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Since: Oct 09

Mableton, GA

#1 Oct 6, 2009
Have you experienced problems with BAF? This yr is almost untolerable as a cheerleading mom! Are the rules (for lack of a better word) the same in all rec leagues?
Proud Former Bill Arp Mom

Duluth, GA

#2 Oct 6, 2009
We did Bill Arp Cheerleading two years ago. I pulled my daughter out after a few weeks. What a bunch of crooks! It was always about money. My little girl was 5 years old and was made fun of my her coach because of her weight.(Please let's not even go there, but a grown woman with thunder thighs doesn't need to be preaching to my 50lb 5 year old). Also it was sooooooooo high school all over again. Guess what, Johnnie and Suzie went steady back in 1995, got married and now he is divorced. So Trisha, Peggy, and Margo who all liked him back in 1995 are going after him full steam ahead. I was one of the older moms who didn't have her baby right after graduation. I just couldn't relate and am very happy that we have moved on. FYI AD Dance Academy is wonderful. They are loving and supportive. Give it a try!

Since: Oct 09

Mableton, GA

#3 Oct 6, 2009
I have not pulled my dtr ...yet...I had no idea that it was all geared to competition. We were hoping for the recreation cheerleading for football games and I don't think the cheer coaches even know the wins and losses of the team. They don't even have practice anymore except competition. Just wondered if that is how it is everywhere! Where is AD Dance Academy? Is it cheerleading or just dance?
Murphi

Douglasville, GA

#4 Oct 6, 2009
I am a football mom at Bill Arp. This will be our first and last year at this park. We have 2 more games left and we just got a schedule last week. No organization! The right hand never knows what the left hand is doing.

Since: Oct 09

Mableton, GA

#5 Oct 6, 2009
I understand! We basically find out the week of if we cheer DI, DII and what time. It is a mess. And to top it all off, my dtr HATES cheering now!
Charles Farley

Duluth, GA

#6 Oct 7, 2009
Just wait till the end of the season when the REAL money grubbers come out. The ones that run the trophy scam will load your little girl down with not 1 small, modest trophy, but she will get like 3 and a medal. The whole thing is a scam designed to siphon money from parents under the guise of creating lifetime memories for our kids. Anyone who stays more than 1 season is either buying the show, part of the show or is willing to push their kids into sports no matter what. Like it or not, most of those kids will not become athletic stars who buy mansions for their parents. Also, have you noticed how many of the folks running that show are dysfunctional? The place is riddled with divorce/custody battles and the occasional affair. Also, just wait till you get to go to one of the other venues like Mt Carmel or Rockmart. Bring your own food and try to look beyond all the "attitude" from the "hosts". CF
Got Sick of it

Carrollton, GA

#7 Oct 7, 2009
We did cheerleading last year for about 1 month. It was our first and last year. We just moved here from Texas. We were transfered with my partners job. My daughter also did the rec squad. We very quickly got to see all the attention (and money)was focused on the competition squad. Also I love how some kids never paid anything and were "sponsored". It's just a shame when you have to explain to your child how some kids don't understand right from wrong and how because the other child envolved is "from a hard home situation" and "you have to be tolerant of others" that it's ok to get your stuff stolen. What ever happened to accountability? Also from talking to other parents that I now know in the community this isn't the first time someone has covered up for things at that park before. Bill Arp...you can have them
PBNJ

Carrollton, GA

#8 Oct 7, 2009
Got Sick of it wrote:
We did cheerleading last year for about 1 month. It was our first and last year. We just moved here from Texas. We were transfered with my partners job. My daughter also did the rec squad. We very quickly got to see all the attention (and money)was focused on the competition squad. Also I love how some kids never paid anything and were "sponsored". It's just a shame when you have to explain to your child how some kids don't understand right from wrong and how because the other child envolved is "from a hard home situation" and "you have to be tolerant of others" that it's ok to get your stuff stolen. What ever happened to accountability? Also from talking to other parents that I now know in the community this isn't the first time someone has covered up for things at that park before. Bill Arp...you can have them
What exactly did they cover up? I think all parks have a history where some parent who had acess to the kids money felt entitled to some or all of it.
The only way a kid would know about who paid and who was "sponsored" is from you running your mouth to other parents. These programs are full of parents who sit on there butts and see what the latest gosip is. Very few actually volunteert with helping the program they just run it in the ground by spreading rumors.
We live in a nation full of unaccountable kids raissed by unaccountable parents. Back in the 80's when one parent said its not my kids fault they turned out bad. Its the music they listen to or the movies they watch or how about its the crowd they run with. Very few parents make their children stand up and face the music now days.

