsons of today..
Yea, right Scooter's FRIEND! One point was, "putting them out of existence if necessary", not just fining! We all know how stupid union leaders are. And remember who voted them into their positions. And you want these dumb a$$es to take ownership? Our forefathers were rather 'common sense' workers. Today, THEY would certainly understand the farce unions have turned into and do something about it, instead of continue to be brainwashed by supposed leaders! In attending many union meetings, it is an emBARE-A$$-MENT, listening to these folks you wish to take control. Why don't you follow your union jobs to China and make a real killin'. A GED would be in order for you as well!'Ya find Hoffa yet? Now there were some smart folks!

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Downingtown Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
glen mills schools (Sep '11) Aug 22 Parent 118
Good place to see the sun rise? Jul '16 Ellelli 1
News Pete Rose sues former baseball investigator ove... Jul '16 NRA 1
Poll Who is ruining american society? (Nov '07) Jul '16 Diego-619 118
In the rooms gossip suxi sux chit Jun '16 F u tress 1
nutjob bicyclist in west goshen Apr '16 Dr Gerald Demal 2
Inter County Rental Referrals SCAM! (Apr '14) Apr '16 Bill P 20

Downingtown Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Downingtown Mortgages