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THE LAW IS THE LAW

So, "if" the US government determines that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it.

And "if" that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions.

I would like to think that those people have the American public's best interests at heart.

BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE?

Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot post His Commandments in Government buildings, I don't believe the Government and its employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life.

I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving and Easter. After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving and Easter as well as Sundays. After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." After all it's just another day.

I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices and services would work on Christmas, Good Friday and Easter. It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct."

In fact....

I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day....

What do you all think????

If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the "minority opinions" and begin, once again, to represent the "majority" of ALL of the American people.

SO BE IT..........
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Dec 26, 2009
 
GAPatriot65 wrote:
THE LAW IS THE LAW
So, "if" the US government determines that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it.
And "if" that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it.
I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen.
I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions.
I would like to think that those people have the American public's best interests at heart.
BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE?
Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot post His Commandments in Government buildings, I don't believe the Government and its employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life.
I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving and Easter. After all, it's just another day.
I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving and Easter as well as Sundays. After all, it's just another day.
I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." After all it's just another day.
I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices and services would work on Christmas, Good Friday and Easter. It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct."
In fact....
I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day....
What do you all think????
If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the "minority opinions" and begin, once again, to represent the "majority" of ALL of the American people.
SO BE IT..........
And that is your opinion, SO BE IT!

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Dec 26, 2009
 
This was an email I received today - and I thought it was interesting. Thought I would share and get some others insights on it.
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GP, I think it's silly... no offense to you intended, I just think there's more to worry about than that.

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Dec 26, 2009
 
No doubt Mike that there are more important things to deal with. Again - it's just to provoke some thought - and not everything has to be so serious.
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Although some may think this is not important enough at this particular time to receive consideration, my feeling is that it IS worth considering. I agree with post #1. Afterall, many people are excused from work for religious reasons, so why not excuse Christians from work for their particular holidays and require the others to work instead of allowing those who aren't Christians to ride on the backs of those who are and receive time off while at the same time criticizing their beliefs. I think the fallout would be interesting. Just my opinion.
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I want beer
Every day of the year.
All this religious posturing ... I think I will go throw up now.

It seems the Christians spend their time watching every little thing to protect their turf. Must be a problem here or their turf wouldn't need protecting.

I like the idea of mail being delivered every day. If they are going to fill my mailbox with Atlanta Journal Constitution crap and spam of other kinds on regular days, which violates my right to not get this kind of stuff, then they can get their butts over here on Christmas, Easter and any other so-called sacred day.

And if not, then ban the Journal Constitution from delivering anything to anybody's house without explicit permission. This has got to stop.
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why is beer not sold on sunday? its just another day.Why is the court house closed on sunday?
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Dec 27, 2009
 
mike wrote:
GP, I think it's silly... no offense to you intended, I just think there's more to worry about than that.
""this forum is free discussion"", is it not mike? Why would somebody that makes a statement like that (( http://www.topix.com/forum/city/douglasville-... )) be concerned at all with what GAP is posting?

Hmmm, ""Hey Kettle, This Is Pot!!!""

More to the point, I agree with the thought behind the first message of this thread.

Recent events have given new meaning to the phrase, "The Constitution is a living document." I never thought "Social Balancing" programs would be taken to the extremes thay have been gone.

Hey, I'm all for giving a hand up. But, when my "Quality Of Life" starts to be intruded on, I take offense.
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GAPatriot65 wrote:
THE LAW IS THE LAW
So, "if" the US government determines that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it.
And "if" that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it.
I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen.
I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions.
I would like to think that those people have the American public's best interests at heart.
Now that's just silly. You'd think someone considering a government position would see that.
Mr. Patriot, I have rights. The same as you. This is my country, the same as yours. I belong here by birth. And by my actions. Unfortunately, I think your God/Jesus thing is the biggest pile of tripe ever foisted on such a herd of deserving sheep. And I am not alone. There are also folks, with just as much claim to this country as you an I, who believe in different Gods, different end game scenarios.
And yet we are all Americans. This great country is NOT a theocracy. Perhaps our founders were Christians, on the main, but that was not the intent to create a Christian theocracy. It's not in the Declaration (the phrase 'their Creator' is rather telling) nor is it in the Constitution.
This is my country, Mr. Patriot. Yes, I am in a minority, but it is just as much mine as yours. It is also my family's...
I do NOT want my kids force fed this pablum you call God. I want them to think for themselves, I want them to reach their own decisions on their faith and how they view God. Thankfully, they are not force fed this sh*t in public schools. Thankfully, they spend their money so fast I don't think they even have time to read the 'In God We Trust' which was so recently added.(Also telling that our currency did not start OUT with that phrase on it.)
Prayer is allowed in school. It's just not enforced and required of all kids. As it should be.
You can post your Ten Commandments all over your property. Indeed, you can even tattoo it on your body if you want. But out of deference to citizens of different beliefs, it should not be displayed in Government buildings. Which is as it should be.
It is unfortunate when the Majority cannot set aside its own agenda out of RESPECT for a minority. The United States does have a sad history of doing that very thing though: race, women's rights, sexual preferences...
And your post shows just how little we've grown. It's kind of daunting and sad to see how far we have yet to go.
(And as to working on those holidays, the idea is so silly I'm not going to even address it. Really, Mr. Patriot...)