Since: Oct 09

Mableton, GA

#9 Oct 7, 2009
Not sure what was covered up and yes all parks have history. And I have volunteered. I draw the line when the focus became competitive cheerleading instead of recreation football. If you don't already know, it is quite expensive to participate in rec. sports. If your dtr doesn't do competition, you just spent close to $400 for a 1 day camp, apx. 4 - 5 practices and a game on sats!
PBNJ

Carrollton, GA

#10 Oct 8, 2009
livingthedream33 wrote:
Not sure what was covered up and yes all parks have history. And I have volunteered. I draw the line when the focus became competitive cheerleading instead of recreation football. If you don't already know, it is quite expensive to participate in rec. sports. If your dtr doesn't do competition, you just spent close to $400 for a 1 day camp, apx. 4 - 5 practices and a game on sats!
2 practices a week for 9 weeks and 10 games. Most of the money goes for the uniform that she gets to keep is my guess. Who gets the most attention at a football game? The players. Who get all of the attention at a cheer competition? Why do you think its a big deal to do 3 competitions a year?

Since: Oct 09

Mableton, GA

#11 Oct 8, 2009
As I have stated........the girls that DO NOT do competition only practice with the other girls for 4 - 5 wks (until the first game), then all practices are competition only. The rec only girls just show up at a game on Sat, Not really fair to them is it? No she doesn't keep the uniform! They belong to the park and are reused. I don't have a problem with 3 competitions, I have a problem with that being the only thing they practice for. Would cheerleading even exist if there were not football?
fyi

United States

#12 Oct 8, 2009
livingthedream33 wrote:
As I have stated........the girls that DO NOT do competition only practice with the other girls for 4 - 5 wks (until the first game), then all practices are competition only. The rec only girls just show up at a game on Sat, Not really fair to them is it? No she doesn't keep the uniform! They belong to the park and are reused. I don't have a problem with 3 competitions, I have a problem with that being the only thing they practice for. Would cheerleading even exist if there were not football?
Just curious, are you choosing not to do competition or do they select who does competition?

Since: Oct 09

Mableton, GA

#13 Oct 8, 2009
Every girl signed up for rec cheer can do competition
PBNJ

Carrollton, GA

#14 Oct 9, 2009
They have stopped rec practice until after the first competition which is next Sunday.Then after they get the first one under our belt rec practice will be one night a week. They have only stopped rec practices just a few weeks ago. The 11&12 girls will start back their rec practice this week coming up, but all teams have to start back the following week. They have had several practices since the games have started.
Nunya

Atlanta, GA

#15 Oct 9, 2009
Here's what I don't get, why are we told that purchasing various items for our cheerleaders to wear are not mandatory but then we are expected to dress them in those items!
jar

Atlanta, GA

#16 Oct 9, 2009
We played football this week against Bill Arp and I am sooooo glad our son is not playing at Bill Arp. The coach was screaming at our boys and their own boys as well. The kid my son was up against kept calling my son an f'n B. I have never seen a group of more crass and classless group of people. Pathetic!
Must Be Blind

United States

#17 Oct 9, 2009
This is my 2nd year with both of my daughters cheering at Bill Arp and I have never seen any of the problems discussed here. We knew going into it what all we be involved because we ask questions and did research of what would be expected. Our girls love doing it and to be 100% honest with you, as a father I look forward to spending every Saturday at the ball field watching my kids do something that they love.

Now, I will admit that things have seemed a little off this year compared to last, but a lot of that has to do with the new league and the addition of the DII teams which were added to give the kids a better chance to play. Had that not been added, you would have parents complaining because Little Johnny never gets to play. Take it for what it's worth and remember it is about the kids on the field, not the parents in the stand. Often times the attitude of the kids is a direct reflection of the attitude of the parent.
PBNJ

Carrollton, GA

#18 Oct 9, 2009
NObody ever used to complain about Bill Arp until they started winning every year.
Good Grief

United States

#19 Oct 9, 2009
Must Be Blind wrote:
This is my 2nd year with both of my daughters cheering at Bill Arp and I have never seen any of the problems discussed here. We knew going into it what all we be involved because we ask questions and did research of what would be expected. Our girls love doing it and to be 100% honest with you, as a father I look forward to spending every Saturday at the ball field watching my kids do something that they love.
Now, I will admit that things have seemed a little off this year compared to last, but a lot of that has to do with the new league and the addition of the DII teams which were added to give the kids a better chance to play. Had that not been added, you would have parents complaining because Little Johnny never gets to play. Take it for what it's worth and remember it is about the kids on the field, not the parents in the stand. Often times the attitude of the kids is a direct reflection of the attitude of the parent.
AMEN!
BAF Board Member

Atlanta, GA

#20 Oct 9, 2009
I have read all of your comments. I can only say what you should be ashamed. Bill Arp has and will be a classy, winning program for along time. We have great parents and great children. Do you even realize how much things cost a park, we are not given money to run that program. Cheerleading is an expensive sport and all of you parents are told in the beginning how much money and time goes into cheering. These coaches work very hard with no money just volunteering how dare insult all these people who take there time to make a park and program run great. I would love to meet all of in person. Oh and by the way we are all human beings who make mistakes but learn from them. Isn't that what you teach your children. Oh maybe all of you don't make mistakes. If you have a problem with BAF come see the board members we are very helpful.... Oh and to you cheerleading parents please know that what you pay now is NOTHING to if your daughter is going to cheer for Middle or High School, let me tell you those Middle School and or High School will not put up with this. Why can't you just be happy for your children. Everything costs a lot of money these days but to see a child having a great time and happy is worth all of it!!!!

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