York County works to repair storm dam...

York County works to repair storm damage as experts investigate tornado possibility

There are 32 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Apr 17, 2011, titled York County works to repair storm damage as experts investigate tornado possibility. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

Meteorologists from the National Weather Service, along with several state and local officials, met Sunday afternoon to view the damage wreaked by Saturday night's storm, starting at the West Manchester Mall.

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been there

York, PA

#1 Apr 17, 2011
The amount of people in the mall on a saturday night? Lets see that mall,10 crack head kids !
Spokesman

York, PA

#2 Apr 17, 2011
been there wrote:
The amount of people in the mall on a saturday night? Lets see that mall,10 crack head kids !
Mall Officials: Thank God we got the 10 people out safely! It was quite the abnormally heavy workload for us as we usually don't see nearly that many people on a Saturday. Actually that is about as much as our yearly attendance figures so you can imagine how overwhelmed we were by this burdensome crowd!
Fail

York, PA

#3 Apr 17, 2011
"Nichols said his department was called to the mall at 8:25 p.m. Saturday after a large plastic glass skylight shattered."

Hmm...so was the skylight plastic or glass? Or was it plastic glass? What is plastic glass anyway? I guess we'll never know!
Chris Palm

York, PA

#4 Apr 17, 2011
If it had been a straight-line wind, how would that explain damage from winds obviously blowing from different directions? If it sounded like a tornado and acted like a tornado, perhaps the experts might reasonably conclude that it WAS a tornado.
Freddie Benson

Wellsville, OH

#5 Apr 17, 2011
If they see rotation on the radar, issue a tornado warning, and then there is this type of damage, why is there even a question if it was a tornado or not? Does it seem like there is some type of effort to make it seem like there are less tornados in the area? Why not just keep it real?
DickFitzwell

York, PA

#6 Apr 17, 2011
I wonder how many more garbage cans that mall had to bring in to catch the roof drippings ... maybe that crappy mall will finally get that embarrassment of a roof fixed.

On a serious note, glad to hear everybody escaped unharmed.
CJS

York, PA

#7 Apr 17, 2011
DickFitzwell wrote:
I wonder how many more garbage cans that mall had to bring in to catch the roof drippings ... maybe that crappy mall will finally get that embarrassment of a roof fixed.
On a serious note, glad to hear everybody escaped unharmed.
Isn't that the truth!
panicked

Swarthmore, PA

#8 Apr 17, 2011
Sgt. Peter Haines ruled the straight line windows as a F73 Tornado! You could hear it in his voiceeeeee!
Tom C

Bainbridge, PA

#9 Apr 17, 2011
You guys are wrong,it was a tornado,i seen with my own eyes not more than a quarter mile away!
Tom C

Bainbridge, PA

#10 Apr 17, 2011
NOT a TORNADO are you kidding me I seen it myself with witness .go look at the damage it caused at the intersection of carlisle and brougher steets going in to the mall & holiday inn I saw it first hand, that my friend WAS A TORNAAAAAAADO ,unless spinning spirals of heavy wind are not tornadoes!!!!!
YC Resident

York, PA

#11 Apr 17, 2011
It had to be a tornando, I live about 5 minutes from the west manchester mall. I went to look outside because i could hear a distant roar and it was pitch black, tree branches breaking all around. We couldn't see either of the street lights or any other lights on the block at all and no we did not lose power at all. Then a friend of the family was at burger king and he swears when they walked out of there you could see the funnel coming down. He's not sure if actually touched though because they ran back inside to take cover....As scary as it was, driving by today and seeing the port-a-potty in peices was funny.....
Just a hunch

Lancaster, PA

#12 Apr 17, 2011
My bet is that they didn't call it tornado damage so the federal govt doesn't have to shell out any money. No loss of life, not extensive damage, relatively well-to-do area with insurance coverage are my bets on why this was not declared a tornado. The money will be spent on the major damage areas down south. This was a political decision, not a scientific one. Too bad one of the witnesses couldn't get a picture to shove it into the face of those bureaucrats.
Confused

Reading, PA

#13 Apr 17, 2011
So...if the straight line winds were blowing NorthEast (roughly following Brougher Ln) then why were trees and debris in that area strewn in other directions too? It was an EF-0, they just don't want to admit it.
Jaded Local

York, PA

#14 Apr 17, 2011
Weather service is smoking crack. Go to the back of Target. There is a straight line of downed trees thrown in different directions straight across to the other side of 74. That was the second touch down of the same tornado that trashed all the utility poles and bleachers by Derry Park.... the one with the mass of swirling sheets of rain that went right past our back window!

Tax dollars hard at work hiring expert retards.
Garbage Man

York, PA

#15 Apr 17, 2011
DickFitzwell wrote:
I wonder how many more garbage cans that mall had to bring in to catch the roof drippings ... maybe that crappy mall will finally get that embarrassment of a roof fixed.
On a serious note, glad to hear everybody escaped unharmed.
They ditched the garbage can idea and just brought in a bunch of kiddie pools instead. An attraction now referred to as the West Manchester Mall cesspool.

They said there had to be 1000 gashes in the roof from the skylight which I doubt will ever be fixed. And the legacy of the West Manchester Mall garbage can roof drippings lives on!
Gashes-Trains-La undry

York, PA

#16 Apr 18, 2011
Garbage Man wrote:
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They ditched the garbage can idea and just brought in a bunch of kiddie pools instead. An attraction now referred to as the West Manchester Mall cesspool.
They said there had to be 1000 gashes in the roof from the skylight which I doubt will ever be fixed. And the legacy of the West Manchester Mall garbage can roof drippings lives on!
Wrong! You'll NEVER see 1000 gashes at WMM at one time, even during the height of Christmas shopping season. If that was not a tornado, then someone installed a railroad track three (3) feet behind my kitchen window when the noise from that sucker (no pun intended) swooshed by! Tell you one thing, there will most certainly be extra underwear in most Monday laundry hampers where we live here on Taxville Road, WMT, York County, York, PA!!!$hit man!!! Close call!!! Henceforth, I would highly recommend that the NWS add DEPENDS to that TRAIN WARNING sound!
Jeff

New Freedom, PA

#17 Apr 18, 2011
I thought there was a confirmed sighting/touchdown from Law Enforcement? So now the Weather Service doubts the police?

Since: Feb 08

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#18 Apr 18, 2011
Jaded Local wrote:
Weather service is smoking crack. Go to the back of Target. There is a straight line of downed trees thrown in different directions straight across to the other side of 74. That was the second touch down of the same tornado that trashed all the utility poles and bleachers by Derry Park.... the one with the mass of swirling sheets of rain that went right past our back window!
Tax dollars hard at work hiring expert retards.
A down burst would cause debris to be thrown in all directions and usually creat straight line winds then.
Say No To Baby Factories

East Berlin, PA

#19 Apr 18, 2011
DFBHD wrote:
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A down burst would cause debris to be thrown in all directions and usually creat straight line winds then.
Finally a voice of reason. WE here in York have experts in every field that in reality know absolutely nothing. They thought that was a storm and deserves Federal response. It was some wind and rain. Go to Kansas to see real storms and damage.
Jaded Local

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Apr 18, 2011
DFBHD wrote:
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A down burst would cause debris to be thrown in all directions and usually creat straight line winds then.
A microburst or downburst causes debris to radiate out from a central point. They do not have clearly defined paths nor does debris that was on one side of the damage are wind up on the opposite side.

The debris field at Sheetz has a well defined along with objects that crossed the path. The severed poles on Taxville were thrown in various directions. There was a STRONG rotation seen on radar AND eye witnesses (like myself) who saw the damn thing.

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