EXTRA: USF police need help, Presiden...

EXTRA: USF police need help, President breaks silence

There are 53 comments on the WTSP Tampa Bay story from Sep 5, 2007, titled EXTRA: USF police need help, President breaks silence. In it, WTSP Tampa Bay reports that:

The fall semester is in full-swing at the University of South Florida and President Judy Genshaft is all smiles.

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ELSYAAH

AOL

#1 Sep 5, 2007
39 officers try again, there are less than 20 actually out on patrol, now split that Number by 4 squads and you'll see the reason why USF needs help. Also, 50,000 is low ball. Add staff,visitors, 2, soon to be 3 hospitals, their staffs and patients, two elemenary schools, daycare centers, assorted stores, banks, post office, the Sundome, a hotel.

I think Judy Genshaft really needs to face reality and not run away from it like she did tonight.

Everyone not only students are at risk and EVERYONE should demand to know why USF puts all of us at risk.

WELL JUDY???? I'd like to hear a real answer from YOU not Beady eyed Ken.
S Riege

Tianjin, China

#2 Sep 5, 2007
I think President Genshaft could take a pay reduction and put that money towards campus security....
Wingman

Saint Petersburg, FL

#3 Sep 6, 2007
The last meeting was an absolute joke as are all of our other meetings over the past years. They are not interested in helping on placing low-key threats directed at keeping those still here quiet and lifeless. We are losing officers at an alarming rate, it will continue and I have already placed my paperwork out at other agencies. USFPD is nothing more than a joke right now. We have the oldest building on campus (a converted house that has more additions than a lego set), We have no step plan, We are without take home incentives and our squads that would help dramatically are not staffed due to us working with a skeleton crew on the road. A boat sits dry, the motorcycles sit covered, the mountainbikes sit hanging in the shed. All of these items combined with our Chief's excellent vision would get our department going in the right direction but yet we have no bodies to fill our spots. This is a broken record and I do not see the light... To all of the other officers that continue to hang on with hope of improvements and funding, God bless you all and I hope you find a place for your future and your families...
Marcus

Tampa, FL

#4 Sep 6, 2007
If someone does what Seung-Hui Cho did at Virginia Tech, I hope I'm not on this campus. Even then, I work at USF and I have some friends who either work or study there and I worry about their safety. There's no excuse for finding money for the administators and not finding any money for the people who protect them and everyone else who's on USF's campus. Given that Judy Genshaft is responsible for everything that goes on at USF--including campus security--seeing her take her lavaliere mic off when Alexandra Hackett asked her about funding the USFPD from within the University's budget is a horrible reflection on Genshaft, who seems to be the only one under the sun who doesn't get it.
Dylan

Ruskin, FL

#5 Sep 6, 2007
The times they are a changing.

Judy better realize her main, maybe only, goal at the moment is to build a world class safe environment. Because of all the links to terrorism her property is potentially a magnet for trouble. Her goal, at the moment, should not be to build a big time reasearch university, not to finese reporters, not to hope for the best, but to lead the way to do everything she can to draw attention to the risk and to funnell all her energy and funds to safety.

Common sense, gal.
USF Staff Member

United States

#6 Sep 6, 2007
Explain to me please just exactly the justification for hiring a national consultant at how many hundreds of thousands of dollars when we have the expertise right on campus? The current chief of Police, Chief Longo hit the ground running from day one on campus. He has been trying to rebuild this police department and bring it up to the necessary level only to hit one brick wall after another and deaf ears. He has told the administration exactly what is needed to secure the USF campus and they don't believe him. I guess the years of experience and the JD degree mean nothing??? You don't need a Ph.D to be an "expert" in your field. In this era of "budget cuts and restraints" how can they possibly think that paying a national consultant is prudent? How many full time (NOT ONE YEAR GRANT FUNDED) officers could you hire with that same money that will go to the consultant!! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE PEOPLE - IT'S TIME FOR RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP!