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Dec 27, 2009
 
Gee Contrarian - tell us how you really feel - don't hold back.
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Now that's just silly. You'd think someone considering a government position would see that.
Mr. Patriot, I have rights. The same as you. This is my country, the same as yours. I belong here by birth. And by my actions. Unfortunately, I think your God/Jesus thing is the biggest pile of tripe ever foisted on such a herd of deserving sheep. And I am not alone. There are also folks, with just as much claim to this country as you an I, who believe in different Gods, different end game scenarios.
And yet we are all Americans. This great country is NOT a theocracy. Perhaps our founders were Christians, on the main, but that was not the intent to create a Christian theocracy. It's not in the Declaration (the phrase 'their Creator' is rather telling) nor is it in the Constitution.
This is my country, Mr. Patriot. Yes, I am in a minority, but it is just as much mine as yours. It is also my family's...
I do NOT want my kids force fed this pablum you call God. I want them to think for themselves, I want them to reach their own decisions on their faith and how they view God. Thankfully, they are not force fed this sh*t in public schools. Thankfully, they spend their money so fast I don't think they even have time to read the 'In God We Trust' which was so recently added.(Also telling that our currency did not start OUT with that phrase on it.)
Prayer is allowed in school. It's just not enforced and required of all kids. As it should be.
You can post your Ten Commandments all over your property. Indeed, you can even tattoo it on your body if you want. But out of deference to citizens of different beliefs, it should not be displayed in Government buildings. Which is as it should be.
It is unfortunate when the Majority cannot set aside its own agenda out of RESPECT for a minority. The United States does have a sad history of doing that very thing though: race, women's rights, sexual preferences...
And your post shows just how little we've grown. It's kind of daunting and sad to see how far we have yet to go.
(And as to working on those holidays, the idea is so silly I'm not going to even address it. Really, Mr. Patriot...)

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In all seriousness Contrarian - I believe the thought behind the post is an accurate one.

I believe that if we are going to be politically correct and remove the Christian God from the public forum, one that has a distinct impact on our heritage over the past 200+ years, then lets do it fully.

The Federal Government should not recognize any holiday connected to the Judeo-Christian God whatsoever. They should hold those holidays as standard work days, just as they do other religions. They give people who hold those beliefs exception to take the day off - and thus - that is how Christian holidays should be handled to, if we were to take this PC to it's fullest.

I don't give a hoot about how you feel about my choice of God, for it doesn't affect my FAITH in any manner. I don't try to force it on anyone.

And I would like you to show me one school where prayer is allowed.

I believe silent prayer should be allowed regardless of faith - but the atheists get all uncomfortable with that. I wonder if it is because they think they are missing something?

But regardless - you are right - i the fact your children should be able to choose for themselves. I hope you are keeping an open mind and allowing ALL Possibilities, including Christianity, and giving them full disclosure. Because if you do anything to dissuade them from looking at Christianity, then your whole argument falls apart.

Christians do think for themselves. We simply believe there is a higher power than us, and that through Him we have the strength and ability to deal with our lives here until the day we join Him. It doesn't stop me from looking at various issues of the day and weighing all the facts and options.

The majority doesn't have to set aside its own Agenda as you call it - the minority (not racial minority) voices of an issue is finding ways to circumvent the principles and beliefs of a majority and force their agenda on the rest of this nation quite effectively.

And I don't see America benefiting from it at all.
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Dec 27, 2009
 
I don't believe that schools should have church held on Sundays in them either if the government doesn't want anything to do with God!
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Dec 27, 2009
 
Get polling places out of the churches, too.
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Dec 27, 2009
 
GetDown wrote:
<quoted text>""this forum is free discussion"", is it not mike? Why would somebody that makes a statement like that (( http://www.topix.com/forum/city/douglasville-... )) be concerned at all with what GAP is posting?
Hmmm, ""Hey Kettle, This Is Pot!!!""
Get down, if that's the best you can do in finding a place where I don't believe in free discussion on this forum, I guess i don't have to worry about your opinion.(reference, another post you have traced)

I happen to like Ga Patriot. His statement was, what do others think of that email; I gave him my opinion.

If you have some kind of problem with me, why don't you just come out and tell us what it is, because I'm at a loss how someone would get the impression I believe, in any way, that anyone on this blog doesn't have the right to say whatever they choose to say, within the framework of the topix blog owners.

