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#2 Sep 22, 2012
From Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/democrats-political-sla...

"Democrats quickly leaped on the documents, saying Romney had claimed fewer deductions than he was entitled to just to keep his rate at such a level."

So the guy does something where he's not taking complete advantage of a situation and the Democrats bitch about that?

Ironic, or what?

LMAO.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Destin, FL

#3 Sep 22, 2012
Whta do the LWDL's think is a fair share tax system?

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#4 Sep 22, 2012
General Robert E Lee wrote:
Whta do the LWDL's think is a fair share tax system?
The evil rich pay all, the libs pay nothing?

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Destin, FL

#5 Sep 22, 2012
Bill in Dville wrote:
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The evil rich pay all, the libs pay nothing?
I have never received an answer to that question from the democrats, have you?

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#6 Sep 22, 2012
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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I have never received an answer to that question from the democrats, have you?
No, I haven't.

To be brutally honest, though, I don't expect to get one. I think you need to understand the current tax system (which includes income, adjusted gross income, taxable income, deductions, credits, capital gains and all the other stuff) to be able to suggest something else that is reasonable and logistically possible. Unfortunately, I don't see that in this forum. Do you?

That being said, someone (I don't remember who) had posted in the last several weeks something about a "flat tax rate for all", but I don't remember if it was in here or the Atlanta threads. I'd be OK with that, taking out the myriad of deductions, credits, exceptions, etc. that make it so difficult to work with.

Some people just like to complain about stuff, but can't offer anything of substance as an alternative.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Destin, FL

#7 Sep 23, 2012
Bill in Dville wrote:
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No, I haven't.
To be brutally honest, though, I don't expect to get one. I think you need to understand the current tax system (which includes income, adjusted gross income, taxable income, deductions, credits, capital gains and all the other stuff) to be able to suggest something else that is reasonable and logistically possible. Unfortunately, I don't see that in this forum. Do you?
That being said, someone (I don't remember who) had posted in the last several weeks something about a "flat tax rate for all", but I don't remember if it was in here or the Atlanta threads. I'd be OK with that, taking out the myriad of deductions, credits, exceptions, etc. that make it so difficult to work with.
Some people just like to complain about stuff, but can't offer anything of substance as an alternative.
The LWLD's talk "fair share" at very opportunity. I don't care if they know anything about our tax system, I just want them to explain what they mean, and how much is a "fair share".
torqued

Douglasville, GA

#8 Sep 23, 2012
I would ask you: Is 9% on $13,700,000.00 what Republicans consider a fair share? Is 0% a fair share?

And if those amounts are a fair share, why is the middle-class and working class expected to pay more than that?

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#9 Sep 23, 2012
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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The LWLD's talk "fair share" at very opportunity. I don't care if they know anything about our tax system, I just want them to explain what they mean, and how much is a "fair share".
Between the Douglasville and Atlanta forums, I'm sure I have asked someone to define "fair share" and asked if the understood why a "rich" person's total cumulative tax rate on ALL types of income was lower than theirs at least 20 times (some more than once).

Still no takers, although I'm not surprised. It's easier to repeat the party line than learn why it's not accurate.

They talk "fair share" because it's an easily understood "comment", even though it's not accurate. Us against them. Wealth envy rearing it's ugly head.

IMHO, it's like telling the (partial) truth, but not the whole truth and the whole story. What's funny is that people believe it without knowing how are why it's wrong. Must be the koolaid intoxication...

BTW, unless the long term capital gains tax rate is increased into the mid 30%+ range, we're going to continue to have this (clueless and uneducated) conversation...

Also, please refresh my memory (or educate me): what is LWLD?

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#10 Sep 23, 2012
Some people just like to complain about stuff, but can't offer anything of substance as an alternative.
torqued

Douglasville, GA

#11 Sep 23, 2012
Bill in Dville wrote:
Some people just like to complain about stuff, but can't offer anything of substance as an alternative.
For once you've offered proof to one of your claims! All one must do to see the truth of your statement is read your and Synergies posts!

For once we agree!
torqued

Douglasville, GA

#12 Sep 23, 2012
Bill in Dville wrote:
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what is LWLD?
It must be said venomously to have the proper effect: Left Wing Liberal Democrats.

The intent is to give the impression that those words actually carry negative connotations, as opposed to indicating fair and forward thinking, as they actually do. Just another Republican hate strategy.
torqued

Douglasville, GA

#13 Sep 23, 2012
torqued wrote:
I would ask you: Is 9% on $13,700,000.00 what Republicans consider a fair share? Is 0% a fair share?
And if those amounts are a fair share, why is the middle-class and working class expected to pay more than that?
You mentioned that you can't seem to get an answer to your questions. I'm having the same problem.

I'm not asking if the above percentages are legal, I'm asking if it's fair.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Destin, FL

#14 Sep 24, 2012
torqued wrote:
I would ask you: Is 9% on $13,700,000.00 what Republicans consider a fair share? Is 0% a fair share?
And if those amounts are a fair share, why is the middle-class and working class expected to pay more than that?
I believe the tax code is a mess, and needs to be thrown out. In order to replace it, there are some things we need to know. Once more, what do you cinsider a "fair share"?

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#15 Sep 24, 2012
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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I believe the tax code is a mess, and needs to be thrown out. In order to replace it, there are some things we need to know. Once more, what do you cinsider a "fair share"?
You don't expect a rational response do you?

BTW, IMHO, legal = fair, by "definition". And, "fair" is a very subjective term...

Things only an uneducated, clueless liberal could believe: "I'm not going to let half the country that doesn't pay income taxes be burdened by the other half that doesn't pay their fair share."
torqued

Douglasville, GA

#16 Sep 24, 2012
Bill in Dville wrote:
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BTW, IMHO, legal = fair, by "definition". And, "fair" is a very subjective term...
What a load of crap. Have some coffee and try again.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Destin, FL

#17 Sep 24, 2012
torqued wrote:
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What a load of crap. Have some coffee and try again.
Please, what is your "version" of a "fair share" tax system?
torqued

Douglasville, GA

#18 Sep 24, 2012
Ok. Legal - Jackson measures that led to the trail of tears. Fair? Not by anybodies standards.

To say that legal = fair is insane. Except to a republikkkan.

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#19 Sep 24, 2012
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Please, what is your "version" of a "fair share" tax system?
As I've said before, you're not expecting an intelligent, rational response, are you? If he/she hasn't responded by now...

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An uneducated and clueless voter is a dangerous thing. They tend to vote Liberal…

“I don’t want someone who doesn’t pay ANY federal income taxes voting to determine how much I pay.”

"I'm not going to let half the country that doesn't pay income taxes be burdened by the other half that doesn't pay their fair share."

"Shared prosperity" = Socialism...

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#20 Sep 24, 2012
Wizard of ID Guard:“Shouldn’t voters have to pass an intelligence test?”

Wizard:“You don’t have to be intelligent to vote.”

Guard:“What if there are more stupid people than intelligent people?”

Wizard:“Then the democrat wins.”

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Destin, FL

#21 Sep 24, 2012
torqued wrote:
Ok. Legal - Jackson measures that led to the trail of tears. Fair? Not by anybodies standards.
To say that legal = fair is insane. Except to a republikkkan.
To say you want everyone to pay their "fair share", but not be willing to state what a "fair share" is, that's insane, except to a democrat.

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