“To Protect And Serve”

Since: Aug 07

Trenton N.J

#7 Sep 6, 2007
I think it's time to give Genshaft the shaft!!!!!Get her out NOW!!!!
wisegui

O Fallon, MO

#8 Sep 6, 2007
As a student, Id like to see some of my tuition money (or some of that fat endowment) go towards some safety upgrades
chet

Clearwater, FL

#9 Sep 6, 2007
When somebody does something like this they must be acting strange in advance. You don't need a police force to prevent it, just a system for students to report it and a people to check it out. Everybody else is just there for an education.
USF Staff Member

Tampa, FL

#10 Sep 6, 2007
The students and their parents need to have their voices heard on this NOW! The Administration will only listen to the money train - the parents! Student's alert your parents and encourage them to pay attention to this issue and speak out!
Scott at USF

Largo, FL

#13 Sep 6, 2007
She is clearly either completely ignorant of the threat the school faces, or doesn't care about the students and faculty. In either case, she needs to be replaced, and have her future as an administrator in any capacity seriously looked at. Not only is she under-staffing the only organic protection the campus has, but she is doing nothing about the cultivation of Islamic terrorism within her own faculty and students.
Concerned Mom in GA

United States

#14 Sep 6, 2007
I am very concerned about the lack of concern this University president shows about the security of the kids on the campus. With the incidents of crime might be down statiscally, it does not reflect the true picture of campus security. If the police department itself is saying it cannot handle a VT type of incident, the president should be VERY concerned with it. She is starting to show her true colors, and I would investigate where the money that should be going to the police is really going! I live in GA, and will start looking shortly at schools for my child, I will NOT be looking at USF due to this security problem and I am letting MANY people know about what is going on, this is really ridiculous.
Another Staff Member

Tampa, FL

#15 Sep 6, 2007
There is more to this story than just the officers. The 911 dispatchers that work at USF are overtasked, underappreciated(as evidenced by the lack of attention) and extremely underpaid compaired to their counterparts in the County and City. USF PD is losing highly trained 911 dispatchers at a high rate just like the officers. A story needs to be done about them!

They too are heros.

The true first responders to every emergency regardless of agency!
Counterpoint

Tampa, FL

#16 Sep 6, 2007
All the cops in the world couldn't have prevented the Va. Tech tragedy. Remember, it was the cops there that failed to notify the rest of the campus of the 1st two shootings in the dorm. Random psychos like Cho can be anywhere, but fortunately, they are rare. Let's keep some perspective here and not engage in scare tactics. I'm sure the campus police could use a few more positions, but I fail to see how a step plan, incentives and a new building will keep students and faculty any safer. A lot of the funding for new buildings and projects on campus comes from grants, so why isn't that good enough for campus police? Let's face it: USFPD doesn't have the same amount of territory to cover or population to deal with that city and county cops do, so why should they be paid like them? USFPD, like TIAPD, have always been entry-level, stepping stone jobs for people in law enforcement. Always will be.
Informed

Tampa, FL

#19 Sep 6, 2007
Counterpoint wrote:
All the cops in the world couldn't have prevented the Va. Tech tragedy. Remember, it was the cops there that failed to notify the rest of the campus of the 1st two shootings in the dorm. Random psychos like Cho can be anywhere, but fortunately, they are rare. Let's keep some perspective here and not engage in scare tactics. I'm sure the campus police could use a few more positions, but I fail to see how a step plan, incentives and a new building will keep students and faculty any safer. A lot of the funding for new buildings and projects on campus comes from grants, so why isn't that good enough for campus police? Let's face it: USFPD doesn't have the same amount of territory to cover or population to deal with that city and county cops do, so why should they be paid like them? USFPD, like TIAPD, have always been entry-level, stepping stone jobs for people in law enforcement. Always will be.
Counterpoint - I agree that all of the attention about a random shooter is disproportinate, however the street level concerns of USF Police are real. Your analogy of TIAPD and USFPD is irrelevant. When USFPD had a competative step pay plan the turnover rate was similar to neighboring agencies. In fact we had officers leave other local agencies to join USFPD. This is not to say they were not good candidates for law enforcement, but that there is a very specific need in our enforcemetn venue. TIA is basicaly an extension of a checkpoint. USFPD is part of dynamic community that brings in all walks of life - from inner city gangbangers to Presidents of the United States. We have washed out trainees because that they did not pass muster for our unique needs who were successful at other local departments. USFPD is not the same as a municipal PD, but it is not less. Why is it that in the past USFPD officers were asked to provide training to local municipal agencies? Because when the agency had competative pay, nationally sought expertice was developed and nourished within the agency-benefitting the entire university community. This has all been squandered by shortchanging the budget.
Land O Lakes