So, tell me: what is your problem with me.
More to the point, I agree with the thought behind the first message of this thread.
Recent events have given new meaning to the phrase, "The Constitution is a living document." I never thought "Social Balancing" programs would be taken to the extremes thay have been gone.
Hey, I'm all for giving a hand up. But, when my "Quality Of Life" starts to be intruded on, I take offense.
To Ga Patriot: I agree with the email also, but what difference does it make? Or more to the point, what difference WILL it make. Government is manned with millions of hypocrites, those who want the masses to act a certain way, but refuse to do so themselves. That's not about to change. The complaint in that email to you, will not be dealt with.
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Dec 27, 2009
 
Strange indeed...
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Dec 28, 2009
 
I agree with doing a way with it.
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Dec 29, 2009
 
I believe that regardless of religious holidays and religion and the "separate church from state" arguments, there is a place in our society for tradition and celebration. Tradition tells us that we are connected to our forefathers and mothers and that some things go way beyond opinion, they are sacred in their own right.

Holidays or "holy days" are a celebration of what connects us as humans to people from the past and people in the future.
It is right that we should have a year end traditional celebration and honor our friends, neighbors and those who have contributed to our lives during the year. Christmas may embody the birth of Christ, but the holidays also embody a closure of the year, a summary of events, a time to reconsider what is important in life, and a time to praise those who have made life better for you during the year.
Regardless of what you believe in terms of our Maker, whether you believe in God or Allah or Satan or no deity or in nothing at all, there is a place in our society for tradition, for finding and sharing meanings, for holding things dear.

So, although I respect and understand the arguments here about whether the government should act in a "black and white" fashion, either yes or no, there is a human element that goes beyond religion or government, a trait that binds us all to the past and the future and that is "tradition and celebration."

There is no law that can be passed to do away with those and I feel that every private citizen, every government employee, EVERYONE has a right to the continuum of history and the right to hold things dear in a certain way. As soon as we lose the meaning of what we hold dear, we lose our humaninty and turn into robots. And that is a useless way to be, because we have a right to value our lives, our time on earth and our journey with each other, and we have a right to revere our ancesters and hope for our children's children's children.

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Dec 29, 2009
 
Well said Crabapple
Crabapple wrote:
I believe that regardless of religious holidays and religion and the "separate church from state" arguments, there is a place in our society for tradition and celebration. Tradition tells us that we are connected to our forefathers and mothers and that some things go way beyond opinion, they are sacred in their own right.
Holidays or "holy days" are a celebration of what connects us as humans to people from the past and people in the future.
It is right that we should have a year end traditional celebration and honor our friends, neighbors and those who have contributed to our lives during the year. Christmas may embody the birth of Christ, but the holidays also embody a closure of the year, a summary of events, a time to reconsider what is important in life, and a time to praise those who have made life better for you during the year.
Regardless of what you believe in terms of our Maker, whether you believe in God or Allah or Satan or no deity or in nothing at all, there is a place in our society for tradition, for finding and sharing meanings, for holding things dear.
So, although I respect and understand the arguments here about whether the government should act in a "black and white" fashion, either yes or no, there is a human element that goes beyond religion or government, a trait that binds us all to the past and the future and that is "tradition and celebration."
There is no law that can be passed to do away with those and I feel that every private citizen, every government employee, EVERYONE has a right to the continuum of history and the right to hold things dear in a certain way. As soon as we lose the meaning of what we hold dear, we lose our humaninty and turn into robots. And that is a useless way to be, because we have a right to value our lives, our time on earth and our journey with each other, and we have a right to revere our ancesters and hope for our children's children's children.
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Now that's just silly. You'd think someone considering a government position would see that.
Mr. Patriot, I have rights. The same as you. This is my country, the same as yours. I belong here by birth. And by my actions. Unfortunately, I think your God/Jesus thing is the biggest pile of tripe ever foisted on such a herd of deserving sheep. And I am not alone. There are also folks, with just as much claim to this country as you an I, who believe in different Gods, different end game scenarios.
You do have rights, but so do us God loving folks. This country was founded (I know you'll argue that fact) by people that were looking for religious freedom, freedom from overzealous taxation and freedom to earn a living. Christian beliefs are embedded in our government. The statement of keeping state and religion separate only means to keep the government from getting involved in Church matters. The founding fathers wanted small government. Now, the government is way too large and it infringes on our right to follow our religion in the way we see fit. The very reason it says "In God We Trust" on our money, is because this was a very religious country at one time. Just because people like you have changed, shouldn't mean our country should change. The vast majority still believe in God. We don't want prayer taken out of schools. We feel it helps children to learn and have a more peaceful out look on life. Since prayer has left our schools, there is more violence. Schools are more like prisons than places of learning.

You are a minority. Why should our country cow tow to you? Just because religion bothers you. Atheists bother me. How would you feel if I decided that it's my right to be Christian and we should get rid of all Atheists and their silly non-beliefs? How would you feel?

By the way, you're correct. You are not alone, and when you die, you'll not be alone even then.

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