Lake Hamilton, FL

#20 Sep 6, 2007
Capt Jim wrote:
I think it's time to give Genshaft the shaft!!!!!Get her out NOW!!!!
Shaft Genshaft!!! Get her out of USF along with the consultant. Let the Police chief do his job. Take his recommendations and apply them. If after all his input the campus has not improved then bring in the consultant.

We need protest signs all over campus that say Shaft Genshaft!!!
Joe

Lady Lake, FL

#23 Sep 6, 2007
Another, save-a-buck bureaucrat. These University Presidents aren’t chosen for their leadership, just their cost cutting willingness.

What a worthless bonehead – get her out and get someone in there who will get the job done.

Saftey costs money – deal with it – spend what is needed.

President Judy Genshaft – if a Virgina Tech incident happens or one of your Middle-East endowment students decides to go Al Qaeda – I hope the media plays your inane money conscience comments over and over again on the nightly news.

PULL YOUR HEAD OUT AND DO YOUR JOB!
Ralph

Tampa, FL

#24 Sep 6, 2007
Typical double talk from our President. At the same time USF is cutting budgets and reducing services including security. We aree not supprised she walked out of the interview when confronted with the facts. Just read the excerpts e-mail below from the administration recived today by employees.
From: Khator, Renu
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 12:43 PM
To: Academic Affairs-College Faculty; Academic Affairs-Unit Faculty
Cc: Academic Affairs-College Staff; Academic Affairs-Unit Staff
Subject: Update on Issues -- September 2007
Now let’s turn to some pragmatic issues:
Budget Reduction: Earlier we had completed a plan to take 4% budget reduction; however, we have been told that an additional budget reduction in the range of 2% to 6% is unavoidable. I have charged the Budget Priorities Advisory Taskforce to evaluate all centers, institutes, programs and departments on four criteria -- quality, centrality, demand, and sustainability – and make recommendation for programmatic elimination, consolidation or reduction to me.

Renu Khator
Provost and Senior Vice President
University of South Florida
USF POLICE

Bradenton, FL

#25 Sep 6, 2007
It is obvious and always has been that Genshaft and her administration has no interest or desire to have a police dept. They clearly spout rhetoric and act like they are concerned. They are not and they have proven that time and time again. Her priority continues to be growing USF into the #1 research institution in the country. She fails to realize that in order to due that the support departments must grow as well. I am afraid at what might occur if this neglect continues. I will not be sending my child to USF when they reach that age, it is unsafe and is not a concern to them at all.
The reason crime is down 11 percent is the fact there are no longer enough officers to enforce the laws. Less officers = Less arrests = crime down. As usual they spin spin spin.
To the USF staff, faculty , and students. Be very afraid each moment you are on campus. Because the unarmed security that they feel will fix the problem is a joke. And there are not enough of us to do an adequete job.
Good Luck
Staff member

Bradenton, FL

#26 Sep 6, 2007
THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT ALL THE TERRORISTS THEY HOUSE. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE STUDENTS, THEY JUST DO NOT CARE AT ALL.

AND OBVIOUSLY NOR DOES THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, THEY KEEP SUPPORTING HER. THEY ALONE CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM. I URGE STAFF, AND PARENTS TO CONTACT THEM NOW !!!!